Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 To sum up this thread, op is going to compensate by being a huge ******* so he thinks he can get Women. Maybe he will, but I wouldn't be proud of compromising my integrity like that.
road Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Are you regularly going around telling women that you once upon a time were involved in drug trafficking?? That would scare the crap out of me... Scared, but turned on or turned off?
road Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I rather say I only date woman with a pant size 6 and under . :) Six! So you like the semi big one's?
Timshel Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) I think the Myers Briggs testing tool is a very good way of finding out what your basic temperament is. Free Personality Test | 16Personalities I don't know if you're familiar with the poem "If" by Rudyard Kipling Poems - If-- Hmmm......I took the test three times because the first I got INTJ, then INFJ. The third time broke the tie with INTJ! This poem is quite aspirational! If a person embodies these sentiments then congratulations, you're officially perfect! Thanks Taramere Edited April 20, 2015 by Timshel 1
Revolver Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Most men in prison have gfs waiting for them at home 1
Author Krieger Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Do you have access to counselling for times when you're struggling? I think people - not just women, but people generally - will tend to give you most respect and appreciate you when they sense that you respect yourself and are reasonably comfortable with who you are. In some people's case, "who I am" might be fairly aggressive and outspoken. In another person's case they might be more gentle and nurturing. Ideally, I think, people have the ability to be both in reasonable amounts. Too aggressive leads a person into obvious problems (fights, violence etc). Too nurturing can result in a person being exploited a bit and not really knowing how to express the anger connected to feeling unappreciated. I think the Myers Briggs testing tool is a very good way of finding out what your basic temperament is. Free Personality Test | 16Personalities So long, that is, as you don't feel imprisoned by your temperament. We're not just our basic temperaments. We're also our experiences, the things we've read, the music we listen to, the relationships we've had etc. Knowing your basic temperament and its strengths and weaknesses is, I think, a good starting point for knowing the core of who you are...then working with that rather than forever fighting it or feeling imprisoned by it. Where you're going wrong, I think, is in taking "what women want, once I've worked out whatever the hell that might be" as the thing you should be focusing on in your personal development. That won't help you. Knowing yourself, being true to yourself, learning to build on your strengths and managing your weaknesses effectively - these things are the key to your personal development. If you focus on trying to manage or control other people's - specifically women's - responses to you then you're only moving further and further away from understanding and mastering yourself and your emotions. Which is what, I think, you'd benefit from focusing on a bit more. I don't know if you're familiar with the poem "If" by Rudyard Kipling...but it tells, in far more eloquent terms, the message I'm trying to convey to you. Poems - If-- Thank for the help I look into that ASAP. thanks 1
Toodaloo Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Scared, but turned on or turned off? The biggest reaction from me before I walked away would be an eye brow raised... You would not hear from me again. 2
carhill Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 IME, women do want a good man; who they are attracted to is another matter and very difficult to place labels of 'good' and 'bad' on. I recall one MW in particular who would practically shout that her H as a 'good man!' but she was struggling with that attraction part. Eventually, he aligned his behaviors more into her attraction style and things seemed to have worked out. He's still 'good' but 'bad' enough to keep the attraction going. Heh, I'm lousy at that last part, but that's how life goes.
Redhead14 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Is it me or men that are worth a darn not bad enough? Well ladys I done things that will make your so called bad boy boyfriend look like a girl scout. Has you Bf been to juvenile correctional facility more than once? Also I done some drug trafficking with the intent to disrupt that if i was ever caught I would be seeing 5 to 20 years in jail so beat that. Oh not to brag but I am not talking about kids stuff I am talking about bottles full of schedule 2 prescription drugs. Now I do not do that anymore and do not talk to these people or want anything to do with them. I just grow up and done with that now. I said all that to prove a point that yes i can be a bad boy too try me. Well you know I am working and going to college now and getting my life in order sort of speak I am not going to tell you what I field I am going into. I just do not want people to think i am a bad person. That being said it seems to me that women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. Once the entertainment or novelty you provide her declines—and it inevitably will she moves on to something or someone else. In essence, the only way you can keep a girl is if you adopt the mentality of a soap opera writer, adding a cliffhanger to the end of each episode that keeps a woman interested when being a good man no longer does. Woman to me are more into losers with no goals or dreams in life.I am not wired to sit around all day and play ps4 . I know too many woman that put up with a guy sitting at home not wanting to work or help around the house. It seems OK for a guy not to be able to hold down a job or even try to look for one. The only thing i can think of is woman want to be entertained so badly that him working will cut into that. My question is why is it so hard to find a woman that wants to start a family and have kids . Yes I am all for woman working and having equal rights. My issue is some woman see men as the enemy and some woman see this as a game to one up there BF. I sorry woman it not a game if we are building a future together we are a team . I will be good at things and you will be good at things and we support one another but it seem woman are not interested in that. BTW I feel I am a good man I not perfect but who is ? I Don’t care much what others think of me , great public speaker you know wakes things happen , Call people on their bull**** and have a sensitive side even thought I try to hide it some times. LOL and have a sensitive side even thought I try to hide it some times. -- this entire post does that in every way. Women do want comfort and security, but if a man isn't sensitive to that, he's not going to attract that kind of woman. In the end, it's just about being patient and waiting to meet that special woman. Becoming blase and getting down on women as a gender, sure isn't going to help.
Author Krieger Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Who really wants to have kids with a drug trafficker? It's not a gene pool I would be interested in participating in. Well it was like 7 years ago could not find work and did what I had to do.
katiegrl Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) I actually admire and have a lot of respect for men like Krieger who made mistakes in the past, but have taken great strides in turning their lives around. A nurse practitioner? Great profession! Takes a very special and caring person to be a nurse. Obviously you are a very sensitive guy.. and I suspect this thread comes from a place of PAIN rather than from a "hatred" of women. You have a right to feel frustrated. Dating sucks and both women and men can be brutal!! But acting like douchebag is not the answer. If you do, YOU will be the one who pays the price ... as behaving like a douchebag will result in YOU feeling bad about YOURSELF! Because it is not who you really are ... and are only behaving that way as a defense so you don't get hurt. When in reality, behaving that way will only hurt you more, as you will feel so bad about yourself in the long run, that women will end up rejecting you for THAT! As no women respects a man who has so little SELF respect that he needs to resort to treating women like crap to avoid getting hurt. What you need are *boundaries* ... and a strong backbone! Don't tolerate shyt from women, plain and simple. When you see it happening, assertively tell her to knock it off or you're walking. And mean it! No need to lower yourself to her standards and treat her like crap. Just assertively say your peace, and if she continues with the bull shyt - you walk!! And with respect to women who only want to be entertained? You don't say anything, you just stop calling. Period, the end! I sense what you have been feeling is a loss of control with women you date, which has caused you to feel annihilated! To compensate, you think the answer is treating them like crap. Won't work for reasons stated above. You and you alone are in control of your own destiny. Don't give it up to some bimbo who doesn't appreciate all you have to offer (compassion, generosity, caring, sensitivity) and/or who wants to be entertained. Come on, you're better than that. Just walk away... quietly. No drama, no histrionics, no getting back at them, JUST WALK. You will feel better about yourself for doing so, raising your self esteem, and in turn attracting good women who also possess a decent dose of self esteem. We attract who we are! Edited April 20, 2015 by katiegrl 2
Phoe Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Scared, but turned on or turned off? Turned off, clearly. I'm surprised that's even a question. But that's just totally not my type of guy. I dated the marching band geek, the guy who writes poetry and science fiction, the guy who joined a local chess club. And I'm the kind of girl who got bullied for being a "goody two-shoes". Bad just isn't my thing. What if he got involved with the wrong type of people? I wouldn't feel safe... then again when it comes to "drama and excitement" I'm a complete pansy. Drama gives me stress. And stress gives me hives. Literally. So I much prefer calm and mellow. 1
ComingInHot Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 At work or at school I act aloof and only interject when I have something funny/witty/productive to say and I don't have any problems with the people there at all, even had some decent conversations with some of them. I would say am an introvert and can be very outgoing when up to it. I open up to people once i feel I can trust them.Also I am independent and do not need anyone it would be nice if I did. So, I happen to think that many Many women would be interested in the type of person described above. Are You however, interested in the type of women who want these qualities when they r looking for these strong self assured men? I only want a strong, kind witty, intelligent and 'naughty' in bed type man in my life and bed. Not bad. And Not 'boys'. CiH* Keep showing the above wonderful qualities and you will find many good women drawn to you. 1
DrReplyInRhymes Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Poems - If-- That poem is amazing, it encapsulates and epitomizes what it means to be a man, A journey every boy must make, a requirement to better understand, As for the misogynistic view of the poster, I can tell you from my life: Being an ******* doesn't work, my evidence? My lack of a wife. 1
SawtoothMars Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Turned off, clearly. I'm surprised that's even a question. But that's just totally not my type of guy. I dated the marching band geek, the guy who writes poetry and science fiction, the guy who joined a local chess club. And I'm the kind of girl who got bullied for being a "goody two-shoes". Bad just isn't my thing. What if he got involved with the wrong type of people? I wouldn't feel safe... then again when it comes to "drama and excitement" I'm a complete pansy. Drama gives me stress. And stress gives me hives. Literally. So I much prefer calm and mellow. Phoe, I really don't think you are the type of woman he is complaining about. Generally speaking... you are the kind of girl most of these guys say they want, but either can't seem to find or never bother to hit on. 1
loveweary11 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 This, exactly. Her whole post, but this part I'm speaking to. Some of the most exciting and attractive women are the ones who need this the most. One of the girls I see on and off (Miami, yoga instructor, stopped in south beach for impromptu modeling shoot for major magazine, on a couple reality shows) put me in a very uncomfortable situation. You know how you go to a club with someone and sometimes another dude will come up and dance with your date a moment? You're supposed to act all cool and not be stupid about it? Well this happened and she reciprocated to a level that was beyond what I felt was normal. So.., i walked up to her, told her I wasn't having a good time and I'm leaving. If you want me, I'll be outside the club and leaving. You have 2 minutes. I went outside, hailed a cab and got in to leave when she came running out in 30 seconds, tears streaming down with "I'm sorry" To her credit, she is terrible with this stuff. Hooked up with her ex boyfriend's friend on the ex boyfriend's birthday. Vanished on the ex while they were all at a club. I had a prior experience where she was too allowing in a different place when some guy cornered her. But it's necessary to make yourself heard. I took a see you later stand with her, actually expecting to just leave and she spent hours telling me how sorry she was. How she's bad with getting too drunk and acting like that. How it's something she's been working on a long time and that she understands if I don't want to see her again. She even told me she needs some babysitting and to be even more agressive with her in those situations. To just grab her. After all that, we started making out on the beach and had a great time back at the hotel room. For hours. This is one of the most attractive girls you'll ever see and after I took a stand, she was literally all over me and me alone. So, there is a lot of merit to this approach. What you need are *boundaries* ... and a strong backbone! Don't tolerate shyt from women, plain and simple. When you see it happening, assertively tell her to knock it off or you're walking. And mean it! No need to lower yourself to her standards and treat her like crap. Just assertively say your peace, and if she continues with the bull shyt - you walk!! Just walk away... quietly. No drama, no histrionics, no getting back at them, JUST WALK. You will feel better about yourself for doing so, raising your self esteem, and in turn attracting good women who also possess a decent dose of self esteem. We attract who we are! 2
SawtoothMars Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Well being myself not working and being nice does not work and being a 100% a hole does not work . I am kind of at a lost I know I need work on things but I am suck of being hurt by woman it sucks. It makes it hard when most woman have no clue what they want and want you to figure it our for them. Look, whether you know it or not Krieg means War... and life demands that you be a warrior. There is only a very limited space in this world for sensitive guys and you need to tamp that part of your personality down. You need to be a fighter... someone who doesn't give up... someone who refuses to let other people hold you down. Like I said there not much to be happy about when you are slowly come to the realization you going to die alone and never meet a good woman and have the opportunity to have a family and kids and build a life together . Sadly every passing day it seems more and more likely I die alone and be the crazy dog or cat guy on the block. Things look bad from where you are at, but you have many positive things going for you. Fact is that there are probably plenty of attractive girls interested in you... the problem is that you just can't see it.
Woggle Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 This, exactly. Her whole post, but this part I'm speaking to. Some of the most exciting and attractive women are the ones who need this the most. One of the girls I see on and off (Miami, yoga instructor, stopped in south beach for impromptu modeling shoot for major magazine, on a couple reality shows) put me in a very uncomfortable situation. You know how you go to a club with someone and sometimes another dude will come up and dance with your date a moment? You're supposed to act all cool and not be stupid about it? Well this happened and she reciprocated to a level that was beyond what I felt was normal. So.., i walked up to her, told her I wasn't having a good time and I'm leaving. If you want me, I'll be outside the club and leaving. You have 2 minutes. I went outside, hailed a cab and got in to leave when she came running out in 30 seconds, tears streaming down with "I'm sorry" To her credit, she is terrible with this stuff. Hooked up with her ex boyfriend's friend on the ex boyfriend's birthday. Vanished on the ex while they were all at a club. I had a prior experience where she was too allowing in a different place when some guy cornered her. But it's necessary to make yourself heard. I took a see you later stand with her, actually expecting to just leave and she spent hours telling me how sorry she was. How she's bad with getting too drunk and acting like that. How it's something she's been working on a long time and that she understands if I don't want to see her again. She even told me she needs some babysitting and to be even more agressive with her in those situations. To just grab her. After all that, we started making out on the beach and had a great time back at the hotel room. For hours. This is one of the most attractive girls you'll ever see and after I took a stand, she was literally all over me and me alone. So, there is a lot of merit to this approach. I would have still left. Simply can't tolerate an overgrown little girl I have to babysit. If she can't act right on her own accord then see ya. 3
loveweary11 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I would have still left. Simply can't tolerate an overgrown little girl I have to babysit. If she can't act right on her own accord then see ya. I did. I was in the cab and didn't see her run up to it. Fully thought I wasn't going to see her again. A lot of the girls I see are kind of overgrown little girls. Early 20's, still figuring herself out. I think this is the downside of dating younger... :/
KatZee Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I can say this exact same thing about dudes. :lmao: Dudes aren't looking for anything serious, they just want to spin as many plates as they possibly can. Dudes don't want down to earth, sane, mentally stable women. They want immature drama seekers who are "exciting." I have a career, I'm smart, funny, attractive, fun, adventurous, blah blah freaking blah. I haven't had a boyfriend in three years. Meanwhile all around me if you're an: addict, promiscuous person, lunatic, emotionally all over the map, you can get a boyfriend. I have literally thought, on more than one occasion, that maybe I should just pretend to be absolutely bats_h!t crazy.
Woggle Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I can say this exact same thing about dudes. :lmao: Dudes aren't looking for anything serious, they just want to spin as many plates as they possibly can. Dudes don't want down to earth, sane, mentally stable women. They want immature drama seekers who are "exciting." I have a career, I'm smart, funny, attractive, fun, adventurous, blah blah freaking blah. I haven't had a boyfriend in three years. Meanwhile all around me if you're an: addict, promiscuous person, lunatic, emotionally all over the map, you can get a boyfriend. I have literally thought, on more than one occasion, that maybe I should just pretend to be absolutely bats_h!t crazy. On the next date randomly kiss some guy then start a fight for no reason at all then start crying and screaming and playing the victim when he takes an issue with it. It might just work. I am just kidding. 1
Blade96 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Is it me or men that are worth a darn not bad enough? Well ladys I done things that will make your so called bad boy boyfriend look like a girl scout. Has you Bf been to juvenile correctional facility more than once? Also I done some drug trafficking with the intent to disrupt that if i was ever caught I would be seeing 5 to 20 years in jail so beat that. Oh not to brag but I am not talking about kids stuff I am talking about bottles full of schedule 2 prescription drugs. Now I do not do that anymore and do not talk to these people or want anything to do with them. I just grow up and done with that now. I said all that to prove a point that yes i can be a bad boy too try me. Well you know I am working and going to college now and getting my life in order sort of speak I am not going to tell you what I field I am going into. I just do not want people to think i am a bad person. That being said it seems to me that women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. Once the entertainment or novelty you provide her declines—and it inevitably will she moves on to something or someone else. In essence, the only way you can keep a girl is if you adopt the mentality of a soap opera writer, adding a cliffhanger to the end of each episode that keeps a woman interested when being a good man no longer does. Woman to me are more into losers with no goals or dreams in life.I am not wired to sit around all day and play ps4 . I know too many woman that put up with a guy sitting at home not wanting to work or help around the house. It seems OK for a guy not to be able to hold down a job or even try to look for one. The only thing i can think of is woman want to be entertained so badly that him working will cut into that. My question is why is it so hard to find a woman that wants to start a family and have kids . Yes I am all for woman working and having equal rights. My issue is some woman see men as the enemy and some woman see this as a game to one up there BF. I sorry woman it not a game if we are building a future together we are a team . I will be good at things and you will be good at things and we support one another but it seem woman are not interested in that. BTW I feel I am a good man I not perfect but who is ? I Don’t care much what others think of me , great public speaker you know wakes things happen , Call people on their bull**** and have a sensitive side even thought I try to hide it some times. LOL You're probably attracting hybristophiles - in which case yup, lots of them will happily accomodate you.
KatZee Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 On the next date randomly kiss some guy then start a fight for no reason at all then start crying and screaming and playing the victim when he takes an issue with it. It might just work. I am just kidding. To be honest, I'd probably get a second date after this. Sad, right???! 1
KatZee Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 but when a nice guy asks for a second date he gets rejected in favor of a jerk who's spinning 12 plates Says who? You? I most certainly won't pass up a good guy who's interested in dating me and only me, and who I find attractive.
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