wtf is going on here

[sillyanswer]

The injection is done at a pharmacy.

 

What about the ultrasound?

[beach]

Seems odd - her lies - and the fact that you won't do whatever is necessary to remove a liar and a thief from your own home.

 

 

Predators such as her look for the weak and timid people to prey upon.

 

She's counting on you to do nothing to change it and you are living up to her expectations.

[rester]

OP, have you taken any time since your 4-year relationship to be single and alone and not date? I skimmed through some of your older threads and you seem to be a crazy-magnet. No offense intended, but reading back through it all, I don't know how else to put it.

 

If I'm reading correctly, your girlfriend of 4 years dumped you last November and you were dating other women in December while still sleeping with your ex. Then in February your ex moved in with her new boyfriend after two weeks, was engaged after five weeks, and you were still paying for stuff for her and her daughter and you had a hard time getting her to move the stuff that she left behind at your house:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/second-chances/451230-girlfriend-dumped-me-now-emotional-i-date-other-women

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/general/general-relationship-discussion/461847-am-i-nuts-she

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/breaks-breaking-up/466389-what-do-i-do-psycho-ex

 

You're still not over your ex in March:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/breaks-breaking-up/469602-weird-post-breakup-antics

 

And then you have another situation with a roommate/friend that won't leave your house when you have a date, and in that thread you are a sous chef and not an investment banker:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/471279-chick-talking-monogamy-getting-jealous-after-first-date

 

In June you're still paying for things your ex should have paid for:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/breaks-breaking-up/479694-exes-who-leave-you-debt

 

Also in June you have a pregnancy scare with a women you had been dating and "banging", while she had a boyfriend:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/other-man-woman/482452-i-dont-get-relationship

 

And then in August you meet a woman who practically moved in with you similar to this most recent woman:

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/488026-infuriating-friend-situation

 

You need to slow it down, man! Take some time for yourself. Go for a week-long hike in the forest or something. Stop dating for a good six months at least and enjoy yourself.

[Radu]

Let's not forget that the job is not investment banker anymore.

It's now network specialist [of some kind] because that's how he realized that she was pulling his leg.

[MidwestUSA]

What about the ultrasound?

 

In an uncomplicated medical abortion, I don't believe there is need for an ultrasound. I'm assuming gestational time has already been established prior to the induction, however.

 

 

It IS important to note she can be fertile immediately after the abortion, and needs to be on BC, if OP is still sticking his dick in the cray cray.

[ktya]

Let's not forget that the job is not investment banker anymore.

It's now network specialist [of some kind] because that's how he realized that she was pulling his leg.

 

Lord. Stick to the topic at hand. 1994-1997 I was a sous chef. I hot into investment banking in 1997. I moved to IT for the national bank I worked for in 1999, and in 2001 ran a home based consultancy doing IT for financial professionals (network engineering) . I also did some contract work in financial services during lean times. The 2008 recession nearly killed my business and the ship sank by the end of 2009, so I got back into investment banking full time in 2010, and have been doing that ever since.

 

Enough about that this is a relationship forum not a place where I'm going to post my CV.

 

With respect to the relationship questions I stated in the OP I have aggressively multi dated for about a year. This is the first labeled "girlfriend" I've had since my ex. Because of all the connections (family friends, hometown, mutual friends, etc) I figured this would be a girl who might share my values, and that she had her **** together given that she said she owned two houses and had two jobs (although this is now seemingly very unlikely)

 

On the injection she had received a script from a doctor and the pharmacy said it was the wrong one due to the number of days along she was. The Dr changed the script, she was the surgeon that worked on the hip plate adjustment not a GP or OB /GYN.

[ktya]

In an uncomplicated medical abortion, I don't believe there is need for an ultrasound. I'm assuming gestational time has already been established prior to the induction, however.

 

 

It IS important to note she can be fertile immediately after the abortion, and needs to be on BC, if OP is still sticking his dick in the cray cray.

 

The surgeon did an ultrasound when the pregnancy came up. This mattered to the surgeon because of the damage and plates in the pelvis.

 

I'm not sticking my dick in anything right now because she's bleeding out something fierce. She just did the second suppository medication today, at the Dr office.

[TigerLilly78]

So I got curious and Googled the injection abortion as the OP claims his gf had...apparently its a little more involved then hes leading us onto believe it is done in a clinic or doctors office and not a pharmacy and also yes they do a ultrasound to make sure its not a longer term preg then the women is saying..so again somethings not adding up..

 

 

 

Medical Abortion

 

In Canada in 2004, approximately 3% of reported abortions were done using pharmaceutical drugs.22 Medical abortion is considered successful if complete expulsion of the embryo and placenta occurs without the need for surgery to complete the abortion.

Medical abortion is not commonly recommended in pregnancies past the first 49-63 days because of the increase in incomplete abortion, heavy and prolonged uterine bleeding and ongoing pregnancy past this stage.23 When severe bleeding or pain is present, surgical techniques are used to complete the abortion.24,25

Medical abortion takes longer than surgical abortion, is less effective, and requires more clinic visits. Medical abortion results in heavier, more prolonged bleeding, and more pain, nausea and vomiting than surgical abortion.26 Medical abortion has a 10 fold greater risk of serious infection and death than surgical (suction curettage) abortion.27,28,29

Medical abortion is preferred over surgical abortion by some women because of its effectiveness in early pregnancy, or because it does not require anesthetics or use of surgical instruments. Other women prefer it because it is more private and possibly more accessible, and because it may more closely resemble natural miscarriage.30,31

Most medical abortions involve the use of a combination of drugs that work together to bring about the abortion over a period of a number of days or weeks.

 

 

 

 

from another web site..

 

 

What is the process for having a medical abortion?

 

 

• a detailed medical history is taken
  
• an ultrasound is performed to ensure the pregnancy is not beyond 5 weeks’ gestation
  
• if there are no medical reasons why you should not use this method, you are given Methotrexate by a muscle injection or to drink in liquid form
  
• You are then sent home with Misoprostol tablets
  
• Potential side effects from Methotrexate: nausea, diarrhea, headache, fever and chills
  
• Three to six days after going home, you insert the Misoprostol tablets into your vagina.
  

One-third of women will expel the embryo within 24 hours of inserting the Misoprostol tablets. For some women, it can take as long as three to four weeks. During this time, you will experience cramps and bleed as if you are having a heavy menstrual period or a miscarriage.

A follow up visit is required around seven days after the Methotrexate injection.

How safe and effective is medical abortion?

 

For approximately 5% of women, this procedure will not work and a surgical abortion will be required. Approximately 5% of women choose to have surgical abortions because they feel the medical abortion is taking too long and they do not want to wait any longer. Fewer than 1% of women have complications such as infection or serious bleeding.[ii]

Edited December 3, 2014 by TigerLilly78

[FitChick]

What are the squatting laws in Canada? How long does someone have to live in a home before they can stay indefinitely without a court order? She could be waiting for that date.

 

If you don't own the house, you can just move out yourself.

[Smthn_Like_Olivia]

C'mon!! The surgeon that did the hip surgery did an ultrasound when?? And then HE prescribes her meds to terminate and the pharmacy does the injection?? That's some kinda medical practice where you live.

[ktya]

Surgeons outpatient surgery clinics have all the tools they need for their practice. There is no restriction on any MD prescribing anything except narcotics, for that they need a special form filed with the health authority.

 

You'd be surprised what pharmacists can do. Here they give flu shots, vaccinations, other types of injectable medicines, but only upon prescription by a doctor. This medicine could be taken in orange juice but if nausea is a concern it is injected, with a suppository 1-6 days later.

 

The first injection stops the fetus from growing. The second causes it to expel. Both cause nausea and bleeding, hence the injection option for the first one.

[sillyanswer]

In an uncomplicated medical abortion, I don't believe there is need for an ultrasound. I'm assuming gestational time has already been established prior to the induction, however.

 

I was thinking of it being for the purpose of establishing that gestational time was <7 weeks, which seems to be an important timing in Canada (and seems to be part of the procedure, at least at this reference: https://www.optionsforsexualhealth.org/birth-control-pregnancy/pregnancy/medical-abortion )

 

But, fair enough... if it's not needed then it's not needed.

 

(edit to add: Having caught up on the other posts, I see the surgeon who did something to the hip plates did the ultrasound. )

 

It IS important to note she can be fertile immediately after the abortion, and needs to be on BC, if OP is still sticking his dick in the cray cray.

 

That's a great point.

Edited December 3, 2014 by sillyanswer

[MidwestUSA]

I was thinking of it being for the purpose of establishing that gestational time was <7 weeks, which seems to be an important timing in Canada (and seems to be part of the procedure, at least at this reference: https://www.optionsforsexualhealth.org/birth-control-pregnancy/pregnancy/medical-abortion )

 

But, fair enough... if it's not needed then it's not needed.

 

(edit to add: Having caught up on the other posts, I see the surgeon who did something to the hip plates did the ultrasound. )

 

Well, I did specify I was assuming gestational stage had already been established, prior to the pharmacy visit, not that it wasn't needed, just that it wouldn't be the pharmacy doing it.

 

 

An ortho surgeon performing and interpreting a fetal ultrasound? That I'd have an issue with. I sure wouldn't want my gyne doing the films of my cervical spine.

[sillyanswer]

An ortho surgeon performing and interpreting a fetal ultrasound? That I'd have an issue with. I sure wouldn't want my gyne doing the films of my cervical spine.

 

I can see why that surgeon would be interested, either to avoid complications if this pregnancy existed before the surgery or to ensure that any follow-up advice or treatment or medication can be adjusted as needed because of a pregnancy occurring just after the surgery, but I'm surprised that that is the most appropriate medical professional to be doing the ultrasound. I thought there was more specialisation in the profession, but what do I know.

Edited December 4, 2014 by sillyanswer
added clarity, or just more words

[Smthn_Like_Olivia]

Again...here is why I just can't piece your timeline together... You don't even remember what you've already posted in this thread.

 

On Saturday...

Her big excuse was she needed money for the pills to not go through with having the kid but if they cost what she says is $200 and shes broke why take $160? thats not enough and she was going to need cigarettes and food while I was gone.

 

Plus abortion is free here covered by medical as long as you go to a clinic - I've never heard of straight up going to the pharmacy for this sort of thing even for a pharmaceutical abortion there are clinics the dr can refer you to with counselling and support services and everything is free and confidential.

 

I must admit I have been played like a river its costed me hundreds and hundreds of dollars waiting for this money that will likely never come.

 

Edit: I looked it up. The pills cost $80-$100 and you have to go to a clinic to get them with 2-3 visits. Not a pharmacy. She told me they would cost $200 and wanted me to pay half.

 

How far along did a DOCTOR say she is?

 

Your answer:

Ill never get in front of a doctor with her to talk about this, I'm afraid. I just cant see it happening

 

Posted Sunday:

Early detection pregnancy test works within 10 days.

 

The surgery was an alteration basically a tightening of bolts not very invasive they did it through two incisions on either side with spinal tap.

 

She came here and we had sex that night. Had a period about a week later, then the surgery, Dr said sex was ok as long as it wasn't rough. Had sex after 3-4 days and then a break for about a week after that. Pregnancy test I bought three weeks later. I saw the test.

 

Did not see the period I'm not a sicko going to check for that because like who lies about that. Maybe in hindsight I should have but hardly a way to treat a new girl asking for proof about her period lol that would be insane.

 

Then somehow, only hours later, she's already had an ultrasound by the surgeon who did her hips, a prescription for the injection, and the injection performed by the pharmacy you took her to, without ever needing to visit a clinic?

 

Yes, pharmacies do flu shots. Hell, they have nurses giving out flu shots at my job outside the employee dining room during the cold season. But terminating pregnancies?? Nah...never. Can you see why your story seems to be quite questionable and it sounds like you're just winging it now as you go along?

[ktya]

I have no reason to make this crap up.

 

This is a stressful enough situation as it is. I'm sorry if it comes across a little disjointed from one post to the next. Wouldn't you?

 

Latest is she says she's had enough of me and is leaving tomorrow and breaking up with me. Got home to a long diatribe about how I'm not showing enough affection and how she could never live with me. I tried to pipe in the whole "well you know we did discuss not moving in together having kids or getting married at the outset " but it was of no use. If she's gone tomorrow I'm going to have a big sigh of relief because this is nuts.

 

I didn't even bother when she snapped that she wouldn't take the train all the way here from where she says she's going... I wanted to mention the "car" but it was not even worth it.

 

Sigh. Might be over tomorrow. She may have mixed my tenants all up but I'll deal with that after she's gone and I can speak freely.

[BetrayedH]

I have no reason to make this crap up.

 

This is a stressful enough situation as it is. I'm sorry if it comes across a little disjointed from one post to the next. Wouldn't you?

 

Latest is she says she's had enough of me and is leaving tomorrow and breaking up with me. Got home to a long diatribe about how I'm not showing enough affection and how she could never live with me. I tried to pipe in the whole "well you know we did discuss not moving in together having kids or getting married at the outset " but it was of no use. If she's gone tomorrow I'm going to have a big sigh of relief because this is nuts.

 

I didn't even bother when she snapped that she wouldn't take the train all the way here from where she says she's going... I wanted to mention the "car" but it was not even worth it.

 

Sigh. Might be over tomorrow. She may have mixed my tenants all up but I'll deal with that after she's gone and I can speak freely.

 

Good luck.

[Smthn_Like_Olivia]

I have no reason to make this crap up.

 

This is a stressful enough situation as it is. I'm sorry if it comes across a little disjointed from one post to the next. Wouldn't you?

 

Latest is she says she's had enough of me and is leaving tomorrow and breaking up with me. Got home to a long diatribe about how I'm not showing enough affection and how she could never live with me. I tried to pipe in the whole "well you know we did discuss not moving in together having kids or getting married at the outset " but it was of no use. If she's gone tomorrow I'm going to have a big sigh of relief because this is nuts.

 

I didn't even bother when she snapped that she wouldn't take the train all the way here from where she says she's going... I wanted to mention the "car" but it was not even worth it.

 

Sigh. Might be over tomorrow. She may have mixed my tenants all up but I'll deal with that after she's gone and I can speak freely.

 

If she leaves, you've lucked out. But if she does, I imagine she is simply only moving on because she's found someone else to leech off of.

[sillyanswer]

Latest is she says she's had enough of me and is leaving tomorrow and breaking up with me.

 

She's breaking up with you? I'm sure it should be the other way around but sometimes you have to pick your battles. Let's hope she doesn't change her mind.

[beach]

Don't say a word between now and when she goes.

 

Just lay low and don't be too nice to her that she decides to change her mind.

 

Be ready to change those locks the minute she leaves!

[eye of the storm]

Why do you have to wait till she leaves to fill your roommates in.

 

This is why you are such an easy target. Someone has basically moved in without permission, searched your computer, stolen money, made your life a hell, refused to leave...and you are worried about hurting her feelings by talking to your roommates in front of her.

 

smh

[Toodaloo]

I have no reason to make this crap up.

 

This is a stressful enough situation as it is. I'm sorry if it comes across a little disjointed from one post to the next. Wouldn't you?

 

Latest is she says she's had enough of me and is leaving tomorrow and breaking up with me. Got home to a long diatribe about how I'm not showing enough affection and how she could never live with me. I tried to pipe in the whole "well you know we did discuss not moving in together having kids or getting married at the outset " but it was of no use. If she's gone tomorrow I'm going to have a big sigh of relief because this is nuts.

 

I didn't even bother when she snapped that she wouldn't take the train all the way here from where she says she's going... I wanted to mention the "car" but it was not even worth it.

 

Sigh. Might be over tomorrow. She may have mixed my tenants all up but I'll deal with that after she's gone and I can speak freely.

 

Thank God.

 

Good Luck.

 

I suspect that the reason why all of this is so dis-jointed is that you are being pulled about by this con woman. One minute this the next that...

 

Very good reason why its better to keep life simple...

[Els]

Well at least she's leaving. Hopefully.

 

I do hope that you've learnt your lesson from this fiasco and we won't be reading the same thing for the n-th time a month from now.

[ktya]

Thank God.

 

Good Luck.

 

I suspect that the reason why all of this is so dis-jointed is that you are being pulled about by this con woman. One minute this the next that...

 

Very good reason why its better to keep life simple...

 

Totally. Not having the baby then wants to have the baby then not having the baby. Having money then getting money then its coming tomorrow then a couple more days then will have even more money then isnt sure if she wants to give that much becuase im being a jerk then im a nice guy and she loves me and then im no good and shes leaving then she needs me and im not there then she is pissy and doesnt want to deal with me and just wants to be alone.

 

Ugh. Fawk get me off this crazy train.

 

I am going to keep it simple. Im going to get my financial sh*t together after this whole expensive mess and go back to multi dating and just banging chicks. I was having so much fun and i could talk to whoever i wanted i got my alone time and there was nobody bitching at me that my staff party was staff only and no spouses.

 

I figured after a year of casually dating i was getting ready to have a girlfriend and lock into just one, keep it light and dont move too fast she has her house and i have mine and we both have our own money.

 

I really went through all of the initial discussions with this one and she passed all the initial tests. She had two jobs. Had her own place. Lots of mutual friends, her story checked out with mutual and family friends. Came from my hometown. Not married. No young kids so no baby daddy issues. Unable to get pregnant.

 

Two weeks later i have a pregnant homeless girlfriend with no money and no job who is camped out at my house and wont even leave me for 24 hours to my house alone despite my at times demanding it, and im stuck between a rock and a hard place between kicking a pregnant or miscarrying woman out virtually onto the street and gritting my teeth and baring with it.

 

I thought id commit because some emotional support would be nice and i thought i found a like minded woman. I still get more emotional support from the filipina who has a boyfriend than i did out of this.

 

Back to multi dating. Diversification is key im learning. When this is all over youll probably see me back in the dating forum.

 

Yarg. Ill post back if the situation twists to the left.

[Toodaloo]

How about learning to act on red flags so you don't end up with a psycho again? Not all single women are like that... be single for a while so you can regroup and learn that not all women are crazy.

 

Multi dating is a sure fire way to complicate things...