Sex Without Emotion for Women - Is it possible?

[libkur]

When I'm lusting, I just want sex and feel no regret. It's bad that people judge a woman who likes sex. Men do it, men masturbate to sexy woman doing all sorts of things.

So what if we go out and have casual sex sometimes? We're human, we have urges. Sex feels a lot better than masturbation, and if we're safe and know it won't mentally damage us, what is the problem?

 

Take your Christian morals and get out.

[Twenty-ten]

Here's a thought for all the protectors of macho lechery:

 

Instead of fighting for your sexual prowess tooth and claw, in an attempt to preserve a monopoly on promiscuity, why don't you lead by example if what you want is women who respect themselves sexually? Show us how YOU can respect yourselves, women have been asking for this for centuries to no avail because "boys will be boys", and women would have a great role model and motivation to not want change.

 

But that's not what you want, you just want to be able to objectify women and then spit on them and walk away on your quest for your virgin mail order bride, who has been poked by every man in sight in her own country but she is more than likely going to lie to you, much like you lie to women about your own sexual conquests.

[Twenty-ten]

 

So if you have a daughter you will advise her to be a slut? Tell her to bang guys with no feelings attached? Another reason not to marry an American woman.

 

 

Pretty nuts if a mother were do that to her daughter. Yet fathers do that with their sons all the time, but of course that's cool, that's accepted and even encouraged. It's delicious for men to sleep around.

[Woggle]

Here's a thought for all the protectors of macho lechery:

 

Instead of fighting for your sexual prowess tooth and claw, in an attempt to preserve a monopoly on promiscuity, why don't you lead by example if what you want is women who respect themselves sexually? Show us how YOU can respect yourselves, women have been asking for this for centuries to no avail because "boys will be boys", and women would have a great role model and motivation to not want change.

 

But that's not what you want, you just want to be able to objectify women and then spit on them and walk away on your quest for your virgin mail order bride, who has been poked by every man in sight in her own country but she is more than likely going to lie to you, much like you lie to women about your own sexual conquests.

 

 

What did a man do to you to make you hate us so much?

[stillafool]

So if you have a daughter you will advise her to be a slut? Tell her to bang guys with no feelings attached? Another reason not to marry an American woman.

 

Are you going to advise your son to have sex before he marries or to wait until he finds a virgin wife?

 

It shows how easily women become brainwashed.. Statistically far more women are depressed today than decades ago.. But you can now work, pay your own bills, pay for dates, live loveless lives, and have empty sex while you grow old with cats and a few STDS.. And you are happy about this?

 

I'll bet the majority of these depressed women are married.

[meerkat stew]

Now you see how ridiculous men sound when they boast about how many notches they have on their belts.

 

Obviously men lie about it! Do you think women are stupid enough to think men are sluts and don't down play it? We know you do.

 

So slutty and compulsive liars. Awesome!

 

 

So when you state that "men sound ridiculous when they boast about sex"

 

and I reply with "men who get sex don't boast."

 

and you reply with "men lie, we know you downplay it."

 

does it even cross your mind how inconsistent your stereotypes are? I mean if you are going to stereotype, at least make it somewhat believable.

 

In one instant, you are chiding men for bragging about getting sex, and in the next instant, you are calling us liars for not bragging about getting sex. Care to choose one? Either we boast about getting sex or we lie about not getting as much sex as we actually do, which bogus generalization do you want to stick with?

 

Or are you operating from female logicorationalization land where both can exist at the same time? If that's indeed the case, you are proving everything I've posted in this thread each and every time you open your mouth.

[calizaggy]

I do wonder what women really prefer..

 

Something similar to A or B?

 

A.. Man meets and respects you. Plans dates.. Gets to know you. Chivilarous, protective, respectful..Loves, and makes love to you.

 

B. Woman plans and pays for dates, man wants quick emotionless sex with woman, and expects it quickly. Mutual getting off with different people all the time.. Men view you as nothing more than a hole.

 

The problem is when more and more women become sluts, unfortunately men will start to drift towards expecting that, and "making love" will be a thing of the past.

 

People are not telling men to screw women with no feelings, it is in our male DNA. As in my virgin example, boys are in a hurry to have sex.. Nobody told them to, it is natural. They are not connecting this sex to love. That is also natural.

[Twenty-ten]

So when you state that "men sound ridiculous when they boast about sex"

 

and I reply with "men who get sex don't boast."

 

and you reply with "men lie, we know you downplay it."

 

does it even cross your mind how inconsistent your stereotypes are? I mean if you are going to stereotype, at least make it somewhat believable.

 

In one instant, you are chiding men for bragging about getting sex, and in the next instant, you are calling us liars for not bragging about getting sex. Care to choose one? Either we boast about getting sex or we lie about not getting as much sex as we actually do, which bogus generalization do you want to stick with?

 

Or are you operating from female logicorationalization land where both can exist at the same time? If that's indeed the case, you are proving everything I've posted in this thread each and every time you open your mouth.

 

If you type write with your mouth that would explain a lot. Unlike you, I don't use my mouth to write, just so you know....

 

The only time men don't brag about who they are sleeping with is when they are infront of the woman who's pants they want to get into. Otherwise it is a known fact that men brag about their sex-capades, high five one another after each conquest, make movies about being popular for being sluts, write songs and books on how to become bigger sluts, and have hard-ons for one another and hand out rhetorical badges of honour when a guy can get a woman to sleep with him effortlessly and with no courting contributions on his part.

 

So spare me on the semantics, you knew full well what I meant, and if you didn't now you do.

[meerkat stew]

Instead of fighting for your sexual prowess tooth and claw, in an attempt to preserve a monopoly on promiscuity, why don't you lead by example if what you want is women who respect themselves sexually? Show us how YOU can respect yourselves, women have been asking for this for centuries to no avail because "boys will be boys", and women would have a great role model and motivation to not want change.

 

Women haven't been asking for anything for centuries other than to be taken care of by men because they were incapable of surviving on their own. The minute this state of affairs changes in the 20th century, let the rewriting of history into some fictional struggle against male oppression begin. Rewriting didn't work that well for Stalin or the communists generally, we shall see sometime in the intermediate future how well it works for you and your ilk.

 

But on to your stereotype. Most men do respect themselves sexually. Have turned down much more sex in my life than I have taken, due to various reasons, as have many of my male friends, despite the fact that it is infinitely harder for men to obtain sex than women.

 

The men who don't respect themselves sexually are generally addicts, young and immature or "lucky" members of the top 5% club that all you female members of the top 70% club throw yourselves at so freely and whorishly until you finally realize one day that something about the math of that pursuit just doesn't work out in your favor or forward your agenda. Then you switch gears and expect to be taken seriously.

 

Even if the above were not the case, claiming that a man, who has little control over which of his efforts towards sex will yield results, to a woman, who has almost complete control over when and how often she has sex, in terms of trying to equate "sexual self-respect" between the genders is laughably ignorant, as much as it has been repeated in this thread, and as much as this simple fact I have just typed has been ignored in this thread. Continue ignoring this fact, won't change the truth of it.

[meerkat stew]

If you type write with your mouth that would explain a lot. Unlike you, I don't use my mouth to write, just so you know....

 

And apparently you don't use your brain to grasp simple metaphorical compositional devices either.

 

The only time men don't brag about who they are sleeping with is when they are infront of the woman who's pants they want to get into. Otherwise it is a known fact that men brag about their sex-capades, high five one another after each conquest, make movies about being popular for being sluts, write songs and books on how to become bigger sluts, and have hard-ons for one another and hand out rhetorical badges of honour when a guy can get a woman to sleep with him effortlessly and with no courting contributions on his part.

 

Did you get this from television? or from the movies? Unlike women, who never seem to tire of gloating to each other about anything from their children's specialness, to the size of their engagement rings, men generally tire of such gloating, both of speaking it and hearing it, sometime around their realization that sex does not define us as men. We continue to make nasty jokes or tell funny stories for the duration, but those are not motivated in the least by gloating, but by the perversities of the male sense of humor. That's usually sometime in the early twenties if not before. So go back to whatever lame tv show or movies you get your stereotypes from and let the adults continue talking.

 

So spare me on the semantics, you knew full well what I meant, and if you didn't now you do.

 

Semantics and logic are two different things, your grasp of both is tenuous in extreme. Par for the course though.

[calizaggy]

The only time men don't brag about who they are sleeping with is when they are infront of the woman who's pants they want to get into. Otherwise it is a known fact that men brag about their sex-capades, high five one another after each conquest, make movies about being popular for being sluts, write songs and books on how to become bigger sluts, and have hard-ons for one another and hand out rhetorical badges of honour when a guy can get a woman to sleep with him effortlessly and with no courting contributions on his part.

 

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As for the bold part most men are embarassed to sleep with such sluts.. Buddies would say something like "dude, I hope you wore 2 rubbers"

 

I have never high fived a guy in my life over getting laid, nor do we spend much time sharing stories..

[Ruby Slippers]

The assumptions in this thread are astounding, and I've still only found time to skim it.

 

The thing I always find so hilarious is that men will, on the one hand, revel in all the hot new skin on their computer screen night after night, and then, on the other, act shocked and disgusted to learn that more women are behaving more like "sluts".

 

Hello? Exactly who do you think is doing all this f*cking? Men and WOMEN. Hundreds and hundreds of new cootchies for your browsing pleasure every night... they gotta belong to somebody! Some of them might be sitting next to you in lecture hall, working across the cubicle, giving you a haircut.

 

Sex is glorified and celebrated -- and cheapened -- at every turn in this wasteland of a society. Did anyone notice how much slapping of women and extremely sexualized behavior in general and overt porn imagery was ALL OVER the Super Bowl ads? It was absolutely staggering.

 

You don't get a barnyard of hot f*ck bunnies by night and a shining monument of virginity by day. The math just doesn't add up.

[meerkat stew]

You don't get a barnyard of hot f*ck bunnies by night and a shining monument of virginity by day. The math just doesn't add up.

 

Nor does the math of being expected to keep up social customs advantageous to women and costly to men, such as paying for dates, etc., that presume that a lady, and not some FWB's hot f*ck bunny, is sitting across the table.

[Twenty-ten]

 

The problem is when more and more women become sluts, unfortunately men will start to drift towards expecting that, and "making love" will be a thing of the past.

 

That is the most sensible thing you have said so far. Not that you are not entitled to your opinions but that does make sense from a strictly rational stand point.

 

 

People are not telling men to screw women with no feelings, it is in our male DNA. As in my virgin example, boys are in a hurry to have sex.. Nobody told them to, it is natural. They are not connecting this sex to love. That is also natural.

 

And cue the circus music:

Ok now we are back to silly things, teenage boys feel no pressure at all to have sex? Society does not pressure boys to lose their virginity the quicker the better? Is that what you are trying to tell us here?

 

No one tells them they should be getting laid at 15 they just just ride their own hormonal feelings? You don't think teenage girls have their hormones acting up as well at this very same stage of sexual discovery? But women are told don't you will be slut while boys are told go ahead you will be a stud!

 

 

Women haven't been asking for anything for centuries other than to be taken care of by men because they were incapable of surviving on their own. The minute this state of affairs changes in the 20th century, let the rewriting of history into some fictional struggle against male oppression begin. Rewriting didn't work that well for Stalin or the communists generally, we shall see sometime in the intermediate future how well it works for you and your ilk.

 

Women have been asking for it the problem is that women up until the last century didn't really have a voice, women were to be seen and not heard. Surely the idea that women want men who are more selective and less promiscuous isn't a novice concept for you. The fact you selectively (and I do stress that word because it does take a great deal of selective hearing) fail to hear women is just an extension of what you seem to do when you berate women who you don't agree with and resort to personal insults.

 

But on to your stereotype. Most men do respect themselves sexually. Have turned down much more sex in my life than I have taken, due to various reasons, as have many of my male friends, despite the fact that it is infinitely harder for men to obtain sex than women.

 

Ok here's a bone for all the men who refused to sleep with some fatty or horse face that didn't do it for them.

 

The only reason it's harder for men to abstain from sex is because it is ingrained in their heads from a very young age that lots of meaningless sex = self-progress.

 

The men who don't respect themselves sexually are generally addicts, young and immature or "lucky" members of the top 5% club that all you female members of the top 70% club throw yourselves at so freely and whorishly until you finally realize one day that something about the math of that pursuit just doesn't work out in your favor or forward your agenda. Then you switch gears and expect to be taken seriously.

 

No the men who don't respect themselves are the ones trolling internet sites looking for some messed up woman who invites men into her home in the middle of the night and the ones who sit on the sidelines high-fiving those who do this. So those two acts pretty much encompasses a huge chunk of the male population.

 

Even if the above were not the case, claiming that a man, who has little control over which of his efforts towards sex will yield results, to a woman, who has almost complete control over when and how often she has sex, in terms of trying to equate "sexual self-respect" between the genders is laughably ignorant, as much as it has been repeated in this thread, and as much as this simple fact I have just typed has been ignored in this thread. Continue ignoring this fact, won't change the truth of it.

 

I am going to ignore that too simply because it didn't make sense. So care to explain that better?

[Twenty-ten]

Unlike women, who never seem to tire of gloating to each other about anything from their children's specialness,

 

!!!!!

 

Are you for real? I have to stop right here because are you SERIOUSLY going to compare a mother gloating about her children, HER CHILDREN!! The purity of emotion that a mother feels for her own flesh and blood and pride and joy, to the cheap gloating men do when they use and spit the same women who they find good enough to screw but not good enough to respect even verbally?

 

Ok you've lost the plot.

[Woggle]

So if men are so horrible when they do this aren't women just as horrible or is it payback tiome according to you even if a man has done nothing but respect women his entire life?

[calizaggy]

No the men who don't respect themselves are the ones trolling internet sites looking for some messed up woman who invites men into her home in the middle of the night and the ones who sit on the sidelines high-fiving those who do this.

 

Thank you... What I have been saying this whole time.. Most of the women that have casual non emotional sex are MESSED UP. However you lost me with the high fives again. Was that in American Pie?

 

So a woman makes one egg a month, and a man makes millions of sperm a day, yet we are identical sexually except for social constructs?

 

Find a guy who beds lots of women and typically he is rich, successful, intelligent, athletic, charismatic, etc.. He is what women want.

 

Find a woman that beds lots of men with no emotions and typically she is ugly, fat, or psycho.. Not what men want..

[Twenty-ten]

We continue to make nasty jokes or tell funny stories for the duration, but those are not motivated in the least by gloating, but by the perversities of the male sense of humor.

Yes I know that one all too well the old "it was just a joke" when a man has found himself between a rock and a hard place. Classic! I love that one, "it was just jokes"

 

Yeah well when women say they want to sleep with men with no strings attached it's just jokes too.

[Twenty-ten]

Thank you... What I have been saying this whole time.. Most of the women that have casual non emotional sex are MESSED UP. However you lost me with the high fives again. Was that in American Pie?

 

I never said that. I gave a specific example of some woman who is trolling for men online and invites him back into her home the same night. That is not even close to a woman wanting no strings sex with a guy she carefully chooses. Stop changing my words.

 

And where did I see that? I saw that HERE on LS, a few weeks ago there was a thread about that very thing and a bunch of men on here virtually high-fiving the guy who did this. I am sure you would he right in there too, because it is in your DNA to be a man slut therefore it is ok.

 

 

Find a guy who beds lots of women and typically he is rich, successful, intelligent, athletic, charismatic, etc.. He is what women want.

 

He is still a himbo, no matter how you slice it. The only way a woman will not see him like that is if he lies to her about it, and most men do, so women can lie to men too about their promiscuity, no harm done.

[meerkat stew]

Women have been asking for it the problem is that women up until the last century didn't really have a voice, women were to be seen and not heard.

 

Your "un-grasp" of history is truly amazing. Until the last century, or rather a bit before, all people who weren't aristocrats were to be seen and not heard, women had it no worse than men, and probably some better, as they escaped much of the carnage of the industrial revolution, reaping mostly benefits while average men died early deaths in droves. Women were overworked, but the most dangerous labor fell to men exclusively.

 

My great grandparents would laugh if they could at the assertion that American life was ever "women should be seen and not heard." Hilarious.

 

Ok here's a bone for all the men who refused to sleep with some fatty or horse face that didn't do it for them.

 

Usually, my reasons for turning down women have little to do with looks, I don't let those situations get out of the starting gate, but rather result from their stupidity, which usually takes a little while to emerge, unless you are lucky enough to get a writing sample;). The concept of "hate f*cking" stupid women never caught on with me for some reason. Better to just move on to more wrinkly brains.

 

The only reason it's harder for men to abstain from sex is because it is ingrained in their heads from a very young age that lots of meaningless sex = self-progress.

 

More TV and Hollywood nonsense, maybe some Cosmo thrown in for good measure. Are you going to eventually come up with a stereotype that is valid in its essence? Good ones are you know.

 

No the men who don't respect themselves are the ones trolling internet sites looking for some messed up woman who invites men into her home in the middle of the night and the ones who sit on the sidelines high-fiving those who do this. So those two acts pretty much encompasses a huge chunk of the male population.

 

So because she is open to casual sex, it makes her necessarily "messed up?" Let me get this right, because it is important to the thread. Are you saying that any man who looks for casual sex doesn't respect himself? and more importantly, any woman who seeks casual sex is "messed up?"

 

We already dealt with the high-fiving hocum, keep watching those shows and movies!

 

 

I am going to ignore that too simply because it didn't make sense. So care to explain that better?

 

It makes perfect clear sense, but I did leave out the word "compares" in front of the first occurence of the word "woman." Would think a child could make sense of what I typed even with that missing word though.

[calizaggy]

Himbo? What? lol.. Virtual high fives?

 

Women love ALPHA males. They KNOW he banged lots of women. ..Men do not love sluts..

 

You could have simply said "Some woman invites a guy over to her home", but you correctly knew she must be MESSED UP.

[Twenty-ten]

So if men are so horrible when they do this aren't women just as horrible or is it payback tiome according to you even if a man has done nothing but respect women his entire life?

 

Men are not so horrible, women who sleep around according to some of you men are horrible. I am just drawing the parallel of their own standards. So if women are horrible for doing that then that must mean men are too, by men's own admission, not mine. I think that question is better suited for them who call women who have casual sex worthless sluts.

 

If a man has done nothing but respect women his entire life and had a good radar for choosing healthy relationships he will end up with a decent woman if that is what he wants. I truly believe that. For both genders in fact.

[meerkat stew]

!!!!!

 

Are you for real? I have to stop right here because are you SERIOUSLY going to compare a mother gloating about her children, HER CHILDREN!! The purity of emotion that a mother feels for her own flesh and blood and pride and joy, to the cheap gloating men do when they use and spit the same women who they find good enough to screw but not good enough to respect even verbally?

 

Ok you've lost the plot.

 

Spare me the faux moral outrage, though it is funny in its transparency and how effortlessly women will "don't go there" anything to do with the sacred cows that children and child-bearing have become in western society that has more than it needs of both institutions. You lost the "gloating point" resoundingly, give it a rest.

[Twenty-ten]

 

You could have simply said "Some woman invites a guy over to her home", but you correctly knew she must be MESSED UP.

 

 

No the messed up part is sitting in front of a computer and inviting strange men you have never met before to your house for sex. That is messed up on many levels. For starters it is the single most dangerous thing a woman can do. The man who lends himself to that situation is no better, for all you know there could be three very big leather-bound "bears" waiting to sodomize you on the other side. THAT is what is so messed up about it.

Well that an all the STDs you are BOTH exposing yourselves to since trolling online for sex means you do this often, a one night stand or a hook up can happen once in a lifetime and never again.

 

If a woman meets a guy and feels a good vibe and enjoys his company feels like she wants to have sex with him that's different, men do that all the time, yet it's totally fine and no one gives it a second thought.

[Woggle]

Men are not so horrible, women who sleep around according to some of you men are horrible. I am just drawing the parallel of their own standards. So if women are horrible for doing that then that must mean men are too, by men's own admission, not mine. I think that question is better suited for them who call women who have casual sex worthless sluts.

 

If a man has done nothing but respect women his entire life and had a good radar for choosing healthy relationships he will end up with a decent woman if that is what he wants. I truly believe that. For both genders in fact.

 

You are making it sound the same way my two coworkers do when they say men deserve to get cheated on because it just evening the score.

 

Until recently I have done nothing but respect women my entire life but all I got for it is grief and hardship and for women to say I deserved that because of something I had nothing to do with truly makes my blood boil. To be honest you are coming across as a manhater even if that is not what you truly are.