Hi, this is my first post!

[Tomcat33]

I can not believe you are stating that it's a fact that longterm relationship sex gets boring. OMG you must really suck in bed that you actually believe it's a fact. Maybe because you have been toyed with with sex and we all know toys get boring. Love and being in love and expressing that with sex is not boring nor predictable. Guess you've never been in love before.

 

 

Yes I am making it up, I suck in bed, Im a terrible lover and that's how I come to the conclusions that I do.

 

Any more assumptions you care to make about me?

 

Hey here is good assumption for you, if being marriage material is a real prize and it takes "special women" to marry, is getting "f#$%d up the butt when your H cheats on you, part of the whole bieng worthy and all that?

 

LOL you really do think your worth is summed up in being accepted by society to be part of the institution club?

You poor thing.....

[2sunny]

Lizzie-

 

Just a curious question...

 

Did you and pulse come here from another site or something? Almost the same day you both signed up... just wondering.

[Lizzie60]

Lizzie - my dear -

 

my 20 year marriage had THE MOST amazing sex...

 

we did it almost every day and sometimes 2-3 times a day...

 

it was never boring... so I don't know where you are making presumptions like you are!

 

You need to re-read my post... I said 'MOST'... I guess you are the exception...LOL but you said : HAD/DID (I guess you're not with him anymore). There are always some exceptions.

[greengoddess]

Yes I am making it up, I suck in bed, Im a terrible lover and that's how I come to the conclusions that I do.

 

Any more assumptions you care to make about me?

 

Hey here is good assumption for you, if being marriage material is a real prize and it takes "special women" to marry, is getting "f#$%d up the butt when your H cheats on you, part of the whole bieng worthy and all that?

 

LOL you really do think your worth is summed up in being accepted by society to be part of the institution club?

You poor thing.....

 

 

uh ohh someone sounds a little bitter. Back to that classy language again I see. Real women do not speak like that dear. Maybe a little ettiquette class may help you.

[Lizzie60]

Lizzie-

 

Just a curious question...

 

Did you and pulse come here from another site or something? Almost the same day you both signed up... just wondering.

 

I don't know anyone here.

[greengoddess]

Marriage is only a piece of paper!

 

I never wanted to marry... the second one asked me... I said no; the first one was divorced and after 18 years it's just the same... legally.

Marriage is much more than just a piece of paper but I guess you need that opinion of marriage to be able to do what you do.

[Lizzie60]

uh ohh someone sounds a little bitter. Back to that classy language again I see. Real women do not speak like that dear. Maybe a little ettiquette class may help you.

 

Over what TC said: that I never got married but as far as I know, never been cheated on. I left both times... so that piece of paper means absolutely nothing!

 

I know a couple who lived common-law for 11 years, had 2 children...got married in July one year, then he left her for another woman on New Year's Eve that same year.

[Tomcat33]

uh ohh someone sounds a little bitter. Back to that classy language again I see. Real women do not speak like that dear. Maybe a little ettiquette class may help you.

 

Bitter??? I certainly don't mark a human being's worth because they've been married or not. Again that is flock mentality, and I have already shown in more than one way I don't adhere to collective thinking.

 

But let's put things into context here. If you are going to mark a woman's worth by the fact that she is married, then let me be the first to point out the irony in your statment given the reason people came to LS is because most married people here are totally miserable in their marriages because of cheating.

 

So if being "chosen" for marriage is a sign of worthiness for a woman, and also turning around and deceiving her in the worst possible way is part of the whole "being worthy" thing, then I think you are going to have to do a lot better job at convincing me where this "worth" is that you sepak of.

[Trialbyfire]

anyone wonder why this 55 year old woman has never been married? Do you think maybe because this is not the type of woman you marry just one you have a little fun with but certainly not the caliber of person you share your whole life with.

I would say that's blatantly obvious. Two long term relationships and no real interest in cementing it. Regardless of what lipservice was given by these men, actions speak louder than words.

 

I wonder if this is what has caused the deep-seeded need to try to focus on MM. A revenge scenario, every time she manages to seduce an MM. See, I can get MM too...

[Tomcat33]

I would say that's blatantly obvious. Two long term relationships and no real interest in cementing it. Regardless of what lipservice was given by these men, actions speak louder than words.

 

I wonder if this is what has caused the deep-seeded need to try to focus on MM. A revenge scenario, every time she manages to seduce an MM. See, I can get MM too...

 

I think the expression is "deep seated" not "seeded"

[Virgo1982]

Bitter??? I certainly don't mark a human being's worth because they've been married or not. Again that is flock mentality, and I have already shown in more than one way I don't adhere to collective thinking.

 

But let's put things into context here. If you are going to mark a woman's worth by the fact that she is married, then let me be the first to point out the irony in your statment given the reason people came to LS is because most married people here are totally miserable in their marriages because of cheating.

 

So if being "chosen" for marriage is a sign of worthiness for a woman, and also turning around and deceiving her in the worst possible way is part of the whole "being worthy" thing, then I think you are going to have to do a lot better job at convincing me where this "worth" is that you sepak of.

 

 

I hope you're misunderstanding TC. I hope no one is dumb enough to think that being M is a sign of greatness. That would open the biggest can of worms in the world.

[Guest]

I understand your point, but, this woman has what to do with your particular case?

 

Even if this thread is real, which I doubt it is, she is really doing herself a diservice, never mind everyone else involved. Women who try to cheat nature are only cheating themselves, isn't that a big enough price to pay? The pain and suffering inflicted onto oneself? Pretty ironic if you ask me.

Life has a way of working itself out despite all the accusations people from the outside may feel compelled to ignite.

 

It's like women who think that they are modern and behave like men thinking that they can engage in casual sex no strings attached with men. Women are not biologically programmed to have sex without emotion.On a very subconscious level, the reason we develop feelings for men when we have sex with them is because our bodies are trying to tell us that said man could be our child's father. Nature made it that way so that women could engage in monogamous relationships to provide the children a safe environment with a loving mother AND father. Regardles of her conscious needs to bear children, this happens on a deep subconscious level.

Can you imagine where monogamy would be if we weren't programmed that way? It wouldn't exist, because we all know that men are programmed completely differently.

 

If a woman thinks she is THAT powerful to be able to tick mother nature by trying to act like a man, then she is in for a big wake up call. Most women can't handle it. Sooner or later the subconscious becomes conscious. I personally think that's punishment enough.

 

Again, my opinion.

WRONG!!!! WHAT ABOUT ESCORTS? THERE GOES UR THEORY...

[Guest]

I am in my late 40s so now, it's ALL ABOUT ME!

 

How lovely good for you I supose you cant or dont wanna see the wives and maybe children who's lives you will compleatly destroy when you finaly get caut doing daddy like a animal in heat?? Yes congrats you should be verry proud of your self indeed!! Yes these are truly wonderfull examples of manhood you are involved with as well. I guess even a turd can smell decent with enough cheep perfume poured over them.. And I thought by your age people were supose to have more wisdom not less.. Sorry don't to sound rude but this is just to much complete disreguard for others lives for me to stomick quite frankley it makes me Ill..

[greengoddess]

I hope you're misunderstanding TC. I hope no one is dumb enough to think that being M is a sign of greatness. That would open the biggest can of worms in the world.

 

Of course she is misunderstanding. She twists every post to be argumentatve.

[outofdarkness]

First and foremost the blame must go to the wandering spouse but women like Lizzie60 are like vultures. In my old neighborhood I used see dead bodies in the hallways of my apartment building sometimes. They were mostly overdoses and a few murders, Almost every time the dead body was looted by theives who stripped the dead body clean. The theives did not kill this person but they are bloodsuckers who preyed on another person's misery. Ow and OM are vultures who see a dying marriage and go in and take what they want. They did not cause a spouse to cheat but they exploit the pain of a dying marriage.

Well...this was a good analogy IMO...I don't like getting to the nitty gritty like that, but you said it well...

[Virgo1982]

Well...this was a good analogy IMO...I don't like getting to the nitty gritty like that, but you said it well...

 

I have to disagree. Sometimes you all make sense, and then you just go off the deep end. Lucrezia Borgia (sorry for spelling) is a pretty objective poster. She told an OW that she had to accept some blame because she was allowing the MM to hurt her. Where does that factor into the analogy? It probably doesn't...

[Guest]

The type of guy I'm seeing are good men... they might be liars and cheaters but they treat their wife decently..

 

Hey lady I dont know you personaly but what kinda drugs are you smoking?? LMAO... Just read over exactly what you just said there and rethink it. And then if you can still say the same thing go get a shrink quickly because you need some help badly sorry 2 say.. 1. Men who cheet are NOT GOOD MEN nither are women for that matter 2. How in your mind is lieing to your spouse treateing them decently?????? I'm not on any high horse or nothing I just know right from horribly wrong!!

[Tomcat33]

anyone wonder why this 55 year old woman has never been married? Do you think maybe because this is not the type of woman you marry just one you have a little fun with but certainly not the caliber of person you share your whole life with.

 

 

GreenG: Please define what the "type of woman" you marry is? What the "caliber of woman" you spend your whole life with is?

 

Virgo: GreenG made a huge leap in assumption that just because a woman is 55 and never been married she is not the "type" to ask to marry. What does that even mean? LOL

 

Some of these bitter posters are so closed minded that they think a woman's worth is measured by whether she is married or not. It's ridiculous.

[Virgo1982]

GreenG: Please define what the "type of woman" you marry is? What the "caliber of woman" you spend your whole life with is?

 

Virgo: GreenG made a huge leap in assumption that just because a woman is 55 and never been married she is not the "type" to ask to marry. What does that even mean? LOL

 

Some of these bitter posters are so closed minded that they think a woman's worth is measured by whether she is married or not. It's ridiculous.

 

Yes, the statement does kinda support your theory. I just can't believe someone would think that. Maybe that's another reason for smiling in public and staying with the "Big Bad Wolf..." Who knows?

[Trialbyfire]

There's some bitterness on the side of the OWs too. Some definite resentment against the betrayed spouses for numerous reasons.

 

There are different types of OWs. From what I've seen, I can understand why some OWs are not marriage material. While marriage is not the defining factor for being a woman, you must admit that men tend to categorize women as ones they are willing to bring home to meet the parents/father children with and others that they would be ashamed to do so with, so they don't.

[Tomcat33]

Yes, the statement does kinda support your theory. I just can't believe someone would think that. Maybe that's another reason for smiling in public and staying with the "Big Bad Wolf..." Who knows?

 

 

Ok thanks for point that out Virgo.

 

GreenG: I have muy opinions but I don't TWIST posts around.

[Virgo1982]

There's some bitterness on the side of the OWs too. Some definite resentment against the betrayed spouses for numerous reasons.

 

There are different types of OWs. From what I've seen, I can understand why some OWs are not marriage material. While marriage is not the defining factor for being a woman, you must admit that men tend to categorize women as ones they are willing to bring home to meet the parents/father children with and others that they would be ashamed to do so with, so they don't.

 

How can we accept those men as a good judge of character if we believe they do not have good character themselves?

 

I agree that there are different types of OW and I think we make each other APPEAR bitter at times because nerves are struck. We're all human.

[Tomcat33]

There's some bitterness on the side of the OWs too. Some definite resentment against the betrayed spouses for numerous reasons.

 

There are different types of OWs. From what I've seen, I can understand why some OWs are not marriage material. While marriage is not the defining factor for being a woman, you must admit that men tend to categorize women as ones they are willing to bring home to meet the parents/father children with and others that they would be ashamed to do so with, so they don't.

 

 

Yeah OF COURSE I can agree with the latter part of your post there are the fun type women and the settle down type. But what Green G said was:

anyone wonder why this 55 year old woman has never been married?

 

 

So my answer to that is: NO I don't wonder that at all because to me a woman is not defined by her marital status.

 

I think that's an ignorant statement.

 

It's like asking "ever wonder what the hell the guy was thinking when he married the dud of a woman, only to cheat on her later? She tricked him into marriage, that's why he cheated"

 

IGNORANCE

[mrmaximum]

I have to disagree. Sometimes you all make sense, and then you just go off the deep end. Lucrezia Borgia (sorry for spelling) is a pretty objective poster. She told an OW that she had to accept some blame because she was allowing the MM to hurt her. Where does that factor into the analogy? It probably doesn't...

 

I believe that they where talking about an OW who goes for MM. They smell a dying relationship, and an opportunity to get some of the things that they want. Not trying to take any blame for the MM who does this in the first place, but you get the idea. Yes there are some unfortunate souls who had the wool pulled over their eyes and lied to by the MM initally, different scenario however. Not all OW are lied to, "Lizzie" is attempting to be an example of this and we know that there are people who think like that in real life. For this situation, the analogy is right on the mark.

[NoIDidn't]

Why is it that you always assume crap about me personally when you know nothing about me?

The one thing that wasn't true for me!?!? I was never IN an affair so I don't speak from experience. My guy bought me gifts because he wanted to not because he was compensating for the fact that I could not have him or that I would "blow" his cover....I'm talking about men who are sneaking around with their mistresses. they have a lot at stake, they dont want that amazing feeling to end 'they don't want to go back home to their boring mechanical sex with their Ws when they could have endless fun with and excitement with their mistresses who are always ready and willing to please them and so they play it up quite a few notches for them because it's too much excitement to loose out on. So guys will try THAT much harder to sustain that. Sorry it's a hard pill to swallow but I don't make this stuff up. It's mutually satisfying for the OW and the MM he gives and so does she and they are happy but he cannot give her what she wants most and that is his 100%.

 

Single guys give their 100% they don't have to try as hard. It's not rocket science really.....doesn't matter if you agree with the theory or not, it's my theory take it or leave it.

 

 

Like I said, *I* disagree with YOUR theory. You haven't been with EVERY SINGLE MM out there. SOoooooo, YOUR theory is what I disagree with. And that's all I was saying.

 

Why YOU have to go off the deep end because someone DARED to disagree with YOU is BEYOND ME!!!