Stung Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 I don't know about every single person but the general consensus agreed with me. The bartender who observes interactions all the time agrees with me plus my friends who I had with me. Sorry Woggle, but your earlier posts stated that the bartender looked to you like he was holding back laughter, and you assumed that meant he agreed with you. Isn't it possible that your friends, who presumably became your friends at least in part because they think like you and possibly because they have issues with women like you do (I could be wrong but I suspect it's likely because your issues with women preoccupy you to a tremendous degree), agreed with you? And you projected your understanding onto the bartender, because you assumed you knew what his laughter was about, just like you assume you know the women's intentions and motivations? If the 'general consensus' is a consensus of yourself and your friends, it's not necessarily an indication of objective fact.
Author Woggle Posted August 9, 2010 Author Posted August 9, 2010 My friends are people I have known since way back when and they were in town visiting last saturday. One of them is happily married so we don't bond over misogyny. I know this bartender because he is part owner and he said it after these women left. While they were there though he had to hold back the laughing because they were paying customers.
meerkat stew Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Woggle rarely makes long posts, I imagine there are omitted details that would make this thread less apt to being picked apart so harshly.
RecordProducer Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 The 3rd one was getting ignored and it was just burning at her soul. She looked depressed the entire night. She wanted the chance to have men fawn over and reject them in a snotty matter like her two friends. You sure know what she wanted! Interesting to see that you can't get over your hatred for women. Maybe the three girls should have talked and kissed every guy that approached them so as to not offend them. Guys who approach women in night clubs usually want sex... oh, poor little guys and how the bitches treated them... as far as I'm concerned, losers should not appraoch hot girls and waste their time.
Author Woggle Posted August 9, 2010 Author Posted August 9, 2010 It's funny how everybody who did not witness it first hand is arguing with my account. I know what I saw.
zengirl Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Why would you drop a bf for stating an opinion that he obviously believed was given honestly on his part? Do you just want to be in intimate relationships with untruthful people? It doesn't matter if you disagree that your gfs are ugly, that's a matter of opinion. You'll meet plenty of people in life who will lie to you at the drop of a hat. Next time don't be so quick to give short shrift to candor. Well, I didn't ask him anything about their looks, and it's rather rude to bring it up. I suppose it might be different had I said, "Hey, what do you think of so-and-so's looks?" I find it unattractive to go around calling random people ugly, especially the friends of someone you're trying to date. Also, shallow. Who cares if you're not attracted to them? Why would I want you to be attracted to my friends? I don't pick my friends based on physical beauty. I'm not against honesty. I am against blatant shallowness and unkindness. I'm not saying a fellow has to hit on my friends---but he can't just ignore them as people because he doesn't find them attractive. Being interested in me means being interested in my life, not just my looks. I bet you are dressed up too when you are at home alone by yourself. "I dress up just to feel good not for attention" is like the dumbest thing I hear from a woman. People look good in order to look good to others. People who say otherwise are lying. I don't dress up only for attention and do in fact wear cute things around the house, alone, sometimes. I buy cute pajamas too, and they never leave the house. And I wear them sleeping alone. So? I like cute stuff. There are certain things I do to look good to others (Honestly, mostly other women, rather than men), but there are also things I do for myself. Many women are the same way. Actually, I know men who have fun with fashion too and actually dress for themselves. It really depends. Also, you can dress for other women or for a general feeling of "Wow, I look good" rather than to have men throw themselves all over you. That happens a lot. I rarely dress for male attention, unless I'm going on a date.
Green Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 It's funny how everybody who did not witness it first hand is arguing with my account. I know what I saw. Every one is in denial about what goes on in social settings on a regular basis. The only reason your story is funny is because of how well it ilustrates the nature of many women. Women love to complain and reject guys but then when they are not getting hit on it puts them in a bad mood because they want to reject men to. I find your story very common place and see some version of it every time I go out. I'm also not suprised at what denial most people who post on this thread are because most people I know IRL are also in denial.
lab_brat Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 It's funny how everybody who did not witness it first hand is arguing with my account. I know what I saw. Honestly, i think it's more that we know you. I've only been on here for a year, but even i know that when it's a post or comment authored by you, it's going to be a story or anecdote about how horrible women are, because you hate women. It's just who you are.
lino Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) I bet those girls are also the type who say things like: 'I hate going to nightclubs, there are way too many sleazy guys there and they just won't leave you alone' ... Yet they're at a nightclub nearly every weekend. Plenty of those around! Edited August 9, 2010 by lino Forgot a letter.
Pyro Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 It's funny how everybody who did not witness it first hand is arguing with my account. I know what I saw. and its also well known on here that you see only what you choose to see. Any positives that you witness in women you either block out of your mind and/or purposely leave that info out of your posts.....probably due to the fact that it would contradict your personal biased feelings of women. Your feelings towards women are what tells the story, thus making your stories questionable at best.
Engadget Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 A couple friends from New York came in today and we were hanging out at this club having drinks and enjoying some good music. I saw a groupe of three women come in and two of them were getting a lot of male attention and pretty being snotty to any man that even look their way. You could tell they were getting a kick out of being as rude as possible to these guys. The 3rd one was getting ignored and it was just burning at her soul. She looked depressed the entire night. She wanted the chance to have men fawn over and reject them in a snotty matter like her two friends. My friends and I were just cracking up over this. Even the bartender looked like he was holding back laughter. I I went to Manhattan recently, and yeah the women are all like the first two you described. Dress up to look hot and then thumb their noses at anyone who looks, ugh.
Author Woggle Posted August 9, 2010 Author Posted August 9, 2010 Every one is in denial about what goes on in social settings on a regular basis. The only reason your story is funny is because of how well it ilustrates the nature of many women. Women love to complain and reject guys but then when they are not getting hit on it puts them in a bad mood because they want to reject men to. I find your story very common place and see some version of it every time I go out. I'm also not suprised at what denial most people who post on this thread are because most people I know IRL are also in denial. Thank you. People talk about the male ego but the female ego is just as bad and when it is not getting fed they become miserable. I think some people here are seriously naive to the ways of the world.
zengirl Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Thank you. People talk about the male ego but the female ego is just as bad and when it is not getting fed they become miserable. I think some people here are seriously naive to the ways of the world. All egos are ugly. But this story feeds your ego too, Woggle. It allows you to see how "right" you are about these nasty thoughts you have. Many men and women have lousy egos and use them to make their decisions and live their lives. That's a bummer.
SincereOnlineGuy Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I am not obsessing over it. I just happened to witness it and thought it was funny. Uh, noooooooooooooo, you thought it was "the funniest thing". Now there is no room remaining should something really funny happen in your vicinity.
InceptorsRule Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Thank you. People talk about the male ego but the female ego is just as bad and when it is not getting fed they become miserable. I think some people here are seriously naive to the ways of the world. Consider how b*tchy many of the women are on the internet, why would they doubt women at nightclubs behave the same way?
Pyro Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Uh, noooooooooooooo, you thought it was "the funniest thing". Now there is no room remaining should something really funny happen in your vicinity. aren't you aware that it causes Woggle severe physical pain to smile?
Author Woggle Posted August 10, 2010 Author Posted August 10, 2010 aren't you aware that it causes Woggle severe physical pain to smile? Then why am I smiling in my profile photo?
Pyro Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Then why am I smiling in my profile photo? anyone can edit photos online. That or you were on some wicked pain killers afterwards.
Crazy Magnet Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 OMG I saw the fuuuuuuuuuuuunniest thing today. I stared at the carpet...and there was a carpet fiber! *crickets chirping* Well it was as funny as the original story.
Rhythmic Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Is there a reason we should sympathise when a man feels socially excluded and depressed, but laugh when it happens to women? A reason other than misogyny, I mean? Funny you should mention this since the opposite happens all the time anyway. People sympathize when its a woman feeling spcially excluded and depressed who gets rejected by men all the time and there are tons of characters throughout media of the nerdy socially inept guy who tries to get the girl and gets rejected that is only there for comedy relief.
Taramere Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Funny you should mention this since the opposite happens all the time anyway. People sympathize when its a woman feeling spcially excluded and depressed who gets rejected by men all the time and there are tons of characters throughout media of the nerdy socially inept guy who tries to get the girl and gets rejected that is only there for comedy relief. Isn't that part of the dynamic Woggle finds so funny here? The men approaching the two hot women being the socially inept nerds who carried on fawning over these girls, instead of walking off, even when they were treated rudely by them. From the way he's describing it, those men doing the chat-up were on the same rung on the hierarchy as the ignored girl. They weren't considered to be attractive enough for the hot girls to take an interest in them, but apparently they lacked the awareness to realise that as they kept trying anyway. A female acquaintance of of mine, years ago, was pissed off that she wasn't getting attention from men in a club when everyone else was being asked to dance. It wasn't that she was unattractive; she was just too intense and demanding of attention - and it was putting men off. At one point I saw her approach a group of men and flirting very ostentatiously. They all stood there holding their pints and looking nervously at her. Then she sat on a chair and did some sort of flouncing "but I'm gorgeous! How can anyone not want me?" gesture and smiled seductively at them while they carried on looking mildly concerned. Now that was a woman getting rejected, but it was funny because it was of her response. When someone's pushing for attention like that, from someone else who isn't interested, there's a comedy about it precisely because of that lack of self awareness. Like the nerdy guy who's filled with confidence that he's the man and that the most beautiful woman in the room should be thrilled to be approached by him. It feels safe to laugh when someone like that is being rejected, because either they've got this unshakeable self belief that there's something wrong with anyone who doesn't want them - or they're able to pull off the impression of having that self belief. Either way, you know they're going to be okay. When it's someone who doesn't really rate themselves, but is making the effort to interact with the opposite sex (a shy woman going out to a club with her more outgoing friends, or a shy bloke approaching a woman who looks similarly shy and quiet) I don't think it's funny when they get rebuffed, rejected or ignored. It's what someone like that expects to happen. If you've got empathy then whether they're male or female you'll feel badly for them. Woggle lacks empathy for women, and he looks for reasons to justify it. That's very obviously what he's doing here. He wants to laugh at someone who's on the losing side, but he wants to feel okay about himself while he does it.
Katie29 Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 OMG I saw the fuuuuuuuuuuuunniest thing today. I stared at the carpet...and there was a carpet fiber! *crickets chirping* Well it was as funny as the original story. this made me fall laughing!
Katie29 Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I go out once a week to a club to dance with friends. I could care less if someone thinks I'm a "snob" I'm there to dance and hang with the girls. Some guys can't take a hint, and take a walk. If I have to get nasty to make a clinger go away, I do. Plain and simple.
Author Woggle Posted August 10, 2010 Author Posted August 10, 2010 Why would I feel sympathy for a woman that just wanted to be snotty and nasty to men like her friends? I don't lack empathy for all women but I do think most women lack empathy for men in general.
Katie29 Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Why would I feel sympathy for a woman that just wanted to be snotty and nasty to men like her friends? I don't lack empathy for all women but I do think most women lack empathy for men in general. I have a feeling you have been rejected a lot and thats why you are so hostile...just a thought..
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