basil67 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, Vekoma said: I mean…..he knew I didn’t want us to break up and that I was really sad about it. I’ve done absolutely nothing to warrant this behaviour from him though? I imagine he's not being like this because you've done something wrong. It's more likely that he has the guilts and feels weird and awkward Edited March 19 by basil67 2 Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Since you lost weight & are doing other things to improve yourself his squirrelly behavior is probably due to regret. Who cares? Keep doing the good things you are doing for yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
ExpatInItaly Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 11 hours ago, Vekoma said: We haven’t tried to get back together. He knows very clearly at the time of breaking up that I didn’t want that to happen I'll clarify what I am asking: Since breaking up, have you asked him to meet up? Hang out? Chat? Link to post Share on other sites
happyhorizons Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Alpacalia said: Sometimes some people want nothing more to deal with a certain person expecially after a breakup or bad experience. They may try to minimize contact and try to move on with their lives. He may choose to simply avoid the discomfort of a negative interaction by avoiding you altogether. I agree with this ^ but also think that MAYBE he is harboring a guilty conscience. Guilty in terms of KNOWING that he DID YOU WRONG or that perhaps he was involved in SOMETHING else that led to the breakup. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alpacalia Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, happyhorizons said: I agree with this ^ but also think that MAYBE he is harboring a guilty conscience. Guilty in terms of KNOWING that he DID YOU WRONG or that perhaps he was involved in SOMETHING else that led to the breakup. That too. I mean, he did break things off because "something was missing," and honestly, that can mean anything. He may have found someone else, or realized he didn't see a future with you. So, yeah, maybe he is avoiding you because he feels guilty for ending things in the first place. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
happyhorizons Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Alpacalia said: That too. I mean, he did break things off because "something was missing," and honestly, that can mean anything. He may have found someone else, or realized he didn't see a future with you. So, yeah, maybe he is avoiding you because he feels guilty for ending things in the first place. To me, it shows his lack of character in that he simply could NOT be honest with you about why he ended things. The word that comes to mind is COWARD. Link to post Share on other sites
Alpacalia Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I don't know that I would infer he is a coward, he said something "is missing". Sounds like he was already unfulfilled in the relationship. It is easier to find fault and blame something intangible on the other person. The behavior is similar to many break ups, its likely he loved her but realized she wasn't the right one for him and he couldn't pin point a reason. Of course, feeling hurt and wanting closure is natural. It's likely there is a mix of him not wanting to project feelings strong enough where you think you have a chance and him being unable to articulate his true feelings or talk about them. It didn't get easier from your side but as time does make dents the emotions on his part may come through. Sometimes when people run away like this, it is an indicator that they are trying to seem unaffected and cool but really he is hurting inside. It's possible that he is trying to avoid processing his own emotions and is truly not ready to talk about it yet. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
happyhorizons Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Alpacalia said: I don't know that I would infer he is a coward, he said something "is missing". Sounds like he was already unfulfilled in the relationship. It is easier to find fault and blame something intangible on the other person. The behavior is similar to many break ups, its likely he loved her but realized she wasn't the right one for him and he couldn't pin point a reason. Of course, feeling hurt and wanting closure is natural. It's likely there is a mix of him not wanting to project feelings strong enough where you think you have a chance and him being unable to articulate his true feelings or talk about them. It didn't get easier from your side but as time does make dents the emotions on his part may come through. Sometimes when people run away like this, it is an indicator that they are trying to seem unaffected and cool but really he is hurting inside. It's possible that he is trying to avoid processing his own emotions and is truly not ready to talk about it yet. Maybe, the word COWARD was too harsh I concede that but I do believe that after 4 years together she does deserve a little more. Edited March 19 by happyhorizons spelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alpacalia Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 3 minutes ago, happyhorizons said: Maybe, the word COWARD as too harsh I concede that but I do believe that after 4 years together she does deserve a little more. I agree. But that is not (always) the case. As much as it affects you, you have the power to let it be or diminish its effects. I was about to be married after seven years together, my ex kissed another woman, we split up, maybe he did that because he wasn’t ready for commitment, but, beyond that he wasn’t meant for me, and I am glad that it happened before walking down the aisle. You just never know the full reasoning. I understand it’s difficult to comprehend and it may feel hurtful at first, but I suggest to keep the message moving. Cherish the four years garnered to its full extent and let the messages from the past remain there. Edited March 19 by Alpacalia 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wiseman2 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) Sorry this happened. It seems quite fresh and hurtful. All you can do is continue being polite and professional at work. Please don't try to be friends or too friendly or talk to others about him. Unfortunately he seems to be walling himself off to distance himself more from the breakup and having to see each other at work. Edited March 19 by Wiseman2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vekoma Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, ExpatInItaly said: I'll clarify what I am asking: Since breaking up, have you asked him to meet up? Hang out? Chat? Probably about 3 months post BU I asked him to come and meet me for coffee to just try and ‘make some peace’…… He declined saying he ‘didn’t feel comfortable seeing me, perhaps a long way into the future we could’ and that was that. I haven’t pestered him, haven’t talked badly about him to people etc and have just tried to carry on which is why I’m finding his shift in behaviour from saying hello in passing to outright running away very confusing Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vekoma Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Wiseman2 said: Sorry this happened. It seems quite fresh and hurtful. All you can do is continue being polite and professional at work. Please don't try to be friends or too friendly or talk to others about him. Unfortunately he seems to be walling himself off to distance himself more from the breakup and having to see each other at work. I’ve tried so hard to be polite but it’s near on impossible to do when someone runs away or blanks you……I just carry on doing what I am doing regardless…… I haven’t spoken badly about him other than comment to a few people that he won’t speak to me and I’ve found it hurtful. Bitter, angry ex I am certainly not. Confused and hurt as to why I have been treated like this? a definite yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ExpatInItaly Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Maybe he's secretly started seeing someone else at work and doesn't want to give her the impression that he's stil connected to you somehow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vekoma Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, d0nnivain said: Since you lost weight & are doing other things to improve yourself his squirrelly behavior is probably due to regret. Who cares? Keep doing the good things you are doing for yourself. I admit, I’m still not healed enough to not care if he feels some sort of regret…..I’m conscious enough to realise and admit that I hope he does…. Don’t get me wrong, I am not reactive to him in any way whatsoever in public and in person. It’s ending those days where I come home and have a cry about it that I am keen to let go of…….kinda hard when I keep getting subjected to his behaviour on a weekly basis though Link to post Share on other sites
Weezy1973 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, Vekoma said: Confused and hurt as to why I have been treated like this? a definite yes. But you’re not being treated like anything. He’s an ex. You have no relationship with him anymore. And that’s how he’s acting. What exactly is confusing you and hurting you? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vekoma Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, Weezy1973 said: But you’re not being treated like anything. He’s an ex. You have no relationship with him anymore. And that’s how he’s acting. What exactly is confusing you and hurting you? It confuses and hurts me how someone who loved me and wanted a future can literally not stand to be in the same room as me, treats me like I am absolutely nothing or tries to run and hide when they see me….. I’m being treated like I hurt them, cheated on them or did something wrong. I’ve done none of those things. To keep carrying it on so obviously in the work place is getting really tiring and is really hurtful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alpacalia Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, Vekoma said: It confuses and hurts me how someone who loved me and wanted a future can literally not stand to be in the same room as me, treats me like I am absolutely nothing or tries to run and hide when they see me….. I’m being treated like I hurt them, cheated on them or did something wrong. I’ve done none of those things. To keep carrying it on so obviously in the work place is getting really tiring and is really hurtful. The sooner you realize this is about him, not you, the better off you will be. Stop giving him the power. Right now you are an easy target for him to just give you the attention he wants (or lack thereof) and because he is over this, don't think for a second he is not embarrassed or hurt by his actions. This is his way of dealing with it, his problem, his issues, but it does not have to be yours. It is neither about him or you, it is about letting go. You will never understand why he does what he does. You are the one who needs to take your control and let him go. As long as you don't let go, he has the ball in his court, for great reasons it should not even be there to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiseman2 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Even though you're hurt from the breakup, please try to reframe things. Instead of viewing this as him punishing you somehow, view it as his way of coping with the breakup. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
happyhorizons Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Wiseman2 said: Even though you're hurt from the breakup, please try to reframe things. Instead of viewing this as him punishing you somehow, view it as his way of coping with the breakup. Also, look at it as a BLESSING that you did not actually get married.....glass half full as opposed to being half empty. Always try and remember that "endings are just the beginnings of beautiful things." Edited March 19 by happyhorizons Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Alpacalia said: So, yeah, maybe he is avoiding you because he feels guilty for ending things in the first place. It could be that seeing OP makes him angry because it triggers his guilt and makes him feel like crap. So he's trying to avoid her to not feel bad about himself. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
happyhorizons Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 16 hours ago, stillafool said: It could be that seeing OP makes him angry because it triggers his guilt and makes him feel like crap. So he's trying to avoid her to not feel bad about himself. To further expand on this comment ^ maybe, avoidance is simply his best way of dealing with things regardless of how or why things ended. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ExpatInItaly Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 21 hours ago, Vekoma said: To keep carrying it on so obviously in the work place is getting really tiring and is really hurtful. But what can you really do about it? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vekoma Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 15 hours ago, ExpatInItaly said: But what can you really do about it? Nothing really other than just try and carry on. It’s really painful having to see him do this to me and not really understand why he’s behaving the way he is but I have no choice unfortunately. He did it to me yesterday……I was working on a computer minding my own business and he walked into the room to meet some work colleagues for coffee - saw that I was in there and told them he couldn’t sit in there and left…….I didn’t even lift my head, I just remain stoic and neutral. So he’s started doing it in front of other people now. What they must think of him I don’t know. Link to post Share on other sites
happyhorizons Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, Vekoma said: Nothing really other than just try and carry on. It’s really painful having to see him do this to me and not really understand why he’s behaving the way he is but I have no choice unfortunately. He did it to me yesterday……I was working on a computer minding my own business and he walked into the room to meet some work colleagues for coffee - saw that I was in there and told them he couldn’t sit in there and left…….I didn’t even lift my head, I just remain stoic and neutral. So he’s started doing it in front of other people now. What they must think of him I don’t know. This is ON HIM not you. I would just ignore him as well: no glances his way, no acknowledgement towards him, nada. It seems to me this has gotten to a "childish level" and no lady deserves to be treated as such. Just Move On. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vekoma Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 21 minutes ago, happyhorizons said: This is ON HIM not you. I would just ignore him as well: no glances his way, no acknowledgement towards him, nada. It seems to me this has gotten to a "childish level" and no lady deserves to be treated as such. Just Move On. Honestly it’s pathetic…..I just carry on with what I’m doing. They’ve all worked with me for 20 years too and know me well so I know he is the one who is making a complete idiot of himself. I just can’t really understand why he’s gone from being ‘cordial’ to this childish behaviour? The man’s 45 years old for crying out loud. He had EVERY opportunity to fix this when he dumped me. I’ve never been angry or hurtful to him (ok I cried a lot) and even gave him the opportunity to meet me and ‘make friends’ so to speak. I just have to keep on doing what I’m doing in the hopes that one day it won’t bother me quite so much. My poker face has had some real training recently I’ll give you that Link to post Share on other sites
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