xxoo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Did you not hear that I had a interview this past Thursday and another one on Wednesday? So please tell me what the hell you are talking about? An interview is not an offer. A person who needs a job works as many options as they can. Notice the word "work". Finding a job is your job at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites
pink_sugar Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 But But Employers are known for interviewing candidates when the position 1. Doesn't exist 2. Already filled Isn't that the employer wasting someone's time? Usually it's being scheduled for an interview and going to it to be told they hired someone else. Yes, it's very irritating and I don't see why it wouldn't be appropriate to call the day of and confirm your interview just to make sure no one else has been hired. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Because you presumably need a job more than they need to hire you. Basic supply and demand. The market is not in your favor. So just because the economy is WEAK I have to walk around with low confidence? Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 An interview is not an offer. A person who needs a job works as many options as they can. Notice the word "work". Finding a job is your job at the moment. I'm not qualified for that job and only applied because I was willing to take a chance. Since then another opportunity came through which is something I;m 100% qualified for. That job I was only 35% qualified Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 PhillyDude, seems to me that you have very flawed thinking and don't understand the difference between an interview and a job offer. You've had a second short interview for just one job and a first interview for another job scheduled for this week. None of these is a JOB OFFER. How many interviews have you had in the last 10-11 months since you've been unemployed? How many job offers resulting from those interviews? None, right? Many people go for scores of interviews without being offered a position. Why do you think your situation is so different and so special that you can turn down opportunities? Likely none of these interviews this week will happen anyway once the storm hits. There's another excuse for you to slack off. Why haven't been drug tested yet??? Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 So just because the economy is WEAK I have to walk around with low confidence? This guy is hilarious... too bad Jersy Shore ended, you sound like you'd fit right in. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 So just because the economy is WEAK I have to walk around with low confidence? High confidence and unemployed vs. realistic perspective and employed. I know what I'd choose. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'm not qualified for that job and only applied because I was willing to take a chance. Since then another opportunity came through which is something I;m 100% qualified for. That job I was only 35% qualified Are you hiring yourself?! Who cares how qualified you think you are, interviews aren't ALL about being qualified, it's about assimilating in the the already working, work environment. You need a reality check.. You still live at home, don't you.. can't see you paying rent for the ten months. how old are you?! Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger Grant Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 So just because the economy is WEAK I have to walk around with low confidence? You should be conveying that at a moments notice you are ready, willing and able to work. This means your hair has been cut, your suit has been cleaned, you have bus fare in hand, and an umbrella if needed. If you were called on Monday at 4:58PM saying you're hired, you should be able to report to work the next morning. You've had 10 months to prepare for a new job. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Are you hiring yourself?! Who cares how qualified you think you are, interviews aren't ALL about being qualified, it's about assimilating in the the already working, work environment. You need a reality check.. You still live at home, don't you.. can't see you paying rent for the ten months. how old are you?! No I don't live at home, I tried to see can I get out of my lease but the rental office told me I can't do it. So I have to make sure I find a new cash flow so I can pay the bills Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 You should be conveying that at a moments notice you are ready, willing and able to work. This means your hair has been cut, your suit has been cleaned, you have bus fare in hand, and an umbrella if needed. If you were called on Monday at 4:58PM saying you're hired, you should be able to report to work the next morning. You've had 10 months to prepare for a new job. Sounds like I couldn't go to the interview tomorrow anyway because the mayor just announced the city is SHUTTING DOWN tomorrow due to the Hurricane Link to post Share on other sites
IcedEarth Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 No I don't live at home, I tried to see can I get out of my lease but the rental office told me I can't do it. So I have to make sure I find a new cash flow so I can pay the bills So go to the interview regardless. Yes it sucks, and employers have all the power and can jerk you around, but you've gotta do what you've gotta do. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 So go to the interview regardless. Yes it sucks, and employers have all the power and can jerk you around, but you've gotta do what you've gotta do. There is no interview, the mayor just shutdown the city for Monday Link to post Share on other sites
Floored Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'm not qualified for that job and only applied because I was willing to take a chance. Since then another opportunity came through which is something I;m 100% qualified for. That job I was only 35% qualified An interview is an opportunity at a job just as a lottery ticket is an opportunity at being a millionaire, meaning your chances are stupidly lower than you think they are. You place percentages on your qualifications like you best know the actual day-to-day operations of that job, even over the employer. I would argue that no one is 100% qualified for any job before actually starting and completing a few paychecks worth of experience. There is no interview, the mayor just shutdown the city for Monday You can honestly use this to your advantage, call them back and ask to set up an interview date later in the week. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 No I don't live at home, I tried to see can I get out of my lease but the rental office told me I can't do it. So I have to make sure I find a new cash flow so I can pay the bills Then you should probably take every job lead as if it's the only one, even after the job offer, until you show up on your first day. I've gotten a job offer rescinded for a friggin' parking ticket. by doing what you're doing, you're burning bridges you don't even know if you need or not-which not the most analytical approach Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 An interview is an opportunity at a job just as a lottery ticket is an opportunity at being a millionaire, meaning your chances are stupidly lower than you think they are. You place percentages on your qualifications like you best know the actual day-to-day operations of that job, even over the employer. I would argue that no one is 100% qualified for any job before actually starting and completing a few paychecks worth of experience. You can honestly use this to your advantage, call them back and ask to set up an interview date later in the week. Why would I accept a job I have no experience in and can't do it? Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Then you should probably take every job lead as if it's the only one, even after the job offer, until you show up on your first day. I've gotten a job offer rescinded for a friggin' parking ticket. by doing what you're doing, you're burning bridges you don't even know if you need or not-which not the most analytical approach My focus is on wednesday right now while the other company does the reference checks Link to post Share on other sites
Floored Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Why would I accept a job I have no experience in and can't do it? How can you accept or decline a job when there hasn't been an offer made? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Why would I accept a job I have no experience in and can't do it? I'm pretty sure you should accept it because they'll pay you... and then you have another plus of learning something new. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 How can you accept or decline a job when there hasn't been an offer made? Because i don't want to waste their time. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'm pretty sure you should accept it because they'll pay you... and then you have another plus of learning something new. Most companies don't have to train and want you to hit the ground running Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 But But Employers are known for interviewing candidates when the position 1. Doesn't exist 2. Already filled Isn't that the employer wasting someone's time? Employers often make mistakes or have policies that protect them from liability but that force them to interview more people than necessary. They are generally extremely busy people, so it's not likely they are just goofing around scheduling interviews for the hell of it. But assuming that you're right that they sometimes deliberately waste people's time, what does that have to do with how you choose to behave? Do you always adopt the standards of other people? What kind of person do you want to be? Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Here's a better version of my reply. Ignore the previous one, if you can. Employers often make mistakes, don't communicate well amongst internal groups, or have policies that protect them from liability but that force them to interview more people than necessary. They are generally extremely busy people, so it's not likely they are just goofing around scheduling interviews for the hell of it. But you should still treat them the way you would want to be treated. That seems to always be a good policy. People, even jerks, notice when you are fair with them, even though they might not be fair with you at first. They'll feel like they should shape up either for you or maybe for the next guys Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger Grant Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 There is no interview, the mayor just shutdown the city for Monday All of the advice given to you, can still be applied after the storm passes.If a company calls you at 4:58PM on any given day of the to tell you you've been hired, you should be ready to report to work the next morning. Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 What happens when you don't get the job you have a second interview for? I really don't care what % of qualified you are but it isn't a job offer. Why can't you understand that you should be open to every interview you are given? You have been unemployed for 10 months - when you do say enough is enough? -- looking for what you deserve is one thing but you are just being picky. What is so hard to get? I really don't know how a man in their 30s can't grasp this concept. You think people don't want better jobs. I am on my forth job this year - not because I got fired but because I take the time to find better jobs while being employed and in school full time , yes I had to take some crappy jobs inbetween but such is life. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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