Pyro Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 What are they so afraid of? They are afraid to be equal. They think that woman are so inferior. I am not sure. It boggles the mind. Why don't you ask one of the males who believe that they are better than woman? Link to post Share on other sites
justagirliegirl Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 They are afraid to be equal. They think that woman are so inferior. I am not sure. It boggles the mind. Why don't you ask one of the males who believe that they are better than woman? Ok... guys who think you are better than women. Why do you think that and why are you afraid of strong women? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 I don't think men are afraid of equality but men feel like it is a zero sum game. They feel like either them or women has to be the winner. I don't share that view but I see where it comes from. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 WTF are you talking about? look around you and observe, listen, use your eyes. In almost every relationship between two people (parent/child, boss/employee, man/woman, etc...) their is one person who is more dominant and one more submissive. WTF planet are you living on where every relation ship is equal? WTF! well boss and employee is a given........ unless you pop in on those postal workers that go postal..... obvious if you have a gun you are more dominate Of course if you want a paycheck you do your job....doh. However there are employees that are dominate because they are needed to complete a task. Parent and child.... well until teens.... the same basic principle as boss/employee. Of course you have children that dominate the entire family as well.... lets call these POSTAL KIDS. male and female in a non employee or parental situation.... can be equal, income may, work load, daily chores, decisions, and parenting. Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think that men who have to think women are inferior are the same as anyone who has to be better because they are part of a certain group. They can't compete as humans, so they have to be better because of something no one can control. It's also like homophobia. Most homophobic men (I'm talking extremes, the ones who go around beating them up) are terrified that another man will treat them the way they treat women. I am going to continue to preach my version of feminism. Hate comes from ignorance. And in that capacity, I will be nagging... Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I hate to say but I think there is no redeeming that word. The swaztika used to actually have a positive image before Hitler but there is no reforming that image now, I think it might be the same thing with the word feminist. I also think that comparing the feminists to a guy that tried to exterminate an entire race of people is just a tad overdramatic. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 I also think that comparing the feminists to a guy that tried to exterminate an entire race of people is just a tad overdramatic. Have you read The Scum Manifesto? Change the words men and jews and it would read like a Nazi manifesto. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 male and female in a non employee or parental situation.... can be equal, income may, work load, daily chores, decisions, and parenting. most of the time it is not equal....that is the reality A4A. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 most of the time it is not equal....that is the reality A4A. Just because you see it, that does not mean that it is majority for all. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 To me any good marriage should be equal. Power struggles are not good for any relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Have you read The Scum Manifesto? Change the words men and jews and it would read like a Nazi manifesto. No, I haven't. I need to, it's important to know the enemy. But the crazies don't speak for all of us... Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 This is exactly the type of mentality that feminism has fostered. Go to any ghetto in America and see what fatherlessness on a massive scale does to boys. bit in thoose situations theya re fatherless not because of feminism but because the fathers didn't have the balls to stay around and live of to thier responsiblities. Link to post Share on other sites
justagirliegirl Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 bit in thoose situations theya re fatherless not because of feminism but because the fathers didn't have the balls to stay around and live of to thier responsiblities. True, those are the ones who view women and children as disposible. Link to post Share on other sites
hotgurl Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 True, those are the ones who view women and children as disposible. yeah true and after all my experiences at the hands of men who are jerks and think women are objects or things and think no is not really no I could start quite a few why do all men threads but I don't. Link to post Share on other sites
justagirliegirl Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 yeah true and after all my experiences at the hands of men who are jerks and think women are objects or things and think no is not really no I could start quite a few why do all men threads but I don't. I find it hilarious when jerk guys who think they are better than women try to patronize me or bully me and usually they are the stupidest of men too. It is fun to take them down a notch. Link to post Share on other sites
Sassy Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I find it hilarious when jerk guys who think they are better than women try to patronize me or bully me and usually they are the stupidest of men too. It is fun to take them down a notch. Sometimes men just need a light slamming!! lol j/k:lmao: :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I find it hilarious when jerk guys who think they are better than women try to patronize me or bully me and usually they are the stupidest of men too. It is fun to take them down a notch. Its unfortunate that some men think that they are better then women or they believe that they have to be better then women. Link to post Share on other sites
justagirliegirl Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Its unfortunate that some men think that they are better then women or they believe that they have to be better then women. True and thank goodness many don't. Link to post Share on other sites
Pink_Tulip Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Wow, just finished reading this entire thread, now I am all riled up! Feminism is about choice, plain and simple. The ability for a woman to choose a career, staying at home with the kids, college, to be able to own property on her own, to be able to have her own bank account, money, stocks, retirement account, to be able to vote... these are the things feminism has gotten us. Yes there are a few extremists who, for whatever reason, hate men. But to say that this is the rule rather than the exception is just ignorant. Like anything else, the whackos get the headlines and the publicity, NOT the average, even keeled, normal person. I am raising my daughter to be a feminist. I am teaching her that no one will take care of her, she needs to do it on her own. She needs to go to college, have her own savings account, know how to live within a budget, etc. Now, if her choice is to stay home and never work AFTER she gets her degree, b/c this is the decision she and her husband believe is best for their family, more power to her. But she will always have a degree to fall back on should something happen. And she will NEVER feel stuck in a marriage b/c she has no way of taking care of herself. Now, where in there did I say she must hate all men or think less of them? And to use college girls as your example of what feminism is??? ROFLMAO! Omg, most every college kid is so ideological, and has such warped conceptions of the real world. I am sure everyone on this forum 30 and above can look back at when they were 19, 20, 21, and laugh at the person they were back then. Thats like asking a 10 year old if they believe punishment is good or bad and using that to determine how to discipline your child. Not saying college kids aren't smart or anything, just saying when you live on your own, have a career, mortgage, etc, you tend to see things a bit differently. And as for fatherless children... I am a social worker and 95% of my clients are on welfare, with no husbands in sight. NOT b/c of feminism, but b/c of the moral decay in our society that says its ok to run around and have unprotected sex with anyone you want, and you don't have to be responsible for the consequences, ie, a child. One of my last clients was a 21 year old girl pregnant with her second child. The father was in his forties, and his MO was to go find 18 year old girls from abusive homes, sweet talk them, convince them he loved them and would take care of them, get them pregnant, and live off their welfare until they finally wised up and kicked him out. He had TEN kids from four different moms that we knew of. And with my client, he convinced her to also start acting in internet porn to help bring in some money, cuz he was tooooo lazy to get a job. I am sure that helped with her abuse issues. You live like that a few years, and its not so hard to take the leap to manhating. I really wonder about people who only seem to surround themselves with the exact type of people they fear and hate. If every contact you have with a woman is about her hating men and wanting control, etc., I think that speaks to something that you are projecting that makes those types of people attracted to you. Here you have a public forum with women from all walks of life, from all over the world, telling you MOST women love men, see them as equals, don't want to be dominated or dominate, just want a loving, caring, mutally supportive relationship, and yet you still say WE are in the minority. I have to agree with the others, I hate your mom! She was a bad person, and a bad mother, and I wish you would see that rather than assume she speaks for the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites
fraidycat Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Why do women think nagging will get their men to listein to them...and why do men think ignoring their women till the point of nagging will get them sex...it's just an age old question! Like where do babies come from..why is the sky blue and so and so on Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Look at this way...Did ANY of us, as kids, listen to our Mom's bitching to us?? No, probably not. We tuned it out, in our heads saying "Yeah, yeah, blah, blah..." and did what we wanted anyway. In one ear and out the other. So, just because a couple are together, either married or just in a relationship, doesn't mean they have to nag and bitch at eachother. Talking is good, expressing needs is good, but nitpicking and screeching is very offputting and most people shy away from it and close down. It's compromise, respecting eachother and also, most of all (I think) being abit more laid back. Those who nitpick tend to have high expectations of what life should be like, what their house should look like and how the other person should dress. Should is a negative word most of the time... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 I really wonder about people who only seem to surround themselves with the exact type of people they fear and hate. If every contact you have with a woman is about her hating men and wanting control, etc., I think that speaks to something that you are projecting that makes those types of people attracted to you. Here you have a public forum with women from all walks of life, from all over the world, telling you MOST women love men, see them as equals, don't want to be dominated or dominate, just want a loving, caring, mutally supportive relationship, and yet you still say WE are in the minority. I have to agree with the others, I hate your mom! She was a bad person, and a bad mother, and I wish you would see that rather than assume she speaks for the rest of us. Yes women like that are in the minority. They say that is what they want but that is not really what they want and yes I think deep down most women hate men and take joy in seeing us suffer. When women see a man going through hardship it makes them happy. Link to post Share on other sites
tigger Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 K - maybe this has been spoken about, but why do you men keep making us nag? For me, I don't like to nag, I hate it. But I can only hold my tongue for so long. It's not my job to keep the house clean, or pick up on his side of the bed. I'm not a neat freak BY ANY MEANS! But things kept neat isn't too much to ask. So if I ask nicely, why can't it be done without my having to nag? PS: women tune men out too, its not like we're the only ones who nag! Link to post Share on other sites
Sassy Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 K - maybe this has been spoken about, but why do you men keep making us nag? For me, I don't like to nag, I hate it. But I can only hold my tongue for so long. It's not my job to keep the house clean, or pick up on his side of the bed. I'm not a neat freak BY ANY MEANS! But things kept neat isn't too much to ask. So if I ask nicely, why can't it be done without my having to nag? PS: women tune men out too, its not like we're the only ones who nag! Totally agree with you Tigger on what you said great post!! Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Yes women like that are in the minority. They say that is what they want but that is not really what they want and yes I think deep down most women hate men and take joy in seeing us suffer. When women see a man going through hardship it makes them happy. Wow it would seem as though you may hate/fear women....... I cannot believe how much hell you must be going through with these kind of thoughts. You really need to resolve these issues before you get married. Think about it if your new wife pisses you off once married a good chance you will lump her in with the "man haters". Woggle please try to resolve this, you are missing out on so much by keeping this outlook on women. Think about you are doing almost the same basic thing your mother was doing to men, you are doing it to women ....just more subtle. Link to post Share on other sites
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