Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Posted September 18, 2009 Lb, I wouldn't call for at least another week, since your interviewer mentioned that the decision would be in a few weeks. It's only been ten days since your interview and "few" denotes greater than two weeks. When I used to hire staff, it would drive me nuts when people would call previous to defined decision time. Just my opinion though. Good luck in your job search! Thanks great advice. You are right that he did say a few weeks however he told me they are hoping to have someone hired by this week. I suppose hoping doesnt mean that it will neccessarily happen though. I havent received any kind of letter saying that they filled the position so I am guessing that are still trying to make decision.
Star Gazer Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Absolutely call. If they're on the fence between you and someone else, who do you think they'll be more inclined to hire? The one who clearly really wants the job (you - which you show by calling to follow up), or one who hasn't said a peep? Even if they're easily annoyed by follow-up calls, doing so won't cause them to NOT hire you. So yeah, call. You did send a thank you note after the interview, right?
curiousnycgirl Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I agree with Star on this one. Go for it.
anne1707 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I would say call - it shows interest and enthusiasm. Just be professional yet relaxed (if you get my drift) when you call - e.g. wondering if you have made your decision, if not is there anything I could clarify - but do not interrogate
Lishy Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 My job is hiring people and when people call me after to thank me or to ask me what the result was it annoys me Maybe it is just me but calling will make you look pushy My advice is dont call
TwinkletOes26 Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 I have read several job hunting articles that say call and if they get annoyed or dont ever get back to you then it is a reflection on them and the type of workplace environment it actually is. So you have several people here and several articles that say call.
allina Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 I guess I'm alone on this one but I like e-mailing. If you have the person's card who interviewed you I would email them. Say something like "I enjoyed our meeting last Monday, thank you for your time. I hope to hear back from you shortly as I think this position is an ideal fit for me. Please feel free to contact me should you have any further questions for me. Thanks again." I like follow up e-mails much more than calls. Usually when people call me I'm in the middle of a million different things and it's more of a nuisance. When I've seen a lot of people I don't remember which is which by name and have to refer back to my notes and so on. By e-mailing you give the person time to reflect back on who you are and put some time in to, instead of being like "ok sure no problem" and trying to get off the phone as quickly as possible.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 19, 2009 Author Posted September 19, 2009 I guess I'm alone on this one but I like e-mailing. If you have the person's card who interviewed you I would email them. Say something like "I enjoyed our meeting last Monday, thank you for your time. I hope to hear back from you shortly as I think this position is an ideal fit for me. Please feel free to contact me should you have any further questions for me. Thanks again." I like follow up e-mails much more than calls. Usually when people call me I'm in the middle of a million different things and it's more of a nuisance. When I've seen a lot of people I don't remember which is which by name and have to refer back to my notes and so on. By e-mailing you give the person time to reflect back on who you are and put some time in to, instead of being like "ok sure no problem" and trying to get off the phone as quickly as possible. Yeah, I felt the exact same way so that's why I figured to email this guy a thank you response after our meeting. He told me he was going out of town so I figured he wouldn't be in his office but assumed he'd have his blackberry with him to receive the email. And I was right, he emailed me back right away the day of the interview. Now I am nervous about making another phone call because I don't want to bug him. He is the clinical director so he travels all the time and I'm guessing I will just end up getting his voicemail and he will not return my call. It hasn't been quite two weeks and I haven't gotten a rejection letter so I think I'm going to hang in there...
Art_Critic Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 LB.. that one email is enough and prefect, don't go overboard and paint yourself in a negative light with the guy. The first email painted you in a positive light. Nothing is worse than giving a bunch of interviews and only a few respond the next day with a nice professional email, it always makes me feel like the ones who emailed went the extra mile and the others didn't, so don't ruin that good feeling you have given him of yourself. There wouldn't be anything wrong with sending another follow up email on down the road but only after the time he told you the position will be filled in has passed. So.. right now the ball is in his court...
Trialbyfire Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Yes, leave it at the one email. If someone wants you as an employee, they'll follow-up. Budgets can also affect timing, in that if the budget suddenly gets cut, while they still want you and are working on getting the budget to do so, persistence isn't going to increase your chances for getting a job. No money, no hire. As you can tell, I'm thinking about a prior experience, shoe on the other foot of being the person hiring. Another prior experience was someone who kept coming back, even though they were told that the position was filled. They never did get hired, even though fairly soon after, another position came up.
sb129 Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 I was once in the fortunate position of being offered one job (which was my second choice) while awaiting to hear the results of the interview for my first choice job. I called the HR manager and said that I had been offered another job however I would really prefer to work for them, and was there any chance of finding out their decision before the response deadline for the second job passed. It was quite a gamble, but it paid off, I got the job I wanted. It was in a small industry though where everyone knew everyone else, so I wouldn't have been able to pull it off by making things up. I like the email idea LB- its to the point and has a good tone.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 So I went to an interview today and the position is okay. I did well at the interview I think, they actually did ask why I left my other job. I gave a well thought out response and they seemed to be okay with that. They told me they would get back to me in a week. I would prefer to take the other job though, so I'm wondering if I should call or email this guy back to find out about the status of the job in case I do get a job offer. Tommorrow will be 2 weeks since my interview. Should I call or would an email be good enough?
Star Gazer Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 So I went to an interview today and the position is okay. I did well at the interview I think, they actually did ask why I left my other job. I gave a well thought out response and they seemed to be okay with that. They told me they would get back to me in a week. I would prefer to take the other job though, so I'm wondering if I should call or email this guy back to find out about the status of the job in case I do get a job offer. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks since my interview. Should I call or would an email be good enough? You're putting the cart before the horse. You don't have a job offer yet. Wait and see if you receive an offer from today's interview. If they do, you don't have to give them an answer right away. Tell them you'd like 24 hours to think about it. Then do as SB did (see the post immediately above yours), and CALL the employer you really want to work for and explain the situation and why an update on their process would be helpful.
sb129 Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 LB- DON'T, repeat DON"T do what I did unless you actually have a job offer. I didn't lie- I just used the situation to my advantage. Lying has a nasty way of coming back to bite you in the butt....esp where employment is concerned.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 LB- DON'T, repeat DON"T do what I did unless you actually have a job offer. I didn't lie- I just used the situation to my advantage. Lying has a nasty way of coming back to bite you in the butt....esp where employment is concerned. I called and just asked the guy what the status of the job was. I didn't say anything about job offers or anything (nor was I planning to). He told me they are actually still interviewing, their last interview is going to be on Wednesday. He left it by saying he would call me on Wednesday. You'd think he'd need more time than that to decide after interviewing everyone...
Star Gazer Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 He told me they are actually still interviewing, their last interview is going to be on Wednesday. He left it by saying he would call me on Wednesday. You'd think he'd need more time than that to decide after interviewing everyone... I think that was a Freudian slip. He can't tell you he's going to go with someone else, before he's even interviewed them... but that's what he was thinking. What's so bad about the job you interviewed for today? Is money tight-tight? Can you hold out for a job you really want, or are you going to have to take anything just to stay afloat? I hope it's the former.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 I think that was a Freudian slip. He can't tell you he's going to go with someone else, before he's even interviewed them... but that's what he was thinking. What do you mean? He said he was going to call on Wednesday after he'd given the last person the interview. What's so bad about the job you interviewed for today? Well, the counselors don't get computers so everything is hand written(notes and all). Writing out tons of group notes will get old pretty quickly. I can type really fast so I get work done faster if it's computerized. Nothing is really TOO bad about it though, actually it is another methadone clinic so that gives me an advantage since I just worked at one. Is money tight-tight? Can you hold out for a job you really want, or are you going to have to take anything just to stay afloat? I hope it's the former. Fiance makes enough to support us for right now, we won't run out of money. I will hopefully get approved for the unemployment for the time that I have been out of work also which will help. I applied to a ton of places so I may get more interviews but I don't want to wait around forever. I hate being unemployed, I'm unbelievably bored right now. If this place offers me the job in a week I'm not sure what I would do.
Trialbyfire Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 I called and just asked the guy what the status of the job was. I didn't say anything about job offers or anything (nor was I planning to). He told me they are actually still interviewing, their last interview is going to be on Wednesday. He left it by saying he would call me on Wednesday. You'd think he'd need more time than that to decide after interviewing everyone...Not really. The interview process can be long and arduous, whereby if you have a long list of interviewees, you have to continue on interviewing them, even if you've already been impressed by one particular candidate or have already short listed a few candidates. Just relax. If they select you, that would be awesome. If not, you've just gone through another positive interview today.
Star Gazer Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 What do you mean? He said he was going to call on Wednesday after he'd given the last person the interview. He'll call ON Wednesday, or AFTER Wednesday? If ON Wednesday, I doubt after all that interviewing that he's going to be able to make an immediate decision and choose you (or anyone, for that matter). Thus, if he's going to call you as soon as the interviews are over, my guess would be that he's going to tell you that they've decided to select someone else. In other words, he already knows that you're not the selected candidate, but cannot say that they're selecting someone else until the interview process is complete. If he said he'll call you sometime AFTER Wednesday, then forget everything I said. I hope I'm wrong, but that's how I read that response. Well, the counselors don't get computers so everything is hand written(notes and all). Writing out tons of group notes will get old pretty quickly. I can type really fast so I get work done faster if it's computerized. Nothing is really TOO bad about it though, actually it is another methadone clinic so that gives me an advantage since I just worked at one. I guess I don't understand the day-in and day-out duties of your job. Don't counselors (and even physicians) take hand written notes in the file contemporaneously, as the client/patient relates what they're going through? If I were a meth addict or something I think I'd feel a little put off if my counselor was hovering over a laptop to take notes about what I was going through... Beyond that, it's the TYPE of work you want to do? With the kind of patients/atmosphere you're looking for? I wish my firm were more high-tech too, but you gotta compromise somewhere. Fiance makes enough to support us for right now, we won't run out of money. I will hopefully get approved for the unemployment for the time that I have been out of work also which will help. I applied to a ton of places so I may get more interviews but I don't want to wait around forever. I hate being unemployed, I'm unbelievably bored right now. If this place offers me the job in a week I'm not sure what I would do. You're lucky that you two have a $$-cushion. You should get unemployment benefits retroactively, from the date of your termination... so that will help too. Are there other areas within counseling you'd be interested in? Don't limit yourself to what your direct experience is. I'm sure plenty of your skills are transferable to other environments. Good luck, LB!
curiousnycgirl Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 I think that was a Freudian slip. He can't tell you he's going to go with someone else, before he's even interviewed them... but that's what he was thinking. I don't think that is necessarily true - he cannot give an answer before he has given all candidates a chance. I don't think it means LB is out of the running, if anything I think the opposite. If she was not still a candidate - it would have been easier to just say that to her today and never have to speak with her again. Keeping my fingers crossed!
Star Gazer Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 I don't think that is necessarily true - he cannot give an answer before he has given all candidates a chance. I don't think it means LB is out of the running, if anything I think the opposite. If she was not still a candidate - it would have been easier to just say that to her today and never have to speak with her again. That's definitely true too. Hmm. I guess that's just how I would have interpreted it if he said he'd call as soon as he finished. I DO think it was a good thing that you called though, LB. Now he really knows that you're really interested in this job, which is another point in your favor! Keeping my fingers crossed! As am I!
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 That's definitely true too. Hmm. I guess that's just how I would have interpreted it if he said he'd call as soon as he finished. I DO think it was a good thing that you called though, LB. Now he really knows that you're really interested in this job, which is another point in your favor! Thanks! I was actually thinking the same thing, that he could have just told me they already had somebody they wanted or told me I didn't get it or anything. The thing about the notes is (at least at my last job) is that the note itself corresponded to the treatment plan which was on the computer. So what we did was just type in the notes for each goal that the client had on the treatment plan. I can type so fast that most of the time I would just do it while I was sitting here with the client instead of take notes. I can type a lot faster than I can write so that benefited me. BUT if I have to hand write notes it's not the end of the world I suppose. I applied to tons of different jobs in counseling: mental health, D & A, adolescent and family therapy. I applied for a treatment team supervisor also, the requirement only said masters degree and 1-2 years experience required so I guess I'm qualified even though I've never been a supervisor.
Star Gazer Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Anxious... I actually got to work today, and thought of you. It's going to feel like a long day, waiting for his call. I suggest getting out and doing something to keep your mind off the wait.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 23, 2009 Author Posted September 23, 2009 I actually got to work today, and thought of you. It's going to feel like a long day, waiting for his call. I suggest getting out and doing something to keep your mind off the wait. Yeah I know! The G-20 summitt thing is here so they blocked off half the city. Unfortunately there aren't too many places to go but I definately have to find somewhere especially since fiance went to D.C. for an accounting conference. Ugh!!!!
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