Radu Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Dunno, you think its ok to buy humans for self-pleasure. So.. Maybe i'm missing something here, but how does buying a porn magazine equate to buying and selling human beings. If it does somehow, i need to do something about it, lest i be accused of 100+ accounts of human trafficking. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I agree. My wife caught our son when he was 11 watching gay porn. I let my wife handle that one because I am not sure I could. It is one thing to know that he saw a Playboy. It is entirely another thing to know that he watched to guys f*cking. Why did he look for it? His search showed that he did not look up gay porn, but he did look up something. Was it accidental? Maybe. he took a small laptop in a room and watched it. He planned a time so obviously it enticed him. So when I say it needs to be handled, I know and have been there. The question on how is always the tricky part. This is a good point. I would absolutely not allow my son to watch gay porn (only regular porn). And, come to think of it, if I have daughters and catch them watching porn, they will be punished. No way that's happening either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JamesM Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Don't worry.. Any father would be deeply troubled by their son being gay. I am not saying yours is at all, but your concerns are 100% normal..No need to justify yourself. I am not because the graphic nature hit me first. "Waaaaaaaaaaah! My sons sexuality isn't what I wanted and expected him to be! Waaaaah!" Completely disgusting. You should totally be ashamed of yourself if you even have to think twice about your reaction to your child's sexuality. You know what's "deeply troubling"? Your outdated homophobia. You are way out of line and off topic. And there you go again using a word that doesn't explain the bigotry of homosexuals. If this were a discussion of how homosexuality might originate, then it would get interesting, but it isn't. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 This is a good point. I would absolutely not allow my son to watch gay porn (only regular porn). And, come to think of it, if I have daughters and catch them watching porn, they will be punished. No way that's happening either. Lol What? Why? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Is JamesM really getting flak for being concerned about his pre-teen son watching two men ****ing on the screen? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Lol What? Why? Oh, this poster has also said that despite his promiscuity, he wants to marry a woman with few sexual partners so that she'll teach their daughters that it's wrong to be 'promiscuous', while his sons get a free pass. Frankly, I do hope that Darwin is right and folks like this don't manage to get to procreation, but otherwise, don't you worry about him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Oh, this poster has also said that despite his promiscuity, he wants to marry a woman with few sexual partners so that she'll teach their daughters that it's wrong to be 'promiscuous', while his sons get a free pass. Don't be angry because I don't drink the koolaid and buy into the feminist imperative. Frankly, I do hope that Darwin is right and folks like this don't manage to get to procreation, but otherwise, don't you worry about him. I'll do just fine procreating, thank you very much. I really don't understand why you would want your daughters to watch porn and be promiscuous. They will have trouble finding decent men. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Because women have a sexuality themselves which they have the right to explore? They're going to do it anyway once they're 18. You know what happens to people who's sexuality gets repressed right? The opposite of what you're expecting. You can't stop nature. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Because women have a sexuality themselves which they have the right to explore? They're going to do it anyway once they're 18. You know what happens to people who's sexuality gets repressed right? The opposite of what you're expecting. You can't stop nature. I can try. I do not want any daughter of mine sleeping around. Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So why do you put the odds on a method that's not at all likely to achieve that result and simultaneously have a good chance of giving your daughters some mental complex about their own sexuality? Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So why do you put the odds on a method that's not at all likely to achieve that result and simultaneously have a good chance of giving your daughters some mental complex about their own sexuality? I plan on raising them in countries where women are still shamed out of this bad behavior. If they won't listen to me, they'll listen to society, for sure. That's the problem today. There's not enough shame and there are no inhibitions. Great for hooking up, terrible for anything meaningful. My goal is to not expose my children to this at all (sons or daughters). I especially don't want my daughters becoming like most of the women in the US. Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I think you are woefully confused. Playboy has not, ever, been "hardcore". And those who advocate a 13-14yo having a copy of Playboy might consider that the cover price of that single issue is 100% more than anybody should need to spend on porn these days. At least teach the kid financial sense. Playboy caused quite a stir when it got into full swing. Compared to the puritanism of the era, it was 'hardcore' ... nowadays ... that's something different. Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 As in the Middle-East and various parts of Africa? Or perhaps Russia and surrounding countries? Or South-East and/or south-Asia? All have pretty different ideas on how women should be compared to the 'West' but they're radically different from one another. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Playboy caused quite a stir when it got into full swing. Compared to the puritanism of the era, it was 'hardcore' ... nowadays ... that's something different. Yep. It was (and still is, actually) banned in quite a few places. Back where I come from, you had to order through an international site to get a hard copy of Playboy. My goal is to not expose my children to this at all (sons or daughters) Except that you just shamed the OP for trying to prevent her 7-yo son from being exposed? They will have trouble finding decent men. You mean like yourself? They will have trouble finding compatibility with hypocritical men who cite 'equality' when it suits them and apply double standards when it doesn't, yes. That is a benefit in my book. As for moving to other countries with 'more appropriate' gender roles, good luck with that. If you'd ever set foot outside of the first world in your lifetime, you might have noticed that fixed gender roles go both ways, with men also being expected to uphold their part of the duality. You may find that your rants on unfairness towards men might not be quite so welcome there as they are on LS. Edited October 23, 2013 by Elswyth 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Ditto on what Els just mentioned. I see a lot of traditional couples over here [obviously not US], and they tend to have something in common ... a man who ends up dead very fast, or crashes nervously. There are only 24hs in a day, so to do this you have 2 options : - be someone that makes a ton of money in little time [8hs/ day tops] - work extra Most in these 'traditional' marriages end up picking the 2nd, to get the missus to stay at home with the kids. They are counting the days to retirement [which is not really retirement], and God help their families should they die before that. Best thing you can get in life, is a girl who smiles because of general inner kindness, is not a taker, but a giver and who will treat you with respect ... damn hard to find one, but it's very rewarding to see them from time to time as it reminds you that it's possible, even if they are taken. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SincereOnlineGuy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Playboy caused quite a stir when it got into full swing. Compared to the puritanism of the era, it was 'hardcore' ... nowadays ... that's something different. You don't seem to know what "hardcore porn" IS. Playboy has never, ever, ever been hardcore. In fact it was many years after Playboy debuted that they even showed genitalia. They did at different times have peeing (and a fifteen-year-old centerfold) in Penthouse, but again, far from hardcore porn. Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 As for moving to other countries with 'more appropriate' gender roles, good luck with that. If you'd ever set foot outside of the first world in your lifetime, you might have noticed that fixed gender roles go both ways, with men also being expected to uphold their part of the duality. You may find that your rants on unfairness towards men might not be quite so welcome there as they are on LS. For god's sake don't let it be one of the countries in red: File:Gender Gap Report 2012.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia That's a huge sacrifice for the sake of promiscuity but I'm giving him the benfit of the doubt till further clarification. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) For god's sake don't let it be one of the countries in red: File:Gender Gap Report 2012.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia That's a huge sacrifice for the sake of promiscuity but I'm giving him the benfit of the doubt till further clarification. Interesting. The country I was born in is red. Worse than China and Thailand, WTF? Thank goodness I don't live there anymore. It was quite a chauvinistic hellhole. Currently in blue now, woohoo! Badger dude still would not survive in my homeland, though. Men are kinda expected to pay dates and rent there, and don't typically come to expect sex til months down the line. It was also totally socially acceptable to encourage gold-digging (and I don't mean the LS definition of gold-digging, I mean literally choosing a mate solely by how rich he was) - which totally blew my mind. Edited October 23, 2013 by Elswyth 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lixxy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Is JamesM really getting flak for being concerned about his pre-teen son watching two men ****ing on the screen? He's getting flack for being bothered about why his son might be gay. Link to post Share on other sites
Lixxy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I noticed this too. Criticality has a young son and daughter, but most of the others have not experienced the feeling that children are children and when they are your own, what happens to them is incredibly important. The "You don't have children of your own so you can't possibly comment on this" ad hom? Nice. I was wondering when that one would rear it's ugly head. The last time I heard that line it was from a mother who hit her toddler in the head in a shop. I told her she was disgusting and asked her if she'd do that to me. It's a great line to throw out when you don't have any explanation for your actions other than "Me, parent! You, childless!", as though being a parent with feels that I don't have automatically makes you a good parent with the best choices. Lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 He's getting flack for being bothered about why his son might be gay. Did you read his post? He specifically said that he was mainly bothered by how graphic the scene was. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Sigh, why did I click to display your post, MM? I assure you that many of us don't desire our girls to sleep around. The only difference is that we don't intend to sit around on the sidelines cheering our 7-yo boys on to sleep around either. There is a double standard upheld by... you and HBDC. Ouch. Such a great loss to the women of the world, to be disdained by the two of you. Meanwhile, plenty of decent men are happy to uphold the same values they expect of their partner. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Women also love men who somehow think they are entitled to speak for all women and whom they love, yes? Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Because making 2.5k posts on loveshack is such a great investment of your time? Link to post Share on other sites
JamesM Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 He's getting flack for being bothered about why his son might be gay. James never said anything about being bothered that his son was gay. James mentioned only that he was bothered that his son was watching graphic gay sex. If I had mentioned that I was bothered about him watching graphic anal sex (being that this is what it was), then I am sure nothing would have been said. If I had mentioned that I was bothered by him watching any other graphic sex, then I am sure no one would have paid attention. The fact that I mentioned that it was between two men suddenly made me afraid of homosexuals, which is far from the case. Whether I would be bothered by him being gay....I did not mention that nor is it on topic here. The "You don't have children of your own so you can't possibly comment on this" ad hom? Nice. Actually, it was used because there is a different perspective that parents have as compared to those without children. I include myself. When I didn't have children, then I know my perspective would have been different. I think my opinion would still have been the same, but it would have been from a perspective of one who is not completely knowledgeable about children due to living with them on a day to day basis. What we noticed is that those who do have children tend to say that it is not good for a 13 year old to watch porn, and those who don't have children seem to think it is okay. Example.....my son's teacher a couple of years ago was a good teacher. I once told her that her perspective would change when she had children. She could then better understand how it is not so easy to have a job and still go home to raise children, which is essentially another job. This being the opposite of her job was teaching children and then going home to no children. She has a child and once when we met, she had to tell me that having a child not only changed her perspective but it made her a better teacher as she can relate to the parents better. So it is here. Being a parent of a child that is your responsibility versus giving advice about children who you know nothing about IS different. That does NOT mean your perspective is not valuable nor is it disregarded. (If it was, then this thread would have been over along time ago). It is just interesting how those with children tend to have one viewpoint and those without have another. Not all, but most. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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