burning 4 revenge Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Who cares if it costs more, it looks ugly. There's probably more money spent on breast implants than obesity related illnesses ,but who would you rather snog?
Walk Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Who cares if it costs more, it looks ugly. There's probably more money spent on breast implants than obesity related illnesses ,but who would you rather snog? hahahah Personally? The people getting breast implants. But I'm kind of shallow in like that. (if I swung that way)
Ariadne Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Hey, Great post norajane they had a damned good reason that mattered to them. Strangers and society's disapproval is rarely effective. That's true. Fried eggs and your brain on drugs is a source of amusement for people who take drugs. Haha, that's true too. Why is it so hard for some people to lose weight? Besides the things that you pointed out such as age, emotional issues, etc. I think it's because high calorie food is so available and convenient. In order to eat healthful and low calorie meals, you basically have to cook them yourself. Which takes time to prepare, time to buy the ingredients, and disposition. Any drive-through has food ready in 30 seconds and cheap. That usually is a 800 cal and up packed meal. At the very least. Even though they are trying to be more healthful including salads in their menus, even those are in the 500 cal range. Ariadne
CrushedOrgans Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 I'm thinking that perhaps if she didn't have her picture up (young, beautiful, Paris-Hilton slim, and blond), her words might not be interpreted as "fat-bashing" quite so much. The "off to the tropical island" comment didn't help much either. i disagree with this a bit. no matter how she looks, the comments are rude. and i, for one, don't take too seriously the self-described or imposed physical appearance of someone i can't really see and could be anybody at all. not saying that pink amulet is posing as someone else, but i do keep that in mind. i also keep in mind that the way pink amulet might look is not everyone's idea of beauty or attractiveness. and the last thing i keep in mind that none of that even really matters, you have to go by words here. not all of us who find pink amulet offensive are big old 'fat slobs' trying to type while stuffing pizza and cheeseburgers down our throats while jealous of her so-called perfection. i'm willing to bet many of us didn't even take her own looks into consideration because we didn't notice or it didn't matter. you can look okay and still be rude and ignorant. Has anyone here had a person they care about die from a weight related disease? Has anyone here had a parent or spouse that could not or cannot participate in family activities because of weight? It is not all about looks. i agree with this. and of course it's not about looks. but being downright rude about someone's personal appearance, especially if they have a fragile state of mind about it, is what the problem is here. pink amulet, i'm trying to understand you, honestly, but i feel that with this mentality, you would think it was okay to see a homeless person, tell him how bad he smells and how unhealthy he is, and lecture him on how easy it is to get off his lazy ass, get a job, and buy some clothes, rent a house, and take a shower. and then say "i'm not insulting, it's a problem with humanity i am trying to fix here. it's socially unhealthy for me to have to see or deal with this, so i want everyone to match their priorities to mine." and first it was the cheerleading pm's, now it's the tropical island thing. sorry, but i really fail to see how someone who needs such constant validation from people on a website has a right to insult anyone and expect it to be accepted in the real world.
allina Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 15 pages in I'm deciding to intude. Here is what I have to say; and this is speaking mostly about America, since that is where I live I don't think obese people are to blame for the strain in our medical system (at least not for a large portion of it) I think the lack of funds that the healthcare system receives and the high costs of medecine are caused by ALL OUR MONEY BEING SPENT ON THIS BULLSH*T WAR!!! I'm not fat, but I do sometimes eat pizza or whatever unhealthy food, sometimes I also enjoy a smoke, I am healthy. I'm surprised that some people actually feel major anger towards fat people. And since when is it not okay to make comments about fat?? People do it ALL the times, everything in the media is very anti-fat. Is seems like the popular view out there is that fat is the worst thing you can be
burning 4 revenge Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 My father is borderline obese and he is constantly putting things in his mouth. I know that some people have overactive thyroids, but really, they are a small number compared to those who simply overeat. That's not being insensitive, that's being objective. It is true that when they get to a certain weight it is very hard to get down to a normal weight and no-one should be treated cruelly, but there is no reason not to call a spade a spade. I see cookies and donuts in offices all the time. Why has this become part of our culture? Little snacks all the time. That's why people are fat. Just some random thoughts.
norajane Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Thanks, Ariadne. Fried eggs and your brain on drugs is a source of amusement for people who take drugs. Haha, that's true too. Anyone that doubts this should find the Afroman song "Because I Got High".
CrushedOrgans Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 All that is a long way to say, you cannot always look at people and accurately judge their health, and the only thing that being rude accomplishes is to show them that you are a rude person. well-said.
Buttaflyy Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Is seems like the popular view out there is that fat is the worst thing you can be So much that some have eating disorders and are literally dying to be thin!
burning 4 revenge Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 i also keep in mind that the way pink amulet might look is not everyone's idea of beauty or attractiveness. Beautiful might be too strong, but she's deffintely attractive.
allina Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 So much that some have eating disorders and are literally dying to be thin! Yes, and that's really sad. Something else I've noticed is that people in this country seem to lack any sort of balance. For so long in was fast food fast food fast food, and now a sudden obsession with health and fitness. What's wrong with some rational balance??
Walk Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 I wasn't understanding the "fat is in" comments either. They tried that advertising of having hefty girls fashion a clothing line.. That was cool for about a day. Then they went right back to anorexics as the models. I think I maybe see 1 or two chunky, very-well airbrushed chicks as a model while scanning mag's. Real life though... I think "fat" is more socially acceptable. But still ridiculed, derided, made fun of, and overall not accepted. It's like saying you tolerate spinach.. doesn't mean you like it. But you don't throw it off your plate and burn it when it's there. I think we stopped doing those witch trials a few years back, didn't we?
CrushedOrgans Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Beautiful might be too strong, but she's defintely attractive. i don't think you got my point. but that was nice of you. i think. i'm not sure, actually.
norajane Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 I think we stopped doing those witch trials a few years back, didn't we? Sort of. Now we just detain so-called "terrorists" indefinitely in secret CIA prisons. "Torture Lite" is in, per Bush's new rules.
Walk Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 So... I did my BMI online just now... I'm overweight. And if I get up to 148lbs. I will be Obese. I'm going to go eat a cheeseburger now. I only have about 23lbs til I'm obese. Of course, if I lose two pounds, then I'm in the "normal range" again. Wait.. I had to add this... It says if I weight 95lbs, then I'll be dead center of my "target" weight. OMG. I have NEVER been 95lbs. hahahahahahahhaha I'd have to stop eating for a month to get down to that. hahahahha
lindya Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 I see cookies and donuts in offices all the time. I had the first donut I'd had in years a few months back. I like them plain, with no sugar. It was an absolutely heavenly experience, I have to say. One of the problems is that these things aren't really regarded as treats any more. Just part of the daily routine. Maybe things are slightly different in Europe insofar as we still have people who remember wartime rationing - and it's only in the last 20 years that fast food outlets such as McDonalds and Burger King have really taken off. Preparing and sitting down to a good meal is one of life's pleasures. It's so sad that people have cut out that aspect of life in favour of standing in a McDonalds' queue to receive their gristly little patty and cold fries. I googled McDonalds prices and found that in London one Big Mac costs £1.70. So for 4people that would be just under £7.00. For the same amount I could prepare 4 generous sized burgers made from organic steak mince and topped with cheddar cheese and rocket salad. Taste wise, there's no comparison - and the better food tastes, the more it tends to satisfy you.
stoopid_guy Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 I remember that the first time I flipped through a copy of (US) Playboy (now many years ago), I found most playmates "overweight to be on a magazine". That's because women's magazines have (clothing) models that women probably think are "ideal," where men's magazine have models men think are ideal. (Most men think women look better with curves.)
hotgurl Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 So... I did my BMI online just now... I'm overweight. And if I get up to 148lbs. I will be Obese. I'm going to go eat a cheeseburger now. I only have about 23lbs til I'm obese. Of course, if I lose two pounds, then I'm in the "normal range" again. Wait.. I had to add this... It says if I weight 95lbs, then I'll be dead center of my "target" weight. OMG. I have NEVER been 95lbs. hahahahahahahhaha I'd have to stop eating for a month to get down to that. hahahahha How tall are you? Medically Obese is only 50 or lbs overweight than you are considered medically obese.
Ariadne Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Hey, Anyone that doubts this should find the Afroman song "Because I Got High". Let's see (parts): It's like I don't care about nothin' man I was gonna clean my room, until I got high I was gonna get up and find the broom, but then I got high I was gonna go to class, before I got high I coulda' cheated and I coulda passed, but I got high I was gonna go to work, but then I got high I was gonna go to court, before I got high I was gonna pay my child support, but then I got high (No you weren't) I wasn't gonna run from the cops but I was high, (I'm serious man) I was gonna pull right over and stop, but I was high Now I'm a paraplegic, and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high I was gonna make love to you, but then I got high, I'm serious I messed up my entire life, because I got high I lost my kids and wife , because I got high Now I'm sleeping on the sidewalk, and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high, because I got high, because I got high ------ Ariadne
kitesurfer Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 my sister is 55yr old an obese--as in well over 500 lbs. as a child, sahe would rather read than play. she has never taken a walk just for the sake of walking. her diet has always consisted of pastas and sweets, pizzas and such. the dr's told her 20 years ago that she would never live to see 50 if she did not lose the weight. at 50, she had a heart attack in the dr's office--the only reason she survived. She conned the govt. into performing a stomach staple on the tax payer nickel. then the govt sent her to college and gave her a bachelors degree. now, after she has gotten so big that she could not walk from the parking lot to her car, she quit work. the govt put her on disability and send her $800 a month to live on. she had not walked outside her mobile home in over a year and a half. then her daughter down here in fla moved her down. they had to rent a big ambulance to get her down here. so...where does it end. my current wife who is soon to be divorced from me had lost 60lbs when i met her. she had 30 more to go for her goal weight. now 8 years later, she's gained most of the 60 back and never saw the 30 leave at all! but she would rather be fat...that way she can blame all her lifes short comings on her weight--taking no responsibility for it. she lives off starbucks latte and panera bread. one good thing about obese people--they keep me out of buffet style restaurants! oh yea, my x has all the obese related diseases and takes handfulls of pills daily. she cannot do any activity other than walk. sex was the absolute worst with her. there was not proformance on her part. take off her clothes and she looks like the michelin man! yea, your right--i've got an attitude! as my friend says..."God didn't make no pretty fat people." so you think that God approves of disrespectiing you body?
Walk Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 How tall are you? Medically Obese is only 50 or lbs overweight than you are considered medically obese. 4'11". I'm 125lbs right now. It says I'm over weight. "normal" would be between 91.5-123lbs. My new weight goal is to be 95lbs. I only have 30lbs to lose.. But this whole thread has really inspired me to not be obese! I don't want cause millions of others to suffer because of my rampant eating. I mean.. I'm almost obese now!! I could be causing tax payers across the country to suffer millions of dollars because of me. My eating habits are way out of control. It's all because I'm lazy. I can't get off my fat ass and go walk. I can't stop eating when I'm hungry. God help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL LOSE this weight!! I won't be an Obese fat ass who's too lazy to do anything about it. OMG.. I hate myself. Oh, you're words of critizism have really inspired me to lose that weight. Thank you. Thank you. I was so close to becoming a severe detriment to society! Only 23lbs between me and the fall of health care as we know it.
stoopid_guy Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 I WILL LOSE this weight!! I won't be an Obese fat ass who's too lazy to do anything about it. OMG.. I hate myself. Oh, you're words of critizism have really inspired me to lose that weight. Thank you. Thank you. I was so close to becoming a severe detriment to society! Only 23lbs between me and the fall of health care as we know it. There's a new procedure, kinda like stomach stapling but done externally. Just put a rope around your neck and tighten it until you can't swallow any more, Going to try it when I get home myself. I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!!!
a4a Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 4'11". I'm 125lbs right now. It says I'm over weight. "normal" would be between 91.5-123lbs. My new weight goal is to be 95lbs. I only have 30lbs to lose.. But this whole thread has really inspired me to not be obese! I don't want cause millions of others to suffer because of my rampant eating. I mean.. I'm almost obese now!! I could be causing tax payers across the country to suffer millions of dollars because of me. My eating habits are way out of control. It's all because I'm lazy. I can't get off my fat ass and go walk. I can't stop eating when I'm hungry. God help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL LOSE this weight!! I won't be an Obese fat ass who's too lazy to do anything about it. OMG.. I hate myself. Oh, you're words of critizism have really inspired me to lose that weight. Thank you. Thank you. I was so close to becoming a severe detriment to society! Only 23lbs between me and the fall of health care as we know it. At 4'11" I would think about 115lb would be good...depends on your build as well. Some people have larger bottoms and legs or like me I have guns I pack on muscle in my arms and even my legs. So too much exercise makes me look like I can kick a linebackers ass! I am 5' 4" and 119 right now.... and still have curves...... depends on build too.
hotgurl Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 4'11". I'm 125lbs right now. It says I'm over weight. "normal" would be between 91.5-123lbs. My new weight goal is to be 95lbs. I only have 30lbs to lose.. But this whole thread has really inspired me to not be obese! I don't want cause millions of others to suffer because of my rampant eating. I mean.. I'm almost obese now!! I could be causing tax payers across the country to suffer millions of dollars because of me. My eating habits are way out of control. It's all because I'm lazy. I can't get off my fat ass and go walk. I can't stop eating when I'm hungry. God help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL LOSE this weight!! I won't be an Obese fat ass who's too lazy to do anything about it. OMG.. I hate myself. Oh, you're words of critizism have really inspired me to lose that weight. Thank you. Thank you. I was so close to becoming a severe detriment to society! Only 23lbs between me and the fall of health care as we know it. I thought you must be tiny for your normal weight to be only 95 lbs. I was just pointing out the medical definition of obesity because a lot of people think of obese people as being 300 lbs + but that's not true. So because it means caring only an extra 50 lbs that makes a lot more people obese. People that don't necessarily look obese.
SmoochieFace Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 4'11". I'm 125lbs right now. It says I'm over weight. "normal" would be between 91.5-123lbs. My new weight goal is to be 95lbs. I only have 30lbs to lose.. But this whole thread has really inspired me to not be obese! I don't want cause millions of others to suffer because of my rampant eating. I mean.. I'm almost obese now!! I could be causing tax payers across the country to suffer millions of dollars because of me. My eating habits are way out of control. It's all because I'm lazy. I can't get off my fat ass and go walk. I can't stop eating when I'm hungry. God help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL LOSE this weight!! I won't be an Obese fat ass who's too lazy to do anything about it. OMG.. I hate myself. Oh, you're words of critizism have really inspired me to lose that weight. Thank you. Thank you. I was so close to becoming a severe detriment to society! Only 23lbs between me and the fall of health care as we know it. 4'11"... 125lbs... mmmmm... nice... sweet. Curves rule.
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