USMCHokie Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 I just saw this funny little article that was basically a satire on beauty standards set by society for women...but turned around on men...in a "Gynocracy"...the premise: what if men had to conform to beauty standards set by women? http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/19/man-up.html It made me .
jamesum Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Honestly most of the beauty 'rules' that women set for themselves do not matter to me in the first place. I dont even like women with make up. The only thing women need to wear on their face for me is eye liner. Thats it.
Feelin Frisky Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 It's makes the writer look like a sexist pigeon-holer. I for one am attracted mostly to women who look beautiful to me with slight or no make up. That's not to say I like Tom boys or dikes but I' happy not every women looks like a clone out of Cosmopolitan Magazine. This dude seems to assume that's what women universally are.
Lady vs Panda Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Then women would pay for your dinner, sweet thing.
TheLoneSock Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 I just saw this funny little article that was basically a satire on beauty standards set by society for women...but turned around on men...in a "Gynocracy"...the premise: what if men had to conform to beauty standards set by women? http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/19/man-up.html It made me . Lol, this article lost me here: "It would be a place where ugly men would have a hard time getting a date or a promotion," Ugly men do have a hard time getting a date and it has been proven that being good looking correlates with income.
gypsy_nicky Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Honestly most of the beauty 'rules' that women set for themselves do not matter to me in the first place. I dont even like women with make up. The only thing women need to wear on their face for me is eye liner. Thats it. I agree and would say that most women look very different w/out it put on (sometimes a bad thing).
espec10001 Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Natural beauty without any makeup or alteration is the best imo. But since females seem to change their hair color, they're makeup color, even their eye color more than I can keep track of, who really knows what "natural" means anymore
Author USMCHokie Posted July 20, 2010 Author Posted July 20, 2010 It's makes the writer look like a sexist pigeon-holer. I for one am attracted mostly to women who look beautiful to me with slight or no make up. That's not to say I like Tom boys or dikes but I' happy not every women looks like a clone out of Cosmopolitan Magazine. This dude seems to assume that's what women universally are. Actually, the author is a female...or at least the name is female... But I feel that the author is blaming the male gender for these "rules" they must abide by to succeed in society while many of these so-called standards are actually propogated by women themselves...
phineas Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Natural beauty without any makeup or alteration is the best imo. But since females seem to change their hair color, they're makeup color, even their eye color more than I can keep track of, who really knows what "natural" means anymore This is my type of girl. I can't stand women that spend forever getting ready.
zengirl Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Honestly most of the beauty 'rules' that women set for themselves do not matter to me in the first place. I dont even like women with make up. The only thing women need to wear on their face for me is eye liner. Thats it. 1.) Eyeliner IS makeup. 2.) It's one of the most annoying and complex kinds of make-up. . . someone who is good at putting on eyeliner can apply just about any other kind of make-up with ease; it's one of the only kinds that takes skill/practice/time. 3.) Most men who say they don't like women with make-up just mean they don't like it when they know women are wearing make-up (i.e. it's obvious or, even if it looks natural, it rubs off on the guy's collar or whatnot). What they really mean is they want women who are as pretty as they are with make-up without wearing make-up. I say this as someone who wears very little makeup and generally does fine without it. I used to, in college, but now I wear a light foundation that's mixed with my moisturizer and maybe some lipgloss. (Eye make-up only at night/going out occasions and rarely.) I'm not a great defender of make-up, but most of my male friends are constantly saying they don't like make-up yet when someone who is not naturally "their type/pretty" looks a lot better with make-up, they suddenly wonder, "What's so different?" It's silliness.
Woggle Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Women seem to think I am good looking so in this world I could just use those looks to get free meals and be supportred. It sounds good to me.
electricity Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Men can say they prefer women without makeup, but I wonder if they realize the beauty rituals women still have to undergo in order to look good without makeup. Things like shaving and an armful of skin-care products, hair-care products, etc. aren't generally classified as "make-up", but take a lot of time and money as well. Even if he says, "She looks best in a ponytail," she still has to spend effort in making sure her hair is silky, healthy, and split-end free so it looks good in a ponytail.
TaraMaiden Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 men don't necessarily "follow" anything..... once, they led the way.....
carhill Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 IDK, stbx is a stylist and she could go from bed to full throttle in under an hour; hair, makeup, the works. She did get eyeliner tattooed which speeds things up a bit, I guess. I'm still using up all the unisex care products she left behind over a year ago. We had separate bathrooms since I had my own pre-flight procedures. Living in grease every day, I like to put on the dog for 'going out'. In that regard, though obviously not in others, we were well matched. I like to look my best and dress well because I enjoy it. It certainly hasn't been because of any female attention as an impetus. That gallery is populated by crickets. We get along great
Phateless Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 I just saw this funny little article that was basically a satire on beauty standards set by society for women...but turned around on men...in a "Gynocracy"...the premise: what if men had to conform to beauty standards set by women? http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/19/man-up.html It made me . I'm be damn hot as a girl, don't know what you're tripping off of!
Phateless Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 So ? Men have to shave, their faces, I know a few guys who have to shave twice a day from how fast it grows back. Why can't women accept us with long scraggly charlie manson beards? What about when men start losing their hair? They have to spend a lot of money on treatments like Rogaine etc to keep it. The truth is it's not that much better for men, just different. It's a social problem, both sexes are extremely judgemental and shallow, because our subconscious has been molded since kids by TV and movies, which want us to consume as much as possible just so we can feel like we're the same or better as everyone else. I'm not saying women should be slobs who dont take care of themselves at all, but the lengths women go to to try and be the best looking of all the girls is ridiculous and unnecessary. Sure it'll work with a small percentage of equally shallow and narcissistic men, but the real guys who will love you no matter what don't really care and can barely tell if you use 200 dollar exotic salon shampoo or VO5. We do have primping of our own to do, but women still have a lot more. More hair, more surfaces to shave, and far more cosmetics. I'm a guy and I hate shaving like death, but women need a lot more beautification time than we do, societally. Personally, I'm happy with my girl in tight faded jeans, a thin tank top, a pony tail, and some lip gloss. All that primping doesn't interest me.
Woggle Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 To be fair a man can be ugly as sin and still be a sex symbol. For some unknown reason Russel Brand has his share of female admirers even though he is downright scary looking. I can't see a female version of him becoming a sex symbol.
jamesum Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 1.) Eyeliner IS makeup. 2.) It's one of the most annoying and complex kinds of make-up. . . someone who is good at putting on eyeliner can apply just about any other kind of make-up with ease; it's one of the only kinds that takes skill/practice/time. What I meant to say was eye liner is the only make that I think a woman needs. 3.) Most men who say they don't like women with make-up just mean they don't like it when they know women are wearing make-up (i.e. it's obvious or, even if it looks natural, it rubs off on the guy's collar or whatnot). What they really mean is they want women who are as pretty as they are with make-up without wearing make-up. I say this as someone who wears very little makeup and generally does fine without it. I used to, in college, but now I wear a light foundation that's mixed with my moisturizer and maybe some lipgloss. (Eye make-up only at night/going out occasions and rarely.) I'm not a great defender of make-up, but most of my male friends are constantly saying they don't like make-up yet when someone who is not naturally "their type/pretty" looks a lot better with make-up, they suddenly wonder, "What's so different?" It's silliness.I didnt say women with make-up are ugly. In fact they tend to look better. But that doesnt mean I like it more. I find women with much make up looking like a doll/mannequin. I may feel sexually attracted to them but I cannot feel emotional connection because they look unhuman-like if you know what I mean. And also eye lash extensions are the ugliest things women put on their faces in my opinion. To be fair a man can be ugly as sin and still be a sex symbol. For some unknown reason Russel Brand has his share of female admirers even though he is downright scary looking. I can't see a female version of him becoming a sex symbol. Yeah, but crazy men like Russell Brand attracts only very young and stupid women.
Stockalone Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) what if men had to conform to beauty standards set by women? I'd start wearing a "NO MA'AM" shirt, and proudly show off my hairy chest, arms, and knuckles. Seriously though, that was one lousy article. The last time I checked, I already live in a world where disregarding beauty standards set by women, significantly decreases my chances of finding a partner. Both men and women have to conform to beauty standards set by the other gender, if they don't want to diminish in value. So I am not sure what the author's point is. That women have it worse? Edited July 20, 2010 by Stockalone
Feelin Frisky Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Actually, the author is a female...or at least the name is female... But I feel that the author is blaming the male gender for these "rules" they must abide by to succeed in society while many of these so-called standards are actually propogated by women themselves... Oops, thanks for the correction (and for being a good sport about that "no homo" jibe on another thread).
Author USMCHokie Posted July 20, 2010 Author Posted July 20, 2010 Oops, thanks for the correction (and for being a good sport about that "no homo" jibe on another thread). Heh, no worries, it's all in good fun.
fwang Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 If all the women don't wear any make-up, I could be one of them. The problem is, women with make-up make women who don't wear any make-up look worse. So, I'd better put on cosmetics since every girl does the same thing.
AD1980 Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Women do this to themsvles because they are sheep/slaves to what the media says is beautiful..You can tell them a million times over how beautiful they are but because thye dont look like women on tv or commercials they wanna slit their wrists.. Add in the competiton thing where women are aiming for the same small group of Men..SO the idea its Men forcing womne to do this is laughable.. Plus lets not act like women arent shallow and looks mean nothing to them..There just as shallow its just that Men get more **** for it.. Male height or lack of is the #1 physical dealbreaker in the dating world and theres nothing short Men can do about it.. Edited July 20, 2010 by AD1980
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