txsilkysmoothe Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 How much extra weight could she have if her clothing hid it? Even dressed you can tell if a woman is slender or not. OP, you must be talking about her tummy only. Seriously, that one part of the body is going to make a difference? Personally, I would prefer a man verbalize his dissatisfaction with my body before we have sex - even if it's "immediately" before. Once she learns how you really feel, she will most likely regret having had sex with you. Poor thing. She obviously is self conscious about her body or she wouldn't feel the need to inform you she will be having a tummy tuck. How does that even come up in conversation? You are the wrong guy for her.
Horse41 Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 No, people (both men and women) are lazy. It is VERY easy to be in shape. It's also fairly easy to have a chiseled body but I of course don't expect the women I date to have anywhere near that type of body. Your attitude toward women is nothing short of disgusting.
electricity Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 This reminds me of a recent thread on reddit about bodies:
OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 You've stated it yourself; you want an AVERAGE girl and yet you are here, stating that an AVERAGE girl is beneath you. Yep, I think you are contradicting yourself. You don't want AVERAGE -- you want what you think is "normal" and is not. I'm not blaming you; men are subjected to the plastic surgery girls in porn and in magazines and think it is an ideal when it is not. Yes, Carhill is right and America has an obesity epidemic. That is not the issue in your statement, OpenGL. It is you and all the other guys who want an ideal and are forcing girls into bulimia and anorexia in their attempts to gain an ideal that is not attainable. So you're saying I should be perfectly happy dating a girl 3 inches shorter and 25lbs heavier? What does plastic surgery and porn have anything to do with it? I don't like girls with plastic surgery and fake tits, and normals girls don't have either. What does bulimia and anorexia have to do with having a normal height/weight proportion? Were girls 30 years ago anorexic? Do you consider a girl that is 5'4 130lbs anorexic? I still am not seeing any contradictions to my statement. Models aren't normal height and normal weight. Porn stars and actresses aren't normal height and normal weight. I'm perfectly happy with 5'0 to 5'4 range, 120-135lbs. Models are 5'10 95lbs.
OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 You could probably stand to gain a little weight... I could use a bit more bulk, but trust me you wouldn't say that if you saw my arms. I was considering posting a pic last night but I dropped the idea. Maybe I should reconsider.
OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 How much extra weight could she have if her clothing hid it? Even dressed you can tell if a woman is slender or not. OP, you must be talking about her tummy only. Seriously, that one part of the body is going to make a difference? Personally, I would prefer a man verbalize his dissatisfaction with my body before we have sex - even if it's "immediately" before. Once she learns how you really feel, she will most likely regret having had sex with you. Poor thing. She obviously is self conscious about her body or she wouldn't feel the need to inform you she will be having a tummy tuck. How does that even come up in conversation? You are the wrong guy for her. Nah I have to back the OP up, i've seen girls hide 20lbs through their clothes easy. Some girls have a pretty skinny face but blubber arms, blubber legs and a pudgy stomach.
sally4sara Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Rubbish. I never said it was OK to string this girl along, Sally. Read above before you put words in my mouth. I am referring to earlier posts where people were bashing this guy in particular in this thread for being shallow. Hell, even JS and I agree that he can have body preference but shouldn't string her along. Do I think the guy is an ass for having preference? No. But others here do and did judge him for it, read the posts. On the note of him stringing her along, like I said, he shouldn't do it, but, he will anyway. I looked at earlier posts. I did not see anyone bashing his preferences. The closest that got was the question of how he can claim no attraction, but still have sex with her. Beyond that, the posts were about his using her. I think what you're speaking of is where it strays from the topic of this guy and the girl he is seeing, to the argument of what standard of beauty a woman should be expected to achieve. And this is very off topic because that standard varies from one opinion to the other. Someone pointed out the difference between standards and preferences. We are still left with THIS guy's preference, it not being met, and his continued use of THIS girl despite her not being his preference. She is very likely SOMEONE's preference so the back and forth between posters about standards in general is a separate topic. It still comes down to how justified this guy is in complaining about her body type when he has already defined his preference and it isn't her. He should have stuck to his preference and not taken up time she could be spending with someone who prefers her body type. By continuing with her, he is setting his preference as her standard without having the guts to let her in on it. Even if she were inclined to try to meet it, she has no idea to make that decision. It would be the same if say, I were not big enough for some guy and he strung me along never letting me know.
OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Your attitude toward women is nothing short of disgusting. I said both men and women can be lazy fat asses not taking care of their body but my attitude towards women are disgusting?
USMCHokie Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 I could use a bit more bulk, but trust me you wouldn't say that if you saw my arms. I was considering posting a pic last night but I dropped the idea. Maybe I should reconsider. Bring it.
CarrieT Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 So you're saying I should be perfectly happy dating a girl 3 inches shorter and 25lbs heavier? If you are going to continue your tirade about not being able to get a date and that average girls ignoring average guys, then YES, I think you should be perferctly happy dating a girl who is 3" shorter and 25lbs heavier because THAT IS AVERAGE. And if you do not want that kind of girl, than that is fine, but don't complain about not being able to get a date.
txsilkysmoothe Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 I could use a bit more bulk, but trust me you wouldn't say that if you saw my arms. I was considering posting a pic last night but I dropped the idea. Maybe I should reconsider. Completely nude because clothes hide alot.
USMCHokie Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Completely nude because clothes hide alot. Of course, just as OP has already pointed out.
silic0ntoad Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 On the note of pics of average guys, my avatar is a pic of me, I consider myself average. So yeah, I am average guy.
Horse41 Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 I said both men and women can be lazy fat asses not taking care of their body but my attitude towards women are disgusting? Yes. Look back on the rest of your posts in this thread.
dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 If you have seriously lost a pound a day, you need to be REALLY careful! That sounds incredibly unhealthy and way too fast. Two pounds a week should be the max -- if this is true, you are setting yourself up for gallbladder failure. And at the end of that summer they had to pull out my gallbladder.
donnamaybe Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Thank you for justifying all my points. I said, I don't disagree he shouldn't string her along. But it's downright stupid to say "Love her for who she is." Ok, let's be a little more tolerant of obesity. You seriously think she's "obese" when he couldn't even tell he might not like her body until the clothes came off? PuhLEEEZ!
CarrieT Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 And at the end of that summer they had to pull out my gallbladder. That is what I suspected; I can't tell you how many of my overweight girlfriends try to lose it FAST and all have their gallbladders fail on them. Heck, look at the actor Raul Julia who lost his life by trying to lose a lot of weight fast for an role...
silic0ntoad Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 You seriously think she's "obese" when he couldn't even tell he might not like her body until the clothes came off? PuhLEEEZ! Well, I mean, it's possible. I'd have to see pics. And donna, where have you been to argue with me? I do miss you, you know. My black heart broke a little in your absence.
donnamaybe Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Well, I mean, it's possible. I'd have to see pics. And donna, where have you been to argue with me? I do miss you, you know. My black heart broke a little in your absence. It depends on the level of the ridiculous to which the subject rises whether I will engage or not. I bet I could pinken up that black heart pronto.
silic0ntoad Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 It depends on the level of the ridiculous to which the subject rises whether I will engage or not. I bet I could pinken up that black heart pronto. Woah, woah now, IDK about all that... It'd take alot of cleanup effort... mine's worse then the opil spill in the gulf... But either way, I did keep a positive outlook, and now have a gf... Despite all my ramblings here, you helped me keep that positive attitude (And use the forums to vent the negative) so a big hug and thank you from me to you hun.
dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 I would have the same stance with this guy if he was upset that the girl was a smoker. Let's jut say the first two dates he doesn't notice she is a smoker, or the date is so short that she doesn't "need to go out" for one. (In quotations because no one "needs" a smoke.) Then the third date he finds out she is a smoker and it disgusts him, he doesn't want to pursue a relationship with a smoker, finds it unhealthy, unattractive etc. Yet he goes to bed with her anyways and posts up a thread about "falling for a smoker " I would say that he is leading her on and that is not fair, she has the choice to smoke of not smoke without someone playing with her heart that way, regardless of how she has treated herself.
donnamaybe Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Woah, woah now, IDK about all that... It'd take alot of cleanup effort... mine's worse then the opil spill in the gulf... But either way, I did keep a positive outlook, and now have a gf... Despite all my ramblings here, you helped me keep that positive attitude (And use the forums to vent the negative) so a big hug and thank you from me to you hun. I'm SO happy for you (and your girl)!!! I hope I wasn't too hard on you. I can be kind of a _____ at times...
silic0ntoad Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 I'm SO happy for you (and your girl)!!! I hope I wasn't too hard on you. I can be kind of a _____ at times... No, you kept it in perspective and reminded me that ultimately it is I who have control of my relationship status, not some evil female overlord who dominates women with men hating tendancies. Thanks hun Oh, and you know I can be an ass sometimes, so we're even
Chicago_Guy Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 I started going out with this woman, very pretty face, recent boob job, but she isn't very slim ... defintely can't wear a bikini, she says she's getting a tummy tuck later this year... uggh, but everything is else is fine with her, partying, we click, sex is good... but not the slim type ... WTF.... anyone in that situation? I could just dump her... but we do have a good time together... It sounds like she has body image issues if she has already had a boob job and is going to get a tummy tuck soon.
donnamaybe Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 No, you kept it in perspective and reminded me that ultimately it is I who have control of my relationship status Good. I hope that's the message I'm putting out there. ...not some evil female overlord who dominates women with men hating tendancies. They are out there, you know, and some women even LISTEN to them! You just have to learn how to weed out the crazies. Thanks hun Oh, and you know I can be an ass sometimes, so we're even Awwww, you're very sweet. But I won't blow your image.
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