Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 I used headphones as a mic so the sound quality was not the best.
AverageJoe Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Ba da bing! You've just verified Pyro's point. There is death, and then there is murder. Not the same.
threebyfate Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 There is death, and then there is murder. Not the same.At least with death there's a finality of pain. With enough emotional trauma, you live with this pain for the rest of your physical existence. Unless you choose not to.
Pyro Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 At least with death there's a finality of pain. With enough emotional trauma, you live with this pain for the rest of your physical existence. Unless you choose not to. Death seems like a better option then choosing to live in that pain if you aren't going to try and better yourself.
threebyfate Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Death seems like a better option then choosing to live in that pain if you aren't going to try and better yourself.Pain is strange. For some, it's all they know so that is what love is. Or the selfish jackasses who cheat, not much caring about collateral damage. In Woggle defending his jackass of a friend, it's confirmation bias to that inner world of pain. It's the place where he's become his mother, feeling strong from giving pain. Bros before da' fictitious enemy. Forgiveness to the bro, as long as he too is jousting alongside of Woggle. "I'm okay, he's okay", rather than the more healthy perspective of "Neither one of us is emotionally okay. We're both pretty messed up and need to support each other in healthy emotional endeavors, rather than feeding off pain.".
InceptorsRule Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I know for a fact that he will never betray me. I'll bet you used to say the same thing about your first wife too.
AverageJoe Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Yeah, that was a bit below the belt. I bet some of you are guilty as well. Yet Woggle, regardless of how you may think of his past posts, some want to tear him apart. Honest answer here. How many of you know a friend that stole stomething? Could be major could be trivial. A thief is a thief, yeah? My brother shoplifted when we were kids. I am now a thief too, based on the logic I have read here.
that girl Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 At least he tries to come here and attempt to figure it all out...Kudos for that. He isn't really attempting to figure things out. He clearly believes the vast majority of women are bad people- he has posted it more than once. I understand why someone would remain friends with someone who knowingly goes after married people, but it is also a sign of how Woggle gives men leeway while considering women to be bad people. Even when a guy does something immoral, Woggle manages to blame it on a woman. Everyone has baggage, but when you start taking it out on other people you lose some sympathy. Every time Woggle posts about women he is taking out his issues on other people. I don't think he would get nearly so much sympathy if he regularly posted racist tirades, but somehow hating women gets him some sympathy here.
AverageJoe Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think he would get nearly so much sympathy if he regularly posted racist tirades, but somehow hating women gets him some sympathy here. Wtf?? Wow.
Mad Max Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Last I checked, Woggle doesn't get sympathy. He regularly gets told to stop bashing women.
Author Woggle Posted September 6, 2010 Author Posted September 6, 2010 I know what I see and I see a lot of women who are just completely and utterly heartless when it comes to men. I realize it is not all but I have seen what the men I know go through. My friend who we are talking about here used to be a loving and faithful man who would not even go to a strip club on a trip because he would not disrespect his gf but she cheated on him and so did the two women after him so right now he just wants to hump them and dump them. I am not promoting this but how much crap can a good men take before he becomes a jerk? He finds that married women are the easiest to get into bed so that is who he goes for. It's sad but he seems happier now than he ever did in a relationship. Maybe if the women he dated would have treated him better he would not be the way he is now. Even if I don't agree with what he does I am not dumping a friend who helped me in my darkest times because I don't stan friends in the back. Him and the guys from the old days were the only family I had for years and I love them even if they screw up sometimes. Even when I admit that maybe all women are not bad and maybe there are women out there who are not like the ones I see in my world I get flack.
that girl Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Last I checked, Woggle doesn't get sympathy. He regularly gets told to stop bashing women. He gets bashed and he gets sympathy. My friend who we are talking about here used to be a loving and faithful man who would not even go to a strip club on a trip because he would not disrespect his gf but she cheated on him and so did the two women after him so right now he just wants to hump them and dump them. I am not promoting this but how much crap can a good men take before he becomes a jerk? Everyone has had bad things happen to them. People of charecter rise above it. If you're going to excuse his actions, then you need to start looking at the women who have been less than kind to you and seeing if they've been treated badly. If they have been, then they deserve a pass to based on your logic. Even when I admit that maybe all women are not bad and maybe there are women out there who are not like the ones I see in my world I get flack. Would you think it was okay for someone to say: "Maybe all men aren't cheaters" "Maybe all blacks aren't criminals" "Maybe all gay men aren't child molestors" You don't deserve a pat on the back for considering the idea that women might not be all bad. It is ignorant, hateful, and misogynistic.
Author Woggle Posted September 6, 2010 Author Posted September 6, 2010 I honestly think if I were a woman posting what I post I would not get a quarter of the flack that I do. It would probably be a mix of support and sympathy. The reason my friends dates married women is because he does not want to hurt and play single women looking for love. He figures cheaters are from innocent anyway so that is who he will mess with. Even in being a player he shows ethics.
Green Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think woggle hates women... he is afraid of them and he struggles with the truth... MOST WOMEN CHEAT... maybe all given the oportunity. Women are very ilogical and have "what have you done for me lately" kind of attitude. My gf said "I'm not your slave when I asked her to get some water for me tonight" men usualy don't say crap like this.... very woman of her. I'm not under any fanciful dilusions of what women are but woggle half sees the truth but mostly strugles in denial with his fear of the truth. Its not about hating women but its also not about being politicaly correct.
AverageJoe Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 To me they would seem easier to get if he's such a "player." Some day, he's going to fhuck with the wrong married woman and her BH will beat your friend to a pulp or end up killing him, or your friend may target your wife. Do you have valued friends? I mean, really valuded friends. Those that you could call up if you needed, and they could call you up for any reason at all. Anything, you would be there. I am unmarried, and I like going out, I like women, I have no desire to bang my buddies wife. None! Why would I? There is no way I would put our life long friendship into jeopardy by going after his wife. Ever! There are too many women out there. The thought of me being intimate with my buddy's wife, my brother(s), is not comprehsensible. Its sickening. Ever had a bond like that? Maybe not by blood, but by brotherhood.
that girl Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think woggle hates women... he is afraid of them and he struggles with the truth... Green you have woman issues too, so it isn't a big shocker than you think Woggle is not a woman hater. You have the same issues.
AverageJoe Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Green you have woman issues too, so it isn't a big shocker than you think Woggle is not a woman hater. You have the same issues. *waves at green* Sir, you are now a member of the KKK.
Shakz Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 The thought of me being intimate with my buddy's wife, my brother(s), is not comprehsensible. Its sickening. Ever had a bond like that? Maybe not by blood, but by brotherhood. Amen. Some people never get have a bond like that, so it would be impossible for them to understand it completely. It's the sort of thing that usually only comes through shared travail or tragedy. My brother's wife is my sister. Simple as that.
Author Woggle Posted September 6, 2010 Author Posted September 6, 2010 My friends and I growing up knew that you never violated the brotherhood so I know he would never sleep with my wife. It's one thing to sleep with some yuppie's wife but stabbing your friends in the back is a big no.
dreamingoftigers Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I don't think woggle hates women... he is afraid of them and he struggles with the truth... MOST WOMEN CHEAT... maybe all given the oportunity. Women are very ilogical and have "what have you done for me lately" kind of attitude. My gf said "I'm not your slave when I asked her to get some water for me tonight" men usualy don't say crap like this.... very woman of her. I'm not under any fanciful dilusions of what women are but woggle half sees the truth but mostly strugles in denial with his fear of the truth. Its not about hating women but its also not about being politicaly correct. I think it is ridiculous to say that MOST women cheat. I would love to know your sources for this. I myself then must be a very valuable commodity. How wonderful As well, I tell my friends point-blank, if you are going to cheat, don't tell me or have me bump into you on the street with your "friend," because I WILL tell your spouse. I find that behaviour absolutely disgusting.
Author Woggle Posted September 6, 2010 Author Posted September 6, 2010 I think it is ridiculous to say that MOST women cheat. I would love to know your sources for this. I myself then must be a very valuable commodity. How wonderful As well, I tell my friends point-blank, if you are going to cheat, don't tell me or have me bump into you on the street with your "friend," because I WILL tell your spouse. I find that behaviour absolutely disgusting. I know it might be hard to believe but women such as yourself are very much appreciated. If only there were more of you than there are.
InceptorsRule Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Totally unfair. Yes what Woggle's first wife did to him was totally unfair. She cheated on him and lied to him. His current "friend" is also a liar and a cheat, and woggle is acting as a wingman for someone who actively seeks to cheat with married female cheaters--people just like his first wife. He justifies his actions by delusionally adhering to the belief that his "friend" who likes to cheat with married women would never ever ever betray Woggle. Sorry Woggle but the personality type of the person who you are acting as wingman for is exactly the type of person who would get a thrill out of taking advantage of a person like you. Because sticking the knife in your back would cause the most possible pain.
dreamingoftigers Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I know it might be hard to believe but women such as yourself are very much appreciated. If only there were more of you than there are. Well I have a few very great friends as well. My best friend just got married to the first guy she was ever with (I have known her since she was 18 as well.) She said from her teen years that she wanted to be with just one man and everyone kind of laughed at her but she actually did it, saved herself until the age of 26. He's a really good guy too, respects her tremendously. Whereas she is an extreme example I know plenty of other good-hearted women, maybe you guys should just tone it down and move to Canada.
Mad Max Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Well I have a few very great friends as well. My best friend just got married to the first guy she was ever with (I have known her since she was 18 as well.) She said from her teen years that she wanted to be with just one man and everyone kind of laughed at her but she actually did it, saved herself until the age of 26. He's a really good guy too, respects her tremendously. Whereas she is an extreme example I know plenty of other good-hearted women, maybe you guys should just tone it down and move to Canada. As a Québecer living in the United States now, I agree.
AverageJoe Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 His current "friend" is also a liar and a cheat, and woggle is acting as a wingman for someone who actively seeks to cheat with married female cheaters--people just like his first wife. He didnt lie to him. He justifies his actions by delusionally adhering to the belief that his "friend" who likes to cheat with married women would never ever ever betray Woggle. Its justified by true friends, one that may do everything you may not approve of as being a married man, yet never violates the trust of a friend. You can throw a brick and bust some windows with it, or you can build a house with it. Either way, is it the bricks fault?
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