Mad Max Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 You still don't get it Woggle. If he's pursuing women he knows are married, he's just as bad. One day, he's going to have sex with the wrong married woman and the husband is going to put a bullet between his eyes. It's happened before.
threebyfate Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Woggle will forever be jousting windmills, himself the tragic hero. In his foundational years, he was badly abused by his mother. So he chose to become his mother since it puts him in his self-perceived position of power. He desperately seeks approval from women which is why he puts up these threads. But his abusive nature can't resist the opportunity to hurt. Pain is love for Woggle.
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 Again he is knowingly having affairs with women who are already committed elsewhere. That makes him an accomplice to cheating. Your friend is not a saint like you make him out to be. Find some friends with more quality. I never said he was a saint but despite his faults he is a good man. I don't forget what he did for me back in the day. I remember that stuff. I even tell him he is playing with fire but it is what it is.
Pyro Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I never said he was a saint but despite his faults he is a good man. I don't forget what he did for me back in the day. I remember that stuff. I even tell him he is playing with fire but it is what it is. and like Mad Max said when he messes with the wrong marriage and ends up six feet under or in the hospital at the least don't come on here crying that he is the victim. He may be a good friend to you but aside from that he is still scum who is a step below the rest of us.
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 I never said he will be a victim. I have warned him of this but he does what he does. People are complicated and I think he snapped a bit after his ex cheated on him.
Pyro Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I never said he will be a victim. I have warned him of this but he does what he does. People are complicated and I think he snapped a bit after his ex cheated on him. so explain to me why you never have this attitude towards a woman who is just like your friend. Why do you make it out to be that women are worse? You excuse your friend but you never would a woman.
InceptorsRule Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I would literally trust this guy with my life so I know he would not betray me like that. I slept on his couch when I was on the verge of homelessness. You have poor judgment in these matters.
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 so explain to me why you never have this attitude towards a woman who is just like your friend. Why do you make it out to be that women are worse? You excuse your friend but you never would a woman. I have no issue with single women who do this. When have you ever seen me have an issue with Lizzie? I think they are fools if they fall in love but they are not the ones who made vows.
AverageJoe Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 You have poor judgment in these matters. If you are referring to woggle, I would have to disagree. This is apparently a life long friend. Aspersions are being thrown his way such as guilt by association. Like that murder analogy. That was ridiculous.
Pyro Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 If you are referring to woggle, I would have to disagree. This is apparently a life long friend. Aspersions are being thrown his way such as guilt by association. Like that murder analogy. That was ridiculous. Care to expalin in a rational sense just how comparing the act of infidelity to the act of murder as both being bad things being ridiculous?
Mary3 Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 He would never try anything my wife. He has been a true friend since day one and I know he would never stab me in the back. I have seen the man in action and he knows how to get the ladies. He also seeks out married women on the internet. He is not as bad as a cheater because he has no obligation to any woman. He is single and if they choose to cheat then that is on them. All this stuff about respecting marriage is bull. The marriage has already been disrespected when she decided to cheat. If it's not him then it's somebody else. In your world : He is as much likely to make a move on your wife as any other man who would try to make a move on your wife. Another what if : What if you had gone out with him and 3 of the 10 married woman walked out the door with him ? Would that have made more sense to you ? The fact that you started a post : That you were SURPRISED that the married women had honor and respect for their husbands and their marriages. Is that like a foreign concept to you ? Is this what you do in your spare time besides ruminate 24/7 about the possibilities of what most women could do ? Why would it concern you ? Why would you want to witness it ? If anything , if you hired a PI to spy on your wife , then I could see you wanting a ring-side seat to see her caught . Because according to you most or all women cheat , will cheat , want to cheat , already have cheated and you just want to get the word out. When does this end for you ? .You also said the other day you dont * need * women. But here you state you need a * guy * . It's in your above post. You don't need your wife but you need your guy friend ? You send alot of mixed messages ...
AverageJoe Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Of course they are bad things but we arent in a court of law here. The gravity of each act in comparison is monumental. There is no death penalty for infidelty, or any type of jail sentence. Murder however, you are detained, locked up and have to prove your innocent in a court of law in front of a judge or jury until a hearing is arraigned. At which point you may find out your fate. As we know murder is a felonious charge. Infidelty might be judged by the court of public opinion and your peers. Or a possible civil trial. You are not looking at the gas chamber. There just isnt a comparison between the two.
Pyro Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Of course they are bad things but we arent in a court of law here. The gravity of each act in comparison is monumental. There is no death penalty for infidelty, or any type of jail sentence. Murder however, you are detained, locked up and have to prove your innocent in a court of law in front of a judge or jury until a hearing is arraigned. At which point you may find out your fate. As we know murder is a felonious charge. Infidelty might be judged by the court of public opinion and your peers. Or a possible civil trial. You are not looking at the gas chamber. There just isnt a comparison between the two. I compared the two on a moral sense. Are you denying that both are on the same level in the moral sense? In the moral sense you can compare the two.
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 I know for a fact that he will never betray me. I am admitting that maybe I am a bit harsh on women and maybe I need to give the good ones some credit so isn't that a step in the right direction? I will not go into yet another dramatic promise that I will give up my bitterness but I will try to not be so negative towards the opposite sex. I will try and that is all I can promise. Chances are I will have more bitter moments though.
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 Hey, just for trivia, cheaters used to be persecuted and/or executed centuries ago, especially if the wives were unfaithful. Just a little fact. But you're right, now in the current law system, it doesn't matter if the wife cheated and made a sex tape about it. The only way is an AOA and most people who file rarely win. Personally, I wish some penalties could be created such as losing full custody or no alimony if you cheated but that may happen in the next 50 years or so. I think that cheating should be considered a betrayal of the marriage contract and if the betrayed party wants to render the entire thing null and void it should be their right.
AverageJoe Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I compared the two on a moral sense. Are you denying that both are on the same level in the moral sense? In the moral sense you can compare the two. If you wanted to discuss morality, that is what you should have said. Not comparing murder to infidelity. Someone smothers their small children to death, then puts them in a car and rolls it off into a lake or river. Someone cheated. Moral equivalent? Thats up to you. Sorry, to get off topic. Carry on.
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 Cheating is wrong but murder is much worse. People can back from being cheated on but they can't come back from being killed.
Pyro Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 If you wanted to discuss morality, that is what you should have said. Not comparing murder to infidelity. Someone smothers their small children to death, then puts them in a car and rolls it off into a lake or river. Someone cheated. Moral equivalent? Thats up to you. Sorry, to get off topic. Carry on. Again I said that they are both bad, but bad is too broad of a word, but now you know what I mean.
threebyfate Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Cheating is wrong but murder is much worse. People can back from being cheated on but they can't come back from being killed.Some can return from emotional damage, others can't. Case in point...
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 Some can return from emotional damage, others can't. Case in point... My issues go way beyond being cheated on.
Mary3 Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Cheating is wrong but murder is much worse. People can back from being cheated on but they can't come back from being killed. But you can't get beyond her ( the ex ) cheating . You are a walking death , waiting for the final kill again. ... I hope someday you can get yourself back , the one before the cheating occured....
threebyfate Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 My issues go way beyond being cheated on.It's all emotional damage. I've stopped waiting for the day you're going to help yourself come back.
Author Woggle Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 If you damage something enough it will die.
threebyfate Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Ba da bing! You've just verified Pyro's point.
Mary3 Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 If you damage something enough it will die. But it didn't have to die . If it were nutured and taken care of , moving forward and getting on with life, freeing itself from the baggage then it could have lived . I think the test of your strength is to be able to move forward , dust yourself off and not let anyone kill your soul. You know on another post you left your voice . It sounded sad and strained.
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