mrldii Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I like you! Is Lena Dunham a feminist? I've never heard of her. I Googled her and came across a whole bunch of entries (most dealing with her latest book); I liked what she had to say in this one video clip off YouTube... "Questionable Feminist?" I would have liked it better if she said "EVERYone" is allowed to make their own clothing choices...instead of "women are allowed", but hey, whatever. I'm still deciding if I like you or not. I thought about sending you the bill for my monitor for this one: I don't believe you would be the type to reject me. I am quite addictive in person. ... but then I remembered I'M responsible for my own choices, so I could have chosen not to laugh. Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How did you know? Tall, blonde, green eyes, huge fake boobs. Yeah I've seen plenty on the internet. They write blogs and make vidoes, post on forums. Lol It's always an attractive white girl from the burbs, whining about oppression and bitching about every little Nik nak thing that bothers them. Link to post Share on other sites
Her Bridges Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I love all those ideas. Especially target shooting. I bought an AR15 last year and have not had the opportunity to try it out. Nice. I've the opportunity to shoot several interesting guns, including Uzi, AK47, and some oddball Soviet ones that I don't even remember the caliber of. Still always loved going back to a basic .22 rifle with a good scope for some long distance target practice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Equality is impossible. Men and women are not equal, and will never be. Social, political and economic equivalence is something to strive for if you ask me, but equality? Not a chance. Too many differences in the genders themselves. If you'd want social equality for men and women you'd have women engage in as many bar fights as men and you'd have men opt to become nurses as often as women. Not a chance. You're mixing up "equality" with "sameness"; they are NOT synonyms. More men are becoming nurses; it's one of the contributing factors to why nurses' salaries, overall, are on the rise. True "social equality" requires women getting into as many bar fights as men? Why does "equality" to some, mean that men and women should lower themselves to a same level? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kilgore Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 LOL not at all. Simply that you can "do nice things for the sake of doing nice things" that don't involve buying someone dinner. agreed. especially if you hit it off with the person - reciprocity kind of comes naturally Link to post Share on other sites
kilgore Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nice. I've the opportunity to shoot several interesting guns, including Uzi, AK47, and some oddball Soviet ones that I don't even remember the caliber of. Still always loved going back to a basic .22 rifle with a good scope for some long distance target practice. crap. i think i would be terrified to fire a gun. Link to post Share on other sites
joseb Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I would have liked it better if she said "EVERYone" is allowed to make their own clothing choices...instead of "women are allowed", but hey, whatever. You don't sound like a feminazi. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Women actually get into as many bar fights as men. They certainly did when I was in Jersey. One place hired a separate female bouncer so she could toss them out when it got out of hand. Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Women actually get into as many bar fights as men. They certainly did when I was in Jersey. One place hired a separate female bouncer so she could toss them out when it got out of hand. It gets really bad when you take men outta the picture and you have nothing but women alone in a room with no men. They start trying to kill each other. Lol Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 You don't sound like a feminazi. That's because I'm NOT a "feminazi"...I'm a "feminist". The only time I've been called a "feminazi" is by men who recognize I'm not a "traditionalist" and have a limited vocabulary. Link to post Share on other sites
kilgore Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's because I'm NOT a "feminazi"...I'm a "feminist". The only time I've been called a "feminazi" is by men who recognize I'm not a "traditionalist" and have a limited vocabulary. i don't see why you have to defend yourself for being a feminist. why the nazi part? kinda don't get it Link to post Share on other sites
Versacehottie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yeah, Yeah... I think we all get the how and why of guys paying for dates. I think you are ignoring the most important question. What should be expected of women? Hmmm, good question. I think it's good to pay a few dates in since guys are obviously worried about golddiggers or getting into something they can't afford. A lot of guys like to keep the ground purposefully unstable so you don't necessarily feel comfortable suggesting it up front only paying for it as a surprise on the date. So the guy still has to want to go (thinking he will be paying). I think since it's a far more grey area expectations of women paying is a lot more varied responses. I think the more obvious it becomes that you are dating for real and the guy isn't going to disappear, the girl paying as well just evolves. I also think it's typical that a girl will buy the guy some gifts or cook him some elaborate thing at her place (same price as going out in other words). On the spectrum, my experiences match those guys that feel fine paying as it's part of how they prefer to date. So I don't think they expect anything, it's a nice and well received surprise though and I think they like it because it alleviates any doubts they had about being used. A lot of times they accept 1 out of 3 or 5 because they still want to be gentlemen--but that's just my experience because there is a cluster of traits that surrounds this behavior that is what I'm attracted to. Doesn't mean every guy is like this and I'm sure some do have more specific expectations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Women actually get into as many bar fights as men. They certainly did when I was in Jersey. One place hired a separate female bouncer so she could toss them out when it got out of hand. Oh, well, then...if that's the way it is in Jersey, then that's enough to convince me that "women get into as many bar fights as men", even given the vast number of societies where women aren't allowed out in public without an escort, let alone allowed in a bar. Link to post Share on other sites
SawtoothMars Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I've never heard of her. I Googled her and came across a whole bunch of entries (most dealing with her latest book); I liked what she had to say in this one video clip off YouTube... "Questionable Feminist?" I would have liked it better if she said "EVERYone" is allowed to make their own clothing choices...instead of "women are allowed", but hey, whatever. I had to google her too. I haven't decided whether it makes me feel old or out of touch. I think you instantly nailed what drives me up the wall about most of those who claim to be feminists. They don't care about people... instead they only care about women. Additionally they believe in equality of outcome, not in equality of treatment. My belief is that women and men should be free to do whatever they choose. Thus a stay at home mom is no better or worse than a career woman. I'm still deciding if I like you or not. I'm not worried! I will grow on you like a foot fungus, except better looking! ... but sometimes just as irritating. I thought about sending you the bill for my monitor for this one: but then I remembered I'M responsible for my own choices, so I could have chosen not to laugh. Maybe I didn't intend that to be funny. That hurts, but I won't blame you for the tears flooding my laptop. Link to post Share on other sites
kilgore Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Oh, well, then...if that's the way it is in Jersey, then that's enough to convince me that "women get into as many bar fights as men", even given the vast number of societies where women aren't allowed out in public without an escort, let alone allowed in a bar. as a dude, i don't think i have ever been into a bar fight and would be happy to keep that store alive forever Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Oh, well, then...if that's the way it is in Jersey, then that's enough to convince me that "women get into as many bar fights as men", even given the vast number of societies where women aren't allowed out in public without an escort, let alone allowed in a bar. Are you from Saudi Arabia? Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 i don't see why you have to defend yourself for being a feminist. why the nazi part? kinda don't get it That's because you only just signed up on this site...and you've only just made your sixth post, here. When you travel around the site a little more, you'll understand why some [women] "defend" themselves when it comes to the "feminazi" label. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Her Bridges Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Equality is impossible. Men and women are not equal, and will never be. Social, political and economic equivalence is something to strive for if you ask me, but equality? Not a chance. Too many differences in the genders themselves. If you'd want social equality for men and women you'd have women engage in as many bar fights as men and you'd have men opt to become nurses as often as women. Not a chance. Not quite what people want by "equality." I am an engineer. I went through the same college education, passed the same licensing test, and do the same work as everyone else in my office, yes somehow am the lowest paid... including those I have seniority over! If I do the same work, am just as efficient, and have just as much experience, then why am I getting paid less? Yes there is a disproportionate amount of men compared to women in my field (I'm one of three in my team of eight, but the average in the office and throughout the field is more like 1:5) so it's possible to say the trend is skewed, BUT in the end, it's just plain messed up that the new hire fresh out of college gets $2 and hour more than me... He gets paid more than me, but still less than the men who have more seniority than I. Seriously, they value the kid who isn't going to even be useful for at least 6 months while he gets trained, MORE than the young woman who has taken the initiative to streamline their system and who has proved her worth throughout the dozen projects she's designed by now? THAT'S one of the things women get pissed off about when they get told they're not equal. /endrant 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kilgore Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Not quite what people want by "equality." I am an engineer. I went through the same college education, passed the same licensing test, and do the same work as everyone else in my office, yes somehow am the lowest paid... including those I have seniority over! If I do the same work, am just as efficient, and have just as much experience, then why am I getting paid less? Yes there is a disproportionate amount of men compared to women in my field (I'm one of three in my team of eight, but the average in the office and throughout the field is more like 1:5) so it's possible to say the trend is skewed, BUT in the end, it's just plain messed up that the new hire fresh out of college gets $2 and hour more than me... He gets paid more than me, but still less than the men who have more seniority than I. Seriously, they value the kid who isn't going to even be useful for at least 6 months while he gets trained, MORE than the young woman who has taken the initiative to streamline their system and who has proved her worth throughout the dozen projects she's designed by now? THAT'S one of the things women get pissed off about when they get told they're not equal. /endrant and you can fire a gun. you are more equal than me Link to post Share on other sites
kilgore Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's because you only just signed up on this site...and you've only just made your sixth post, here. When you travel around the site a little more, you'll understand why some [women] "defend" themselves when it comes to the "feminazi" label. maybe i will travel carefully now i have 9 posts... Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 It gets really bad when you take men outta the picture and you have nothing but women alone in a room with no men. They start trying to kill each other. Lol Wait a minute. I'M a woman; I've been alone a LOT of times in rooms with women where there are no men. I have never tried to kill someone - nor has a woman tried to kill me. Seriously. You believe that whenever women go to a restroom - whether it be at a bar, at work, or at the gym - we try to kill one another? Someone's been watching too many girl-prison flicks. Silly boy. We don't try to kill one another when we're out of sight of you men...we'd break a nail or get a fat lip or sumpin'-sumpin'... ...and that would interfere with our Thursday night bra-and-panties pillow fights. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kilgore Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Wait a minute. I'M a woman; I've been alone a LOT of times in rooms with women where there are no men. I have never tried to kill someone - nor has a woman tried to kill me. Seriously. You believe that whenever women go to a restroom - whether it be at a bar, at work, or at the gym - we try to kill one another? Someone's been watching too many girl-prison flicks. Silly boy. We don't try to kill one another when we're out of sight of you men...we'd break a nail or get a fat lip or sumpin'-sumpin'... ...and that would interfere with our Thursday night bra-and-panties pillow fights. i knew the pillow fights were a real thing Link to post Share on other sites
HereNorThere Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nobody wants a doormat. Guys want to marry a woman they can respect. I think what you find is that most of the men dislike being in a situation where 90% of the time they have to pay to get rejected. I asked before what is expected of women in exchange. I honestly can't think of anything in particular. I'll be honest - I'm completely taken back this. Buying someone dinner obligates them to do something for you? My friend Steve bought me dinner the other night, was I supposed to give him a quick reach around afterwards? Life isn't fair sometimes. Women get dinners bought for them, but I can pee standing up and I don't have to go through periods or endure pregnancy for 9 months. Those are just the breaks, man. I've never once thought to myself that anyone was ever obligated to speak with me again just because I swiped my card. I mean, I applaud your honesty, I just didn't realize that people really thought of it like this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Versacehottie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I don't wanna go for coffee or ice cream, that's boring. I wanna go do something fun like food, drinks and mini golf, spend way more than I need to, then get on here and complain about it. Well don't undersell it. If a guy is overspending, it's uncomfortable especially if you can estimate that it's too much for him. And your date might not want to offer to pitch in because she doesn't want to emasculate or embarrass you like you can't afford it. Some of the best dates I have been on didn't cost much at all. You both have the power to make it fun. And yes a girl should be very expected to contribute to being fun and appreciative of whatever is offered! I always have been. I have been on $1000+ dates (great guys but something wasn't just there) that were so-so because ultimately it is about the connection. Or one mid-priced dates where I wish the guy had just saved his money because he was trying to impress with $$$$ and acting like he was doing me a big favor and it really wasn't all that (same as a cheap guy he was think in terms of dollars spent and that is not the point). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Her Bridges Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 and you can fire a gun. you are more equal than me Lol, we're all equal, we just each have our particular specialties. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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