GregsBad Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 OMG, and now she needs to explain her weight to you! So if she was 20 pounds heavier, what would be your response? BTW, how long is your ****? If she were heavy? 20 pounds? Well, she said he only thinks of her while he masturbates. It would be hard to concentrate on her with that much junk in the trunk. She said she used to be overweight. Seems fair to ask. That's why I wondered ... I've been thinking about it. Seven inches What's got you thinking about my penis?
new_stella Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 If she were heavy? 20 pounds? Well, she said he only thinks of her while he masturbates. It would be hard to concentrate on her with that much junk in the trunk. She said she used to be overweight. Seems fair to ask. That's why I wondered ... I've been thinking about it. Seven inches What's got you thinking about my penis? Well, talking about this subject… it’s sort of hard not to Besides, it gives me an excellent opportunity to tell you you’re lying whatever your answer is Actually, I was just trying to make the point that measurements are not important. Would you loose sexual interest in your gf if she gained 20 pounds? Things happen in life. What if she’s pregnant?
GregsBad Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Actually, I was just trying to make the point that measurements are not important. Would you loose sexual interest in your gf if she gained 20 pounds? Things happen in life. What if she’s pregnant? Awh Stella ... you sneaky girl ... trying to switch the subject around! Now pay attention here. I'm gonna teach somthing about the way most men think. This isn't rocket science. Measurements are important, if you want him thinking naughty thoughts only about you. See, during masturbation, sometimes a guy has to CONCENTRATE! Some guys even get brain aches for thinking too hard. Some dummies have to use pictures. Anyway, it's harder to focus on a fat ass. Don't get mad at me - I'm just telling you how it works.
GregsBad Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 What if she’s pregnant? I almost missed this point - it's important. The mother of my child? Are you kidding? She's the sexiest thing in the world! And I'll make sure she knows it.
new_stella Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 I almost missed this point - it's important. The mother of my child? Are you kidding? She's the sexiest thing in the world! And I'll make sure she knows it. I was just about to reply to your first post… But now you’re saying that measurements are not important? How do these two statements go together?
GregsBad Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 I was just about to reply to your first post… But now you’re saying that measurements are not important? How do these two statements go together? You're just baiting me.
new_stella Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 You're just baiting me. I’m not, honestly. I just like to see/point out the funny side of things every now and then, that’s all. But my question was genuine; I would love to know how it works. In fact, I believe, if I could understand that part, everything else would fall in place. See, although I have a problem with this I don’t have a definite opinion on the subject (yet). I’m not saying I’m right you’re wrong. I’m trying to hear something to make me understand and ultimately make me feel better. And I can assure you, what I want to hear is not ‘no, honey, your butt doesn’t look fat in that’. (And before you ask, no, I am not fat ) So, if you really have an answer to that and are willing to share it, I would like to hear it.
goxcrazy19 Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 You know, im not pregnant, but my boyfriend is just the same way. and I have exactly same problem. I was trying to talk to him about it,his excuse was that he is away for the whole week, and every guy does that..so its nothing wrong with it...i know your going thru a hard time rite now,but i think talking with him about it, and maybe trying to ask him why he lied, and whats really going on...that would be the best advice, i mean isnt it better that he is doing it to some pictures of girls on the internet, than he would just go and do it actually with someone in person.!!!!
GregsBad Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 I’m not, honestly. I just like to see/point out the funny side of things every now and then, that’s all. But my question was genuine; I would love to know how it works. In fact, I believe, if I could understand that part, everything else would fall in place. See, although I have a problem with this I don’t have a definite opinion on the subject (yet). I’m not saying I’m right you’re wrong. I’m trying to hear something to make me understand and ultimately make me feel better. And I can assure you, what I want to hear is not ‘no, honey, your butt doesn’t look fat in that’. (And before you ask, no, I am not fat ) So, if you really have an answer to that and are willing to share it, I would like to hear it. OK ... Well first, one of the topics in this thread was about Rain. After she learned that her BF was looking at porn, he assured her that he stopped. The thread went to what I consider an impossible degree that he not only stopped porn but now he never even thinks of another woman, not even while masturbating. She'd allow that he masturbates, but only if he's thinking of her during. She'd even dump him for it if she knew he thought otherwise ... saying she'd be "weak and pathetic" if she kept him. All pretty extreem and unyielding (to me). Ironically, she said she lost some weight recently. Which (to me) means she didn't lose it all. I questioned, wanting to point out that if she is going to claim dominion over his private thoughts she ought to do her part to earn some of the claim by being sexy enough to captivate his desires. You'll probably agree that SOME girls let them selves go a little and then make it appear that the BF is a jerk because his eyes don't still dialate when he glances her way. In fairness, I also agree that it's my job to stay buff, and touchable, and kind, and interesting etc, if I (also) want to enjoy the thought that she gets naughty thoughts about me. If I let myself go, then I risk losing some of that and wouldn't lay all the blame at her feet. I love my GF and learned that she's wired different - really complicated too - but I'm determined to figure out how to flip her switches. So it puzzles me when somone like Rain wants to dictate how he should be wired, even sees herself as strong and respectable for it. It's even facinating. Anyway, that's the reason for my pointed questions about Rains figure. She said she's small and petite. And still maintains that her guy is one in a million who's thoughts NEVER stray because she's all he needs. I get the idea that Rain is not all interested in gaining insight into how most men think. She's really determined to dictate how it ought to be according to her thinking. But now your question is really different and seems to me like you're really wanting to know how some men think. What I said was true but needs some 'splainin' ... I want to answer. But it's 7am and I've gotta' start my day with a jog. - I'll answer later. I will say right now though, that it lies in the idea that we made a baby together, it grew in her, which was overwhelming to me, and she really was still sexy. And about porn ... I never agreed that porn is ok and should be easily accepted. If a guy loves her and wants her to know she's special - well, porn will hurt most peoples feelings (guys too.) If he's got a stash, she'll find it eventually. If he's surfing the net ... she'll one day figure out how to read the browser history ... she'll figure it out somehow ... better to just go though life without it. But it does not really mean, in every case, that since he's looking at it ... then he'd actually do it. I'm only willing to assert that masturbation and thinking ... is nearly impossible ... maybe even absolutley impossible, to shut off. So the answer, to me, must lie in some form of compromise and some degree of acceptance. Also ... both sides need to go to extra effort to make it work. I would have been pithy and brief, but didn't have enough time - so I wrote this long one instead PS. I believe you're not fat.
rtHawk Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 OK ... Well first, one of the topics in this thread was about Rain. After she learned that her BF was looking at porn, he assured her that he stopped. The thread went to what I consider an impossible degree that he not only stopped porn but now he never even thinks of another woman, not even while masturbating. She'd allow that he masturbates, but only if he's thinking of her during. She'd even dump him for it if she knew he thought otherwise ... saying she'd be "weak and pathetic" if she kept him. All pretty extreem and unyielding (to me). Ironically, she said she lost some weight recently. Which (to me) means she didn't lose it all. I questioned, wanting to point out that if she is going to claim dominion over his private thoughts she ought to do her part to earn some of the claim by being sexy enough to captivate his desires. You'll probably agree that SOME girls let them selves go a little and then make it appear that the BF is a jerk because his eyes don't still dialate when he glances her way. In fairness, I also agree that it's my job to stay buff, and touchable, and kind, and interesting etc, if I (also) want to enjoy the thought that she gets naughty thoughts about me. If I let myself go, then I risk losing some of that and wouldn't lay all the blame at her feet. I love my GF and learned that she's wired different - really complicated too - but I'm determined to figure out how to flip her switches. So it puzzles me when somone like Rain wants to dictate how he should be wired, even sees herself as strong and respectable for it. It's even facinating. Anyway, that's the reason for my pointed questions about Rains figure. She said she's small and petite. And still maintains that her guy is one in a million who's thoughts NEVER stray because she's all he needs. I get the idea that Rain is not all interested in gaining insight into how most men think. She's really determined to dictate how it ought to be according to her thinking. But now your question is really different and seems to me like you're really wanting to know how some men think. What I said was true but needs some 'splainin' ... I want to answer. But it's 7am and I've gotta' start my day with a jog. - I'll answer later. I will say right now though, that it lies in the idea that we made a baby together, it grew in her, which was overwhelming to me, and she really was still sexy. And about porn ... I never agreed that porn is ok and should be easily accepted. If a guy loves her and wants her to know she's special - well, porn will hurt most peoples feelings (guys too.) If he's got a stash, she'll find it eventually. If he's surfing the net ... she'll one day figure out how to read the browser history ... she'll figure it out somehow ... better to just go though life without it. But it does not really mean, in every case, that since he's looking at it ... then he'd actually do it. I'm only willing to assert that masturbation and thinking ... is nearly impossible ... maybe even absolutley impossible, to shut off. So the answer, to me, must lie in some form of compromise and some degree of acceptance. Also ... both sides need to go to extra effort to make it work. I would have been pithy and brief, but didn't have enough time - so I wrote this long one instead PS. I believe you're not fat. so, really awesome men still do exist!!!!! I hope you know what a wonderful guy you seem to be and your GF is one very lucky and blessed woman!!!!!!
GregsBad Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 so, really awesome men still do exist!!!!! I hope you know what a wonderful guy you seem to be and your GF is one very lucky and blessed woman!!!!!! No! no! no! ... stop! I've been going to seminars, reading, questioning ... researching ... on how to have game. I'm even taking a**hole classes ... all good stuff by the way! You're gonna' set me way back.
GregsBad Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 See, although I have a problem with this I don’t have a definite opinion on the subject (yet). I’m not saying I’m right you’re wrong. I’m trying to hear something to make me understand and ultimately make me feel better. And I can assure you, what I want to hear is not ‘no, honey, your butt doesn’t look fat in that’. (And before you ask, no, I am not fat ) So, if you really have an answer to that and are willing to share it, I would like to hear it. First of all I agree that porn is harmful, and it’s more prolific than ever before. Long ago it was the Sear’s catalogue with girls in giant panties. But now porn is totally explicit, viewable in secret, your neighbors will never know! But the GF will definitely figure it out. It’s a problem that will break up many marriages and relationships. It's here to stay and has to be dealt with. But I also think it doesn’t have to mean that he’d cheat if he could, nor that he really wants to have sex with the porn model. It doesn’t have to be the end unless you want it to be. If she lets him know how much it hurts her, many guys will stop it because he loves her and doesn’t want to hurt her. He’s an a**hole if he wont stop Anyway … I think a BF needs to stay fit, funny, kind, interesting, edgy, confident (even a little arrogant). And learn all he can on how to make her squirm and wiggle in his arms. And how to make her feel sexy. Cooking for her is good too He should throw away his porn stash, take his computer to an expert and clean the history and then keep in it clean. Maybe keep just one little secret from her … That he knows - that she knows – how to read the browser history She’ll feel better each time she snoops.
rainfall Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 OK ... Ironically, she said she lost some weight recently. Which (to me) means she didn't lose it all. I questioned, wanting to point out that if she is going to claim dominion over his private thoughts she ought to do her part to earn some of the claim by being sexy enough to captivate his desires. So it puzzles me when somone like Rain wants to dictate how he should be wired, even sees herself as strong and respectable for it. It's even facinating. Anyway, that's the reason for my pointed questions about Rains figure. She said she's small and petite. And still maintains that her guy is one in a million who's thoughts NEVER stray because she's all he needs. I get the idea that Rain is not all interested in gaining insight into how most men think. She's really determined to dictate how it ought to be according to her thinking. . So you think I didn't lose all the weight I need to? Exactly how small do you think I should get down to.... I really didn't know there was a way to phrase the fact that I lost weight that would be viewed as correct. (If I misunderstood you though I'm sorry... kind of hard to tell sometimes) It would make me weak and pathetic to stay with my man if he sees some hot chick and things about how much he would love to do dirty things to her. He shouldn't think things like that about random chicks if he loves me like he says he does. It does make me strong and respectable to decide how my relationship should or should not be and then to hold it to the standards I have. There are things that if I did I am sure my bf would leave me. Everyone has different things they will or will not accept in relationships and the desire to screw other women is something I do not want in mine.
Krytellan Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 So you think I didn't lose all the weight I need to? Exactly how small do you think I should get down to.... I really didn't know there was a way to phrase the fact that I lost weight that would be viewed as correct. (If I misunderstood you though I'm sorry... kind of hard to tell sometimes) It would make me weak and pathetic to stay with my man if he sees some hot chick and things about how much he would love to do dirty things to her. He shouldn't think things like that about random chicks if he loves me like he says he does. It does make me strong and respectable to decide how my relationship should or should not be and then to hold it to the standards I have. There are things that if I did I am sure my bf would leave me. Everyone has different things they will or will not accept in relationships and the desire to screw other women is something I do not want in mine. Oh, relax and watch a porn. Porn is reality. Porn is perfection. If men could marry porn, the human race would go extinct.
GregsBad Posted May 10, 2007 Posted May 10, 2007 So you think I didn't lose all the weight I need to? Exactly how small do you think I should get down to.... I really didn't know there was a way to phrase the fact that I lost weight that would be viewed as correct. (If I misunderstood you though I'm sorry... kind of hard to tell sometimes) It would make me weak and pathetic to stay with my man if he sees some hot chick and things about how much he would love to do dirty things to her. He shouldn't think things like that about random chicks if he loves me like he says he does. It does make me strong and respectable to decide how my relationship should or should not be and then to hold it to the standards I have. There are things that if I did I am sure my bf would leave me. Everyone has different things they will or will not accept in relationships and the desire to screw other women is something I do not want in mine. Yes, you misunderstood me about your weight. Remember ??? - I congratulated you for being petite. And since you never think of another man in a sexual way then I congratulate you for that too. I'm not that strong. I swear, I really tried many times but couldn't stop. I mean - about girls FWIW: My GF is without a doubt the sexiest and naughtiest person I have ever personally known. I love her. I'm pretty sure she has sexual thoughts about other men, but I never ask, don't really want to know, it would sting a little. But I figure how could she not. But one time she asked me if I had thoughts about a particular friend of ours. I lied. I did, I lied to her and said, "no baby". Then she laughed and said, "You're so full of sh*t". Then she slid close by and held my hand while she finished her salad. It's really no big deal to us.
cn283 Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 Greg, you give great advice and honest insight. But your not going to get through to rain. No one will. You are lucky to have found someone so secure with your love, and to all the guys out there these women do exist and are in higher number than you would think. The thing is, women deal with more pressure than guys and are in a very honest way more needy. That's not going to change anytime soon. If a guy really loves his woman, he should try to make her happy. If porn is such a big deal he shouldn't deny that it is, he should fess up and either choose it over her or get help in understanding why he can't give it up. If women were the ones with the extensive porn collection of attractive well endowed men, no man would care? They would really be ok if they would rather watch that and masturbate than be with them? I doubt it. But because its "a guy thing", I really don't think they see it in those kind of terms. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with porn, masturbation or fantasies...because there's not as long as its in moderation. Expecting to be the only woman your man sees for the rest of his life is silly, and kind of scary. Knowing that he fantasies about other women doesn't make you weak, and it doesn't mean he want to go have sex with them. I fantasize about winning the lottery and moving to Australia, but its not going to happen. Nor would I want it necessarily because I have too many people I love here. The whole porn thing should be talked out in rational terms and not viewed in this exaggerated emotional state. I'm not telling women to "get over it" or guys to "give it up all together"...I'm just saying you should both be mature enough to talk about it.
rainfall Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 Greg, you give great advice and honest insight. But your not going to get through to rain. No one will. You are lucky to have found someone so secure with your love, and to all the guys out there these women do exist and are in higher number than you would think. The thing is, women deal with more pressure than guys and are in a very honest way more needy. That's not going to change anytime soon. If a guy really loves his woman, he should try to make her happy. If porn is such a big deal he shouldn't deny that it is, he should fess up and either choose it over her or get help in understanding why he can't give it up. If women were the ones with the extensive porn collection of attractive well endowed men, no man would care? They would really be ok if they would rather watch that and masturbate than be with them? I doubt it. But because its "a guy thing", I really don't think they see it in those kind of terms. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with porn, masturbation or fantasies...because there's not as long as its in moderation. Expecting to be the only woman your man sees for the rest of his life is silly, and kind of scary. Knowing that he fantasies about other women doesn't make you weak, and it doesn't mean he want to go have sex with them. I fantasize about winning the lottery and moving to Australia, but its not going to happen. Nor would I want it necessarily because I have too many people I love here. The whole porn thing should be talked out in rational terms and not viewed in this exaggerated emotional state. I'm not telling women to "get over it" or guys to "give it up all together"...I'm just saying you should both be mature enough to talk about it. No one is ever going to "get through" to me on this issue because I refuse to accept that my man doesn't love me as much as he says he does and is only "settling for me" while using porn and fantasy to supply him with what I can't. Its not scary to want to be with someone who doesn't think about doing dirty things to every hot chick he sees. It is (from the women I have talked to in rl about this) kind of common. Noone wants to know that their man is pretending that they are someone esle when they have sex or are masturbating to images of their best friend.
littlepiggy1 Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 No one is ever going to "get through" to me on this issue OOC, why *do* you post here (in these porn threads I mean)?
rainfall Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 OOC, why *do* you post here (in these porn threads I mean)? Because people like to say everyone has fantasies and masturbates to them which is not true. Then when I post anything people like to tell me I am wrong and my bf is a liar.
cn283 Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 No one is ever going to "get through" to me on this issue because I refuse to accept that my man doesn't love me as much as he says he does and is only "settling for me" while using porn and fantasy to supply him with what I can't. Its not scary to want to be with someone who doesn't think about doing dirty things to every hot chick he sees. It is (from the women I have talked to in rl about this) kind of common. Noone wants to know that their man is pretending that they are someone esle when they have sex or are masturbating to images of their best friend. Your putting words in my mouth. No where on my post did I say "accept that your man doesn't love you as much as he says he is only 'settling for me' while using porn and fantasy to supply him with what I can't". If you misunderstood let me clarify: Just because he has a fantasy that's not about you doesn't mean you are not enough. He THINKS about things that don't involve you, it doesn't mean he doesn't love you. And it is scary to go to the extreme that he can't think. Are you saying when a woman walks by with perfume he can't breathe either? Why do you assume a guy is pretending they are with someone else when they have sex? And we are talking about porn, not images of your best friend. If a guy is pretending that you are someone else that's a issue that has nothing to do with porn. He is a person too and has a right to think and fantasize just as much as I do, what kind of girlfriend would I be if I not only expected but DEMANDED that he never think of anything other than me forever?
rainfall Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 Your putting words in my mouth. No where on my post did I say "accept that your man doesn't love you as much as he says he is only 'settling for me' while using porn and fantasy to supply him with what I can't". If you misunderstood let me clarify: Just because he has a fantasy that's not about you doesn't mean you are not enough. He THINKS about things that don't involve you, it doesn't mean he doesn't love you. And it is scary to go to the extreme that he can't think. Are you saying when a woman walks by with perfume he can't breathe either? Why do you assume a guy is pretending they are with someone else when they have sex? And we are talking about porn, not images of your best friend. If a guy is pretending that you are someone else that's a issue that has nothing to do with porn. He is a person too and has a right to think and fantasize just as much as I do, what kind of girlfriend would I be if I not only expected but DEMANDED that he never think of anything other than me forever? If he uses porn and thinks about others women then I am missing something otherwise he wouldn't need all that. If he thinks about screwing other women he can get out of my life because I do not need someone like that in my life. Honestly do you really think if a man is going to fantasize he limits what is safe and not safe. Not safe being during sex or thinking about your best friend. For the perfume thing.... he thinks perfume stinks and that women wear waaaaaaay to much of it so not sure how to answer that, but I don't think a guy has ever wanted to sleep with someone because of how her perfume smells. Why can't you accept that maybe just maybe my bf doesn't think about screwing other women? Just because you don't have (or maybe don't want) that in your relationship doesn't mean every relationship is like that.
happygirl70 Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 Because people like to say everyone has fantasies and masturbates to them which is not true. Then when I post anything people like to tell me I am wrong and my bf is a liar. So, you just basically feel the need to be the 'voice of reason'. I guess I get that. Unfortunately the original poster needed some advice and we all spent way too much time focusing on your need to be right. I think there is a different level of "right" for everyone and as long as you and yours are on the same wavelength, I think that is great. Doesn't mean that everyone else in the world can't be happy, just means we do it in a different way. At any rate, I'm glad you are happy and that you bf is so willing to put aside all the carnal things of the world to make you happy. That is really a great thing and I'm happy that you found each other, because most guys aren't that willing.
littlepiggy1 Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 Because people like to say everyone has fantasies and masturbates to them which is not true. True not everyone does. But most people do. Then when I post anything people like to tell me I am wrong and my bf is a liar. *shrug* You don't know for sure what's in your b/f's head. You already said, you choose to believe he doesn't. That's fine. But statistically speaking, there's a greater chance he's lying than telling the truth. If you don't want to hear that, then don't bother trying to tell us what is in his head.
rainfall Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 True not everyone does. But most people do. *shrug* You don't know for sure what's in your b/f's head. You already said, you choose to believe he doesn't. That's fine. But statistically speaking, there's a greater chance he's lying than telling the truth. If you don't want to hear that, then don't bother trying to tell us what is in his head. You don't know for sure what is in his head either. Another reason I post in these threads is it annoys me when you tell me he is lying.
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