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5 minutes ago, Thelambofdeth said:

Lol that was the plan for some time, but I don't have that luxury. Considering I can't get a SINGLE reply/match on OKC/tinder/bumble, that's not an option. And in this age if you don't have online dating as an option, you're basically screwed. Not to mention it's pretty humbling and doesn't exactly inspire confidence irl, if you can't even get a date online.

 

I was talking about speed dating. That is a quite efficient way to meet a lot of single people. I think it offers a lot of possibility to notice mistakes and to correct them instantly, because the next date is just eight minutes away. And if you fail with the current one, you won't spend too much time brooding about it, because the next date is... just eight minutes away! :D 

 

Also, online dating sucks, because EVERONE, including me, has expectations, so you filter out  a lot of people that might be a good match for you. With speed dating, you just meet random people.

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8 hours ago, K.K. said:

 

Hi Thelambofdeth 😬 

 

I bet your name is like John or something. Or Matt. Jason! Funny how the cyber world works. The name you choose can become you. Or you the name -whatev. But you’re not. You’re somebody else. Its all a fantasy. A big fat mirage of what you wanna put out there and what you get back.  I think about this s*** way too much. Yea I’m rambling already, I know I know .. ughh i just woke up from a s***ty nightmare that my little dog was being attacked by pit bulls. I know that your dreams are actually representations of something bigger. I wonder what mine represented. I know that I’m half asleep. Forgive me

 

 

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What a lucky guess....my name is Jason, actually. Never been a fan of it, but eh...

I actually apologize often, but its not from passivity, its become I'm so formal and it's a bad habit I have.

I didn't send the link yet. They're called Fleshgod Apocalypse.(Yes, the name sounds like two words a edgelord polish kid threw together that was cool in 6th grade lol)

Their newer stuff kind of just sounds like Lord of the Rings background music with death vox. It doesn't have the beautiful frenzy SoP had but heres a older song and a newer one from them.

 

(URLs removed)

 

 



And sure, send me whatever you'd like.

Death Grips is probably the closest I found to a decent rap/metal combo. Their stuff is simply put....weird af but I think it's pretty catchy. And it's so spastic literally the first thing I think of with them is an acid trip haha.
Idk if I'd say Tech N9ne is the second best rapper, but he's certainly immensely talented. No question. Now that I think about it idk why I'd put as second 🤔

I'm only being realistic. It's not just one factor, it's a number of them. First of all flat-out, if you can't get a online date in this age, something is wrong with your looks. Period. When you try the less attraction women and still NONE of them bite, there's an issue. And just in general it's all about compensation. If you're a weird, alternative black introvert, well you better be super good-looking, or super charming. That's told much to have to compensate for. People don't know how to react or guage you, so I'm just avoided. Thing is for most people, (even so called unique ones) you have to fit in box, be normal or at least adhere to certain stereotypes. If you don't, you're pretty f***ed.

It's a lot easier to engage with people online. You can be reactive, it's at your leisure and theres not pressure or the like. Irl its totally different. There I can find a women to talk to for five minutes let alone have a conversation. Idk how long "due" time is supposed to be, but I know it shouldn't be over two bleeding years. I don't even get the bare minimum.

Moving along, speaking of Lil Wayne, I remember a few years back when he was the most popular rapper out. He was bleeding everywhere. EVERY rapper had to have him on thoer album. Sometimes on multiple tracks, ffs and the guy had a new mixtapes every week it felt like. Then he made that "rock" album, it flopped and Drake and a few others have taken  his spot now. But man, for a few years he was untouchable. Too bad I always hated his voice, and for as popular as he was I always felt his production choices were weak. Never really got his appeal tbh.

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32 minutes ago, PinkFlamingo said:

 

I was talking about speed dating. That is a quite efficient way to meet a lot of single people. I think it offers a lot of possibility to notice mistakes and to correct them instantly, because the next date is just eight minutes away. And if you fail with the current one, you won't spend too much time brooding about it, because the next date is... just eight minutes away! :D 

 

Also, online dating sucks, because EVERONE, including me, has expectations, so you filter out  a lot of people that might be a good match for you. With speed dating, you just meet random people.

Yes, OLD is mostly venue for women to find men who look like Tom Hardy and Henry Cavil and little else. It's sad because considering it's so widespread, it could actually be a useful tool for meeting people for people who otherwise wouldn't normally meet those people. But it's just a even more condensed, shallow mirror of things, but alas sour grapes on my end.

 

 

Speed-dating wouldn't really work for me, personally. I'm not good in quick-fire interactions, especially with people I don't know. Since so much of that is based on first-impressions and instant reports, I'd be mostly out in the cold.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Thelambofdeth said:

Yes, OLD is mostly venue for women to find men who look like Tom Hardy and Henry Cavil and little else. It's sad because considering it's so widespread, it could actually be a useful tool for meeting people for people who otherwise wouldn't normally meet those people. But it's just a even more condensed, shallow mirror of things, but alas sour grapes on my end.

 

 

Speed-dating wouldn't really work for me, personally. I'm not good in quick-fire interactions, especially with people I don't know. Since so much of that is based on first-impressions and instant reports, I'd be mostly out in the cold.

 

 

 

Ahem, men also are not the nicest people when doing online dating and also pretty shallow, that's why I said EVERYONE.
 

You are not too shy or introverted, you just make too many excuses. I am totally convinced that you are not good with talking to people or flirting, but that's the point of going to speed dating. It's to practice and to get over your inhibitions.

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1 hour ago, Thelambofdeth said:

Yes, OLD is mostly venue for women to find men who look like Tom Hardy and Henry Cavil and little else. It's sad because considering it's so widespread, it could actually be a useful tool for meeting people for people who otherwise wouldn't normally meet those people. But it's just a even more condensed, shallow mirror of things, but alas sour grapes on my end.

 

 

 

People seek similar people.  It's how the world works.   I've seen my daughter on Tinder flicking past all the mainstream guys and looking for long hair/piercings/tats/black fingernails because that's who she is.   If he's not indie, he doesn't get a look in.

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13 minutes ago, basil67 said:

 

People seek similar people.  It's how the world works.   I've seen my daughter on Tinder flicking past all the mainstream guys and looking for long hair/piercings/tats/black fingernails because that's who she is.   If he's not indie, he doesn't get a look in.

Well I'm glad your daughter is special in that case and all, but that's not indicative of most women on tinder...at least from my experience. Many of them don't seek "similar" people. Just hot guys. For most, it's a way to funnel only the most of the most attractive and be as shallow as possible because theres so many thirsty dudes there will to chase.  

 

Obviously, I try to seek similar people. I don't swipe on the hot ones, women out of my league, or ones I seemingly have nothing in common with. I swipe on the alternative, weird women that say they're gothy/into metal, horror or video games or that align with my interests. Unless I'm missing something, we would seem pretty similar, and its awfully curious I happen to NEVER match.

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Well Tinder is simply online shopping for dates.  It's no different to looking for the prettiest boots on Amazon.   This isn't a woman thing - it's about how dating has been consumerised.   Even daughter agrees that the problem with OLD is that there's too much choice.

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29 minutes ago, PinkFlamingo said:

 

Ahem, men also are not the nicest people when doing online dating and also pretty shallow, that's why I said EVERYONE.
 

You are not too shy or introverted, you just make too many excuses. I am totally convinced that you are not good with talking to people or flirting, but that's the point of going to speed dating. It's to practice and to get over your inhibitions.

I'm not exempting men, but I'm speaking personally. I'm a dude so, I don't have to really deal with that. Not to mention on OLD men usually cast a wider new and are willing to compromise their standards more than women due to the attention deficit. MUCH more. Even the most Chad of Chad doesn't get a comparable about to the sum an average woman will.

 

....how would YOU know if I'm too shy or introverted? Lol. I think I'm a pretty good judge of that.  Seriously, speed-dating isn't conducive for someone in my shows for the reasons I listed. I don't gel with people instantly, and if you can, quick-fire interactions are kinda moot. I'm not making excuses, I'm being honest.

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19 minutes ago, basil67 said:

Well Tinder is simply online shopping for dates.  It's no different to looking for the prettiest boots on Amazon.   This isn't a woman thing - it's about how dating has been consumerised.   Even daughter agrees that the problem with OLD is that there's too much choice.

Not really. I can go on amazon and buy nice boots. I can't go onto OKC and get anything. OLD is basically an exclusive shopping club you're only allowed into if look good enough.

 

Yes, I'm sure of if you're a young woman, then the problem is "too much choice". Must be nice. But my point is, people shouldn't pretend that's some given for everyone, but because it is most certainly not. That is a luxury few are afforded. For many of us the problem is "no" choice.

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11 minutes ago, Thelambofdeth said:

Not really. I can go on amazon and buy nice boots. I can't go onto OKC and get anything. OLD is basically an exclusive shopping club only some are allowed into.

 

Yes, I'm sure of if you're a young woman, then the problem is "too much choice". But my point, is people shouldn't pretend that's some given for everyone. That is a luxury few are afforded. For many of us the problem is "no" choice.

 

A poor tradesman blames his tools.    Your mates have been really clear on all the things you could improve on.   

 

 

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3 minutes ago, basil67 said:

 

A poor tradesman blames his tools.    Your mates have been really clear on all the things you could improve on.   

 

 

Lol now you're moving the goal-post. Difference is you can buy new tools. And no trade is based around whether or not my tools are attractive enough. And yhe end, that's what it always comes down to. Not a lot I can do about that.

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42 minutes ago, Thelambofdeth said:

I'm not exempting men, but I'm speaking personally. I'm a dude so, I don't have to really deal with that. Not to mention on OLD men usually cast a wider new and are willing to compromise their standards more than women due to the attention deficit. MUCH more. Even the most Chad of Chad doesn't get a comparable about to the sum an average woman will.

 

Your whining about online dating is starting to be annoying. It's only me, me me. Only I and other men have problems with online dating and nobody else.

 

42 minutes ago, Thelambofdeth said:

....how would YOU know if I'm too shy or introverted? Lol. I think I'm a pretty good judge of that.  Seriously, speed-dating isn't conducive for someone in my shows for the reasons I listed. I don't gel with people instantly, and if you can, quick-fire interactions are kinda moot. I'm not making excuses, I'm being honest.

 

Because that's what you wrote:

 

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I'm 26 and I basically have crippling social anxiety. I feel into the incel scene and few times and because of my lack of any actual female companionship, I do have a porn addiction. I do have a few friends, but they don't really share the same interests as I. For the past year and a half, a least one a week we go to the couple of bar. Ones is a wine bar , one is a dice. In that span I've been bit on only a few times and it's either gone nowhere, or I was too oblivious to notice. But I flat put cannot approach any female I see out that I'm attracted to. It never gets any easier for me.

 

The top two recommendations are also dating sites and meet-ups. I've tried dating sites and it hasn't worked. Not bc the dates don't really go anywhere or whatnot, but because I can't get any. I've has tinder, okc, and humble active for years and I cant get a single reply. I'm 6'3, black, I work out 3x a week and have six pack abs, I groom to the point of metro sexuality, I wear literal high fashion suits(tom ford, slp, Burberry,) I make decent money, and I live alone. I know I'm not really physically attractive, but I'm not totally ugly either, so the cpmplate lack of any replies or matches on these sites have all but destroyed any confidence I could have with females irl.

 

When I go out I'm basically uniformly ignored by females. Hell, pretty often I get compliments from guys based on my attire but females completely ignore. I don't get looks, or glances or casual chit-chat. Nothing.

 

The second recommendation tends to be meets ups. And while that is probably more conductive to meet a mate, its not possible for me as an introvert. None of my friends are really interested in the ones I'd attend, and I simply cannot go alone. Thus the only option I really had are the bars I frequent, which has beared no fruit.

 

Hence why at this point entertaining hoookers seems to be the only option. The feeling of loneliness and unhappiness is reaching levels I cant handle. Constantly seeing everyone else with dates, fwbs, gfs, wives, etc while I have nothing is just killing me. If I has the luxury of dating sites or parties, of if I had tons of friends or was still in college, or an extrovert, I would have other venues, but I don't.

 

At this point porn isn't enough, and I know empty sex as a business transaction likely won't help my situation in the long run, but I don't know what else to do.

 

 

This is like a guy complaining that he doesn't gel well with the HR people during a job interview and therefore it doesn't make sense to go to interviews to practice.
 

But whatever, people can do whatever they want to do.

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9 minutes ago, Thelambofdeth said:

Lol now you're moving the goal-post. Difference is you can buy new tools. And no trade is based around whether or not my tools are attractive enough. And yhe end, that's what it always comes down to. Not a lot I can do about that.

 

I think you don't understand the phrase.   The phrase means that a poor tradesman blames tools which, in the hands of another, work perfectly well.   

 

 

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31 minutes ago, PinkFlamingo said:

 

Your whining about online dating is starting to be annoying. It's only me, me me. Only I and other men have problems with online dating and nobody else.

 

 

This is like a guy complaining that he doesn't gel well with the HR people during a job interview and therefore it doesn't make sense to go to interviews to practice.
 

But whatever, people can do whatever they want to do.

Sorry if I can't seem to focus on the benefits, positives and unabashed wonders of OLD as I remain here with nothing. Yes, I'm sure all the hook-ups and relationships normal, attractive people get from OLD are totally cool and uber awesome. You'll have to pardon me if that's not something I'm personally fixated on. People are literally more concerned about someone being politically correct, than the issues they're actually dealing with. I'm sorry, but as far as issues for women go, OLD isn't among them. Its the most first, of first world issues. OLD is essentially built for women to thrive, and have ample choice. It basically comes down to, "just how perfect do I want my match to be."

 

That really...makes no sense, and isn't similar. How many speed-interviews session have you heard of? And selling your resume =/= if someone just thinks you're attractive. But sure, I'm just being petty and and difficult. Ok. Consider yourself lucky you don't understand.

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10 minutes ago, basil67 said:

 

I think you don't understand the phrase.   The phrase means that a poor tradesman blames tools which, in the hands of another, work perfectly well.   

 

 

Well my botched analysis or not, that doesn't apply. The problem is I need new tools, and its incredibly patronizing to be frequently told that's not the case. People too easily believe they understand or know better when they have no idea what's its actually like.

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What are you looking for in a woman, anyway?  Do you want someone who looks goth?  Do you want someone who looks like the girl next door, ordinary?  Do you want someone sweet or someone kind of aggressive but cool? Do you want someone who lives a clean, healthy lifestyle, or do you want someone who gets high or likes to go get loaded a lot? Do you want someone hot, a 7-10?  Do you want to date within your own race or culture?  What are the restrictions you've put on it?  The more specialized your requirements are, the fewer people are even out there to match, in real life or online.  

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23 minutes ago, preraph said:

What are you looking for in a woman, anyway?  Do you want someone who looks goth?  Do you want someone who looks like the girl next door, ordinary?  Do you want someone sweet or someone kind of aggressive but cool? Do you want someone who lives a clean, healthy lifestyle, or do you want someone who gets high or likes to go get loaded a lot? Do you want someone hot, a 7-10?  Do you want to date within your own race or culture?  What are the restrictions you've put on it?  The more specialized your requirements are, the fewer people are even out there to match, in real life or online.  

For someone who's 6'3", in great shape and at least not distractingly ugly, my standards are low af. I don't care at all about race or culture. I'd prefer is she was a gothy, alternative weirdo, nerdy type, but I don't have anything about girl next door types, or bar crawlers. I don't really try with the conventional hot ones, anyway so it's not like I'm eyeing women out of my league. My taste is as broad as it can realistically it. Like everyone, I have preferences, but again I hardly disclude anyone. At the point I hardly have requirements.

 

Like I've said before, I've tried messaging girls who I think I'd gel with online, that weren't really conventionally attractive, and were different. Yet I've done no better matching with them than anyone else.

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Sounds reasonable.  To get with that crowd, though, likely going to have to do the unthinkable, and get out of the house and find out where they hang out!  

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I have a a few thoughts/ideas.  Hopefully there is something useful for you.

 

Firstly, I would remove your profiles from online dating websites.  It is not working for you and all it is doing is chipping away at your self esteem, which is the last thing you need.  It isn't designed to work for everyone, especially those who aren't overtly confident and outgoing. 

 

Secondly, if you have a porn addiction, it probably needs to be addressed at some point because the type of stimulation you get will make it harder to be with a regular women.  I'm not an expert on the male brain and what porn does, but there has been research regarding the side effects on some men which you might want to have a look at.  Not to mention that fact that a lot of porn gives a skewed idea of a woman's role in sex.  It may not give you an accurate idea of how a woman should or wants to be treated in bed. 

 

Thirdly, I would look for more group/friendship based websites, rather than dating websites.  Obviously online it isn't as good as meeting people in person, but I think you might find it less intimidating at first, and the more interactions and bonds you can create with women the better.  Building friendships with women is the best way of developing those kind of skills, without the pressure of having to take things further.

 

If you start to gain a bit more confidence with this, you might decide to involve yourself in meetups and activities in person, which might involve expanding your social circle to include people with similar interests so you can go to these events and activities together.  While you are there, your focus should be more about friendships and building rapport with women, not looking for date.  Find out what they respond to positively and what they don't.  You might try smiling and subtle eye contact one time and not another, just see if there is a difference.  Perhaps dressing a bit more casually and fitted, showing off a bit of the physique you have worked hard to achieve. Just little experiments to gain some insight into what women like.

 

I know these suggestions probably sound like a waste of time because they are not technically about how to "get a woman"".  However, at this point it doesn't sound like you are ready for that just yet.  You need a level of confidence to be able to pursue women (they are much less likely to do the pursuing), and that will take some time to feel more natural and comfortable.

 

If you were able to lay some of the ground work to get prepared to take the next step towards dating, that would be huge progress you could be proud of.  It may not give you what you want straight away, but you would be heading in the right direction.  Better than doing the same thing over and over hoping for different results anyway.

 

Good luck.

 

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They're called Fleshgod Apocalypse. Yes, the name sounds like two words a edgelord polish kid threw together that was cool in 6th grade lol)

 

 

Either that or a monumental fap fest with one hell of a ‘partner.’ 😏 

 

The name- not the band. Had to look it up since I guess we can’t have urls in here anymore or something don’t know what’s up with that but.. I digress. Anyway, good choice as always. Thank you. I liked. 

 

Wow... you’ve been a popular guy in here I see. Lots of good advice... that you’ll never take. 

 

Makes me feel kind of selfish for forgetting the main picture and merely bulls***ting about life, learning about vox, and shooting the s*** about bands. It was so enjoyable I had forgotten anybody else was even in the room lol ! No for real tho. 

 

I apologize for that. (As usual lol) 

 

My bad. 

 

Hope you’re well. 

 

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22 hours ago, Thelambofdeth said:

Well my botched analysis or not, that doesn't apply. The problem is I need new tools, and its incredibly patronizing to be frequently told that's not the case. People too easily believe they understand or know better when they have no idea what's its actually like.

 

OK, so in terms of needing new tools,  what are you currently doing to improve your social skills, address your anxiety and learning to dress appropriately for an occasion?    

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Sorry if I can't seem to focus on the benefits, positives and unabashed wonders of OLD as I remain here with nothing. Yes, I'm sure all the hook-ups and relationships normal, attractive people get from OLD are totally cool and uber awesome. You'll have to pardon me if that's not something I'm personally fixated on. People are literally more concerned about someone being politically correct, than the issues they're actually dealing with. I'm sorry, but as far as issues for women go, OLD isn't among them. Its the most first, of first world issues. OLD is essentially built for women to thrive, and have ample choice. It basically comes down to, "just how perfect do I want my match to be."

 

That really...makes no sense, and isn't similar. How many speed-interviews session have you heard of? And selling your resume =/= if someone just thinks you're attractive. But sure, I'm just being petty and and difficult. Ok. Consider yourself lucky you don't understand.

 

You are like one of these people who always think that they are the only ones with problems and everybody has it easy.

In your mind, looking good will solve all your problems, that you can wait around like a little princess while people will flock to you. That might work for 2 % of the population who are very attractive, but the rest, even the regular attractive one, still have to offer a bit more than that. And the 2 % will still have to work to maintain the attraction. Everybody knows this feeling of silent disappointment when they stumble upon a good-looking person and then discover that they are not the sharpest tool in the box or mean or selfish or utterly boring. Maybe of the 2 % a tenth can get away with just their looks and nothing else, sitting around and looking pretty, but that also requires that they do not demand much from their admirers, they have to be happy with someone who thinks the world of them, just based on their looks. I've seen guys who run after hot women who do not any particulary feelings for them, but compensate that with loving spending their money, and I think, poor little idiots. Although, come to think of it, these women might be a bad example, they are hot and they have a certain finesse and their social skills probably are also pretty good. Whatever, if you do not think you have to work on your social skills, then don't do it, moping is also a way of attracting women.

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22 hours ago, Scarlett.O'hara said:

I have a a few thoughts/ideas.  Hopefully there is something useful for you.

 

Firstly, I would remove your profiles from online dating websites.  It is not working for you and all it is doing is chipping away at your self esteem, which is the last thing you need.  It isn't designed to work for everyone, especially those who aren't overtly confident and outgoing. 

 

This seems a good idea, honestly. I do think one of the biggest sources of my low self-esteem as of late is my lack of any success on dating sites. And the app remaining active are a constant reminder of that failure.

 

 

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Secondly, if you have a porn addiction, it probably needs to be addressed at some point because the type of stimulation you get will make it harder to be with a regular women.  I'm not an expert on the male brain and what porn does, but there has been research regarding the side effects on some men which you might want to have a look at.  Not to mention that fact that a lot of porn gives a skewed idea of a woman's role in sex.  It may not give you an accurate idea of how a woman should or wants to be treated in bed. 

 

 

This also seems sounds, but I don't think I have to worry about a womans role or expectation in bed annnnnnnnnny time soon, if ever again. While I understand the net positives of not relying on porn as much as I do, It's incredibly difficult to cut out porn when you have no outlet of intimacy available with real woman.

 

 

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Thirdly, I would look for more group/friendship based websites, rather than dating websites.  Obviously online it isn't as good as meeting people in person, but I think you might find it less intimidating at first, and the more interactions and bonds you can create with women the better.  Building friendships with women is the best way of developing those kind of skills, without the pressure of having to take things further.

 

 

Online friendship sites?

 

 

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If you start to gain a bit more confidence with this, you might decide to involve yourself in meetups and activities in person, which might involve expanding your social circle to include people with similar interests so you can go to these events and activities together.  While you are there, your focus should be more about friendships and building rapport with women, not looking for date.  Find out what they respond to positively and what they don't.  You might try smiling and subtle eye contact one time and not another, just see if there is a difference.  Perhaps dressing a bit more casually and fitted, showing off a bit of the physique you have worked hard to achieve. Just little experiments to gain some insight into what women like.

 

I know these suggestions probably sound like a waste of time because they are not technically about how to "get a woman"".  However, at this point it doesn't sound like you are ready for that just yet.  You need a level of confidence to be able to pursue women (they are much less likely to do the pursuing), and that will take some time to feel more natural and comfortable.

 

If you were able to lay some of the ground work to get prepared to take the next step towards dating, that would be huge progress you could be proud of.  It may not give you what you want straight away, but you would be heading in the right direction.  Better than doing the same thing over and over hoping for different results anyway.

 

Good luck.

 

 

That's the goal, ultimately. A very simple one for most, but taking that step has proved daunting thus far...for a number of reasons. The intent certainly isn't to go there hitting on people, but to actually make viable connections. At this point finding a woman is becoming less and less prominent in terms of precedence. But to at least be around like-minded individuals.  So, this hardly sound like a waste of time. A nice outline of what needs to be done actually. Just going to be a matter of doing it.

 

Thank you.

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3 hours ago, K.K. said:

 

Either that or a monumental fap fest with one hell of a ‘partner.’ 😏 

 

The name- not the band. Had to look it up since I guess we can’t have urls in here anymore or something don’t know what’s up with that but.. I digress. Anyway, good choice as always. Thank you. I liked. 

 

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Wow... you’ve been a popular guy in here I see. Lots of good advice... that you’ll never take. 

If it was easier for me to take the numerous helpful advice I've received in this thread believe me, I would...

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1 hour ago, basil67 said:

 

OK, so in terms of needing new tools,  what are you currently doing to improve your social skills, address your anxiety and learning to dress appropriately for an occasion?    

Not, at lot, admittedly. It's not as simple as it seems.(Though the last one I still don't believe needs addressing.)

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