Revan32 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 I'm his first real relationship. I don't understand why you think it's ok to trick someone like ME (low count, deliberately choosy, careful) into a relationship with someone who is the complete opposite. Doesn't seem right. Women lie about their laycount ALL the time. Have you really always been 100% truthful about it when asked? Girls usually ask me about my dating history on the first or second date. I for one don't think its any of their business that early in the relationship. If they asked a few months in I'd tell them. I've had a few occasions here in LA where I was with a girl that I was strongly interested in being in a relationship with. But as soon as they heard my lack of relationship material, they seemed like they automatically assumed I was only interested in a one night stand. That was one of the big reasons I ended up sleeping around so much after I moved here. I was home schooled for high school and lived out in the country with zero girls. From 17-22 I traveled around the world a lot, which prevented me from seriously dating anyone. Though that was back when I was still really nervous around girls which was probably the bigger problem. So even at 22 I didn't look good with zero experience. If I had started fibbing back then, i'd probably be in a happy relationship right now.
elaine567 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 That's true if he gets addicted. But I think a lot of guys realize the previously mentioned benefits, but are still able to walk away afterwards and realize the difference between fantasy and reality. And that is what I meant about "comfortable down that route", he sees prostitutes as the norm, he is in his comfort zone with prostitutes, he doesn't seek out other women. 3
elaine567 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 I'm his first real relationship. I don't understand why you think it's ok to trick someone like ME (low count, deliberately choosy, careful) into a relationship with someone who is the complete opposite. Doesn't seem right. It's not about being right, it is about getting what he wants.
Revan32 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 When I said comfortable down that route I meant they use prostitutes regularly, like the OPs man does. You, appear to dislike women a lot. Did she say regularly? I thought she said something like 10 times? Which depending on how old he is, and when he first started really isn't that much. What have I said that makes you think I dislike women? You're free to think that of me, but its hardly true. I just don't respect greed in any form. No matter who from.
Revan32 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 It's not about being right, it is about getting what he wants. So what if I get what I want? I'm successful at life, ambitious, caring and extremely loyal. What ever girl I end up with will be very well taken cared of, and loved deeply. If I could have found the right girl when I was 19, I would have settled down right there and then. I just haven't found her yet, and have had a lot of girls want to sleep with me in the mean time.
elaine567 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 What have I said that makes you think I dislike women? You're free to think that of me, but its hardly true. I just don't respect greed in any form. No matter who from. It isn't about your greedy prostitute comments, but they do underline your thinking too.
Revan32 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 It isn't about your greedy prostitute comments, but they do underline your thinking too. Its lucky then that I don't spend a whole lot of time thinking about greedy prostitutes.
Author EveAFlame Posted April 17, 2015 Author Posted April 17, 2015 Women lie about their laycount ALL the time. Have you really always been 100% truthful about it when asked? Girls usually ask me about my dating history on the first or second date. I for one don't think its any of their business that early in the relationship. If they asked a few months in I'd tell them. I've had a few occasions here in LA where I was with a girl that I was strongly interested in being in a relationship with. But as soon as they heard my lack of relationship material, they seemed like they automatically assumed I was only interested in a one night stand. That was one of the big reasons I ended up sleeping around so much after I moved here. I was home schooled for high school and lived out in the country with zero girls. From 17-22 I traveled around the world a lot, which prevented me from seriously dating anyone. Though that was back when I was still really nervous around girls which was probably the bigger problem. So even at 22 I didn't look good with zero experience. If I had started fibbing back then, i'd probably be in a happy relationship right now. Yes always truthful. I'm not ashamed that I've been with 2 people sexually. If I am rejected because I haven't had much experience then he's not the guy for me. If I end up rejecting him romantically over this, I hope he wouldnt go on to LIE to the next girl. I've made it abundantly clear that his honesty has been so awesome and I appreciate him giving me a chance to make my choices armed with all the information. I much prefer the quiet, shy, introverted geeky type. That's who I am! I thought that is who he was! Personality wise we totally mesh. Morally? I don't know.
Revan32 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Yes always truthful. I'm not ashamed that I've been with 2 people sexually. If I am rejected because I haven't had much experience then he's not the guy for me. If I end up rejecting him romantically over this, I hope he wouldnt go on to LIE to the next girl. I've made it abundantly clear that his honesty has been so awesome and I appreciate him giving me a chance to make my choices armed with all the information. I much prefer the quiet, shy, introverted geeky type. That's who I am! I thought that is who he was! Personality wise we totally mesh. Morally? I don't know. I understand your reasoning, believe me. But I'm tired of being discounted for having relationship potential. I have literally seen threads on this site where a girl who's slept around a lot and is tired of being used gets encouraged to lie about her laycount by numerous female posters. If I was a girl posting on here I'd bet money that a few girls would be siding with me trying to help me find a relationship. But to be clear, i'm not going to be outright lying to anyone. I've dated a few girls for a decent amount of time that just didn't work out for other reasons. We were never official, but Its not that much of a stretch to go ahead and say we were in a relationship. Especially if i'm getting interrogated on the first date.
elaine567 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 If I was a girl posting on here I'd bet money that a few girls would be siding with me trying to help me find a relationship. . OK make a new thread and we will try and help you. 1
SincereOnlineGuy Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I don't understand why you think it's ok to trick someone like ME (low count, deliberately choosy, careful) into a relationship Where is the so-called "trick" (in your context, I mean) ? It sounds like he spelled it out for you, now where is the deceit or the magic involved??
elaine567 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Where is the so-called "trick" (in your context, I mean) ? It sounds like he spelled it out for you, now where is the deceit or the magic involved?? She is talking about Revan32 tricking lowcount women into believing he is the same.
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Low count high count. People should just learn to be secure with themselves and it shouldn't matter. I would never next someone based on their count, high or low/nonexistent.
guest569 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Low count high count. People should just learn to be secure with themselves and it shouldn't matter. I would never next someone based on their count, high or low/nonexistent. Me neither but I would next someone who lies about it. I still say OP needs to either sort out this issue because the issue lies with her, not her boyfriend, or move on.
SincereOnlineGuy Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 She is talking about Revan32 tricking lowcount women into believing he is the same. OK, as I said: Where is the trick involved in all of this??? There was no trick to it at all.
123321 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 OK, as I said: Where is the trick involved in all of this??? There was no trick to it at all. He was supposed to put a notch on his dick every time.
Revan32 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 She is talking about Revan32 tricking lowcount women into believing he is the same. Actually if you check all my posts, I never once said I was going to lie about my laycount. I intend to slightly fib about my relationship experience. So instead of telling the girl I've never had a girlfriend, I'll instead tell her about the German girl who I was crazy about, but who was also a little crazy herself and dated sporadically on and off for 3 months before she broke it off because I wanted a relationship and she didn't. I'll also claim the girl i've been causally seeing for over a year, but haven't gone official with yet because she's 8 years older than me and wants to stay single so she can marry an old rich guy, as a past girlfriend too. Sorry about those two way too long sentences.
Revolver Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 There's nothing wrong with the guy who hooks up with bar sluts for "free" but the guy who pays for sex with hookers is a demon.
guest569 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Actually if you check all my posts, I never once said I was going to lie about my laycount. I intend to slightly fib about my relationship experience. So instead of telling the girl I've never had a girlfriend, I'll instead tell her about the German girl who I was crazy about, but who was also a little crazy herself and dated sporadically on and off for 3 months before she broke it off because I wanted a relationship and she didn't. I'll also claim the girl i've been causally seeing for over a year, but haven't gone official with yet because she's 8 years older than me and wants to stay single so she can marry an old rich guy, as a past girlfriend too. Sorry about those two way too long sentences. You are kidding, right? I would classify them as girlfriends
Revan32 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 You are kidding, right? I would classify them as girlfriends I don't consider it official until we actually start calling each other bf/gf and stop seeing other people. But yeah its not much of a stretch, which is why I've been saying I will be fibbing, not outright lying. The ladies on here just like to pounce with their claws out! Meeeooowww!
guest569 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I don't consider it official until we actually start calling each other bf/gf and stop seeing other people. But yeah its not much of a stretch, which is why I've been saying I will be fibbing, not outright lying. The ladies on here just like to pounce with their claws out! Meeeooowww! Do they. Anyway, i say honesty is the best policy, always.
elaine567 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 There's nothing wrong with the guy who hooks up with bar sluts for "free" but the guy who pays for sex with hookers is a demon. Have you actually read the thread? Er... no. EvAFlame does NOT want to be with that sort of guy either, who does? Women do not want "manwhores" for serious relationships any more than men want "sluts". Casual yes maybe. Relationship material definitely no.
Revan32 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Have you actually read the thread? Er... no. EvAFlame does NOT want to be with that sort of guy either, who does? Women do not want "manwhores" for serious relationships any more than men want "sluts". Casual yes maybe. Relationship material definitely no. In your own words You miss the point, a person who has had 20 partners is showing the ability to connect with 20 women. 20 women, who of their own free will, decided to sleep with him. He therefore has the ability to attract women at some level, so therefore has something going for him. Most girls don't actually seem that bothered by a guy with a high lay count. Like you said, it means that he must have a lot going for him if so many women find him desirable. Of course some girls do want a less experienced guy, just like some guys want a very experienced girl. Though I've found neither of them to be the majority by any means.
elaine567 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 In your own words Most girls don't actually seem that bothered by a guy with a high lay count. Like you said, it means that he must have a lot going for him if so many women find him desirable. Of course some girls do want a less experienced guy, just like some guys want a very experienced girl. Though I've found neither of them to be the majority by any means. Yes, given the choice man-whore or prostitute user, yes man-whore wins, but man-whore doesn't win over man with low count or man with multiple LTRs, in the eyes of those women who want serious relationships. How a man treats women in general matters to those women. History often dictates the future, and the risks are then seen to be high in any man who uses women just for sex, is willing to cheat, or who is a prostitute user or a strip club aficionado I guess women who just want casual sex or short term flings, do not really care about high counts and other bigger risk activities.
LookAtThisPOst Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 In your own words Most girls don't actually seem that bothered by a guy with a high lay count. Like you said, it means that he must have a lot going for him if so many women find him desirable. Of course some girls do want a less experienced guy, just like some guys want a very experienced girl. Though I've found neither of them to be the majority by any means. There's women out there who have no problem with lay count or even having casual sex, but I do agree, if they find out a man's been with a single hooker, he's a social pariah. Thing is these women don't like being compared to hookers when the characteristics of both are dead on.
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