soserious1 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I've gotten to the point where I really don't care if a guy watches porn or hits the strip clubs, I don't even care if he actively pursues and beds other women. Just as long as he doesn't trot out the same old tired lines about it all. LOL, after awhile you just get to a place where you don't really care what they watch or whom they do as long as they don't stand there and hand you a bunch of BS about it as if you're an idiot or something. Link to post Share on other sites
mr.dream merchant Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I've gotten to the point where I really don't care if a guy watches porn or hits the strip clubs, I don't even care if he actively pursues and beds other women. Just as long as he doesn't trot out the same old tired lines about it all. LOL, after awhile you just get to a place where you don't really care what they watch or whom they do as long as they don't stand there and hand you a bunch of BS about it as if you're an idiot or something. Rofl. Well at least you're not out to neuter the male population like JerseyShortie. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Rofl. Well at least you're not out to neuter the male population like JerseyShortie. LOL,I don't particularly care anymore what men say or what or whom they do. I'm no longer willing to place any man as my number one life priority though.. and I'm also no longer willing to enter into any sort of monogamous relationships. Link to post Share on other sites
mr.dream merchant Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 LOL,I don't particularly care anymore what men say or what or whom they do. I'm no longer willing to place any man as my number one life priority though.. and I'm also no longer willing to enter into any sort of monogamous relationships. See, I can respect this. As long as you aren't placing the blame for all of your shortcomings on every pair of dick and balls to walk this Earth, its koo. :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Forgive my parody, given the language of the quote and the language of my parody, I thought you would have picked up on my point. I'll use bright color schemes and pop-up books next time. You're point was to counter it with "women do it too! See See!". Which does nothing to really address the direct issue and working with the opposite sex on it. By the way, I love bright colors and pop-up books. Please do use both items next time. Rofl. Well at least you're not out to neuter the male population like JerseyShortie. Oh Mr. Dream, you seem to forget that alot of your comments seem to want to emotionally neuter women. But that's okay right? Get over yourself. This isn't about neutering anyone. It's about talking about real concerns and problems. But please, keep trying to wow us with your words like "bitches" and "koo". Soserious is a woman that has lost her passion..so perhaps you want women beaten down? Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 See, I can respect this. As long as you aren't placing the blame for all of your shortcomings on every pair of dick and balls to walk this Earth, its koo. :lmao: This might come as a shock to you but whether you can respect my position or not isn't high on my list of concerns. Link to post Share on other sites
mr.dream merchant Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 This might come as a shock to you but whether you can respect my position or not isn't high on my list of concerns. I woudn't expect it to be. I'm just glad you have a healthier outlook on the male gender then some other rather angry posters floating around here. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Women can go to male revue clubs or buy a vibrator or any of that. My wife has done all of that and I truly do not care because we have trust and our relationship is not based on control and trying to mold each other into what we want the other to be. Too many women want to control every aspect of a man's life and this objection to porn and strippers is just one example of it. If it's not that it's going to the game or going out with the guys or my coworker who's wife got so mad over an extra free concert ticket that I could hear her screaming on the other end of the phone from across the room. Some women just like to control every aspect of a man's life. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I woudn't expect it to be. I'm just glad you have a healthier outlook on the male gender then some other rather angry posters floating around here. You haven't really ever read her posts have you? Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 You haven't really ever read her posts have you? And I'm getting pretty sick of you speaking about me as if I were a piece of the furniture. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I woudn't expect it to be. I'm just glad you have a healthier outlook on the male gender then some other rather angry posters floating around here. Here's the piece you aren't getting, my not caring about how much porn men watch,not caring about how many strip clubs they go to and not caring whom they have sex with also comes with a price tag. I'm not willing to give up ANY of my interests,wants or needs to cater to or please a man. I'm also not willing to sit around being sexually faithful. Link to post Share on other sites
Barbarag Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hi: You're girlfriend is right. Stay away from strip clubs. My friend went to them a couple of time, with co workers. He told me. Sometime he would,nt. He would come an visit me an hour away. One night friday. 4/309. Last spoke to him that night 8:10 never forget that time. He got off work called me wanted to come pick me up to spend the weeekend with him. Itold him it was to late to drive an he had to go to work in the morning. I would go when he get offthe the nest day to pick me up. He told me ok, are he would come meet me. Anyway he had to hang up him any other coworkers were ready to go an get something to eat. Last time we spoke. They went get something to eat an went to the strip club. Went back home by 1130:pm. That night they had drink. One was my nephew, him an one of other frind went to bed for work my frind an another worker . Than my friend tolh sosay he needed to go to the store for ciggrettefor work. Ask the guy where were the gate key. Thats the last time they saw him. I really thank he went back to the strip club to meet some one. An he were set up, by female rob an killed. Got rid of his exployer. One wrong desion can take you:re life. He was a good person. He did not know anyone in that town. They only work out their mon throuh fri or sometome on saturday. He is on missing dato. Truck never found. So be careful. It ant worth it. You have all you need to see. You;re girl friend or wife. Link to post Share on other sites
You'reasian Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Women can go to male revue clubs or buy a vibrator or any of that. My wife has done all of that and I truly do not care because we have trust and our relationship is not based on control and trying to mold each other into what we want the other to be. Too many women want to control every aspect of a man's life and this objection to porn and strippers is just one example of it. If it's not that it's going to the game or going out with the guys or my coworker who's wife got so mad over an extra free concert ticket that I could hear her screaming on the other end of the phone from across the room. Some women just like to control every aspect of a man's life. I can agree with this. I have nothing against a gf from using a toy or looking at dudes she thinks are attractive - but for her to turn around and get controlling if I look at attractive females is funny Had a gf drool and go on and on about her favorite actor and I listened and appreciated her sharing - then get super jealous because some smokin' hot waitress was flirting with me lol I was doing absolutely nothing to encourage this waitress - I think it was pheremones or something. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I can agree with this. I have nothing against a gf from using a toy or looking at dudes she thinks are attractive - but for her to turn around and get controlling if I look at attractive females is funny Had a gf drool and go on and on about her favorite actor and I listened and appreciated her sharing - then get super jealous because some smokin' hot waitress was flirting with me lol I was doing absolutely nothing to encourage this waitress - I think it was pheremones or something. LOL,I would have paid the dinner bill,kissed you on the cheek and slipped you a pen,paper and a condom and told you to go for her as I gracefully left the restaurant. Link to post Share on other sites
IrishCarBomb Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 You're point was to counter it with "women do it too! See See!". Which does nothing to really address the direct issue and working with the opposite sex on it. By the way, I love bright colors and pop-up books. Please do use both items next time. Hmm... *starts creating pop-up book about the definition of parody, because clearly the intent was to lampoon your previous statement by making it look ridiculous from a different point of view, not say "Women do it too!!"* Maybe I'll start a new thread about the irony that a textual medium like the intenet has actually decreased literacy, instead of improving it. Link to post Share on other sites
mr.dream merchant Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hmm... *starts creating pop-up book about the definition of parody, because clearly the intent was to lampoon your previous statement by making it look ridiculous from a different point of view, not say "Women do it too!!"* Maybe I'll start a new thread about the irony that a textual medium like the intenet has actually decreased literacy, instead of improved it. Most certainly should. JerseyShortie battles statements with what the statement didn't say. If I'm talking apples, she'll come through and hit me with oranges, bananas, pineapples, and whatever else from the fruit category she can grab. If her and I were talking automobiles, and I said that I like cars, she'd hold a knife to my throat and tell me that I'm not worthy of driving trucks, SUVS, and Vans. Its hilarious when I read it, but kind of sad to. All in all I just battle ridiculousness with equally ridiculous content, or I just ignore it. I usually do the latter. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 "I feel unappreciated" "Your mother always hated me" Life sometimes is a bowl of fruit Link to post Share on other sites
spookie Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Strippers come in all varieties: blondes, brunettes, redheads; girls in leather, girls in white, faux-nurses, faux-schoolgirls; quiet girls, shy girls, drunk girls, airheads, alcoholics, cokeheads; girls who seem smart. It's dumb to pigeon-hole them all into the ghetto trashy semi-hot cliche. Which means that even if you're not the kind of guy who "goes" to strip clubs, even if you think they're funny and kind-of nasty, and you're only there cause it's a night out with the boys and no woman can control you... you will probably find a girl that you like. Even if you weren't looking. And once you're in that corner alone with her on your lap, your hands around her tiny, naked waist... her hair in your face, her smell intoxicating you as much as the alcohol that's just started to kick in... it's not hard for things to get out of control. To lines to be crossed. From my experience... lap dances always go way too far. Granted, some women are fine with their bf dry-humping a naked girl he spent the whole evening talking to in a dark corner to the pulse of loud music. But most aren't. And it's delusional to think that he won't, once he is there. I have rarely seen a man come to a club and get away without buying a lapdance. To each his own, though, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
MissConduct Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 And once you're in that corner alone with her on your lap, your hands around her tiny, naked waist... her hair in your face, her smell intoxicating you as much as the alcohol that's just started to kick in... it's not hard for things to get out of control. To lines to be crossed. From my experience... lap dances always go way too far. Yes, these are my sentiments exactly. I can see how stupid men get when they have a couple of drinks at regular bars, grown adult men turn into complete idiots once they've had a few in them. They say and do the most ridiculous things and if there is a prospect to get laid in the picture even more so, married and taken guys are the worst for this. Now take that same guy (and these are average normal guys) and put him in a dark corner with a naked woman all over him gyrating on his already hard as a rock dick and tell me the guy is not going to cross any lines. Pffft whatever!!! Some of these guys want us to believe the dumbest shet, they must really think women were born yesterday or that we are retarded. If we are supposed to "trust" them going to strip joints they should trust us to be out on platonic dates with other men, after all we can control ourselves too. Being out on dates with other men is fun and harmless and if we promise to only love him, he should be secure enough to realize that going out on platonic dates with other men is just entertainment and a safe way to get variety (as someone else pointed out earlier). Off topic @Spookie, and this I noticed on your thread that you started a few days ago, you have such a way with words. Your posts read like short stories, are you a professional writer by chance? I just love the way you write! In particular the way in which you wrote the OP to your thread about your boss(?) so engaging! Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Y'all are welcome to consider me delusional but I would put some serious money on my man not agreeing to a lap dance or chatting up a stripper, alcohol or not. I would trust him at a strip club without any qualms. On the otherhand, he doesn't go to strip clubs, since the atmosphere turns him off. I could see him going with the boys for a bach party though and there's no way I would emasculate him by putting my foot down on it. You either trust your guy or not and if you don't, why are you with him? Link to post Share on other sites
popey Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I cetainly agree w/ everyone who says that if 2 people are in a relationship, they have to come to a respectful agreement on this issue, or its not going to work. That aside, in general; if you suggest that strip clubs are ok, usually the reasoning is that it is just entertainment, and non-threatening b/c the men are only there to look, and not really connect with the women. IMO, this means, the women are being dehumamnized... just objects. And we have substantial history to show the detrimental psychological effects of any dehumamnization. If anyone really wants to understand the real meaning of this, there is substantial information out there on the subject. All this pontification never seams to bring the studies in. Link to post Share on other sites
mr.dream merchant Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Being on a platonic date with a friend of the opposite sex and going to the strip club are two very different scenarios. Not similar at all. Link to post Share on other sites
MissConduct Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Being on a platonic date with a friend of the opposite sex and going to the strip club are two very different scenarios. Not similar at all. Really? How so? If we follow the reasoning of some men in this thread as to why they go to strip joints how is being out with a guy for a platonic drink any different? Link to post Share on other sites
IrishCarBomb Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Y'all are welcome to consider me delusional but I would put some serious money on my man not agreeing to a lap dance or chatting up a stripper, alcohol or not. I would trust him at a strip club without any qualms. On the otherhand, he doesn't go to strip clubs, since the atmosphere turns him off. I could see him going with the boys for a bach party though and there's no way I would emasculate him by putting my foot down on it. You either trust your guy or not and if you don't, why are you with him? My God!!! A common-sense approach to this?!?!? WHY DO YOU LET YOUR MAN WALK ALL OVER YOU?!?!?!? Edit: RABBLE!!! Link to post Share on other sites
mr.dream merchant Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Really? How so? If we follow the reasoning of some men in this thread as to why they go to strip joints how is being out with a guy for a platonic drink any different? A platonic friend and a stripper are different on a lot of levels. If you can't see that already then I'm not even going to bother explaining. You're grasping for air on this one. Point is, your honest and faithful man wouldn't let it get so far as him being in a dark corner with some stripper all over him, to be honest, he probably wouldn't let her touch him. Give me a break. If that were the case then his lack of self control isn't due to where he's at, its due to him....and his lack of self control lol. He could end up with a broad all over him anywhere. If you're man cheated on you on a night out at a strip club, chances are, he's been cheating on you. A strip club doesn't turn someone into a cheater in 20 minutes. In a dark corner? With a stripper gyrating all over him? These scenarios sound like a common phobia among women the more and more its repeated on this board. Link to post Share on other sites
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