fortyninethousand322 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Because even in the event that some women would want to have sex in the anniversary it doesn't need to be with you Well, there's no guarantee for the OP that a hooker would accept his business. It's one of the last businesses that still has a right to refuse service. I think the odds are pretty good at a reunion. No guarantee, but the odds are pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Im fine with it. I think a man using an escort is being honest with himself. It makes more sense than taking a girl on a date when really he just wanted sex. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sanman Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 While I am not sure that visiting a prostitute will accomplish what the OP is looking for, I do have to laugh at all he judgement people make about a man visiting a pro. One thing I have learned is that morality involves very little black and white and many shades of grey. While I agree that there are negatives to prostitution, the guy is not suggesting he rape anyone. In some ways I think it is more honest and causes less pain. While some suggest that prostitution is using a woman, is it more harmful than stringing a person along because you want sex and comfort even though there is no future there allowing someone to waste months or years of their life on you? Is it worse than having an FWB with someone that really has feelings for you and discarding them when their feelings become too much to handle? Cheating on someone or relationship hopping to the next best person? Sleeping with someone who is drunk, just out of a relationship and vulnerable, or who you know is an emotional train wreck? There are many ways that one can make a moral judgement, but rarely can one judge accurately based such little evidence. The truth is that those who visit prostitutes are just like everyone else... trying to get a long in life the best way they know how. That said, I don't think that going to a prostitute will solve all your problems. It may make you more comfortable with sex, but not with the other aspects of dating/relationships and even then it will take more than one experience to make you comfortable. There is no substitute for relationship. You need to learn many aspects of being in one other than sex. As an aside, there was a big prostitution bust that made the news around here lately. It gives an interesting face to the men who visit pros: Operation Flush the Johns: Wives and families react to Long Island prostitution arrests | Mail Online 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pompeii Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) As an aside, there was a big prostitution bust that made the news around here lately. It gives an interesting face to the men who visit pros: Operation Flush the Johns: Wives and families react to Long Island prostitution arrests | Mail Online Damn... that's ****ing crazy. These are normal guys too. Men from all walks of life use prostitutes. You can't pin this on any one type of guy. That's the thing. Prostitution like McDonalds or apple products will never go away though. There's too much demand for it Like drugs, even. In fact, I see the demand for prostitution skyrocketing in the next 30 years. The return on investment you get from women these days is dwindling just like everything else. College degrees, master's degrees, property, etc. Lots of men are delaying marriage to later years or even opting out altogether simply because there aren't that many women worth putting it all on the line for. We will see more busts in the coming years with even more men simply because many realize that marriage is just a bad thing. It should also be no surprise that women voted to make prostitution illegal in the US and for Prohibition. Edited July 20, 2013 by Pompeii Link to post Share on other sites
ImSoPathetic Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 He's a virgin himself.....forgive him, he doesn't know the way. What's the way? Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Operation Flush the Johns: Wives and families react to Long Island prostitution arrests | Mail Online Somewhat off topic: Meanwhile, as we worry about people having consensual sex, half of violent crimes go unsolves as well as 80% of property crimes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 You've been "threatening" to go see a hooker/escort for nearly a year on this site. If you really believe it is your only option and you want to do it to gain some experience, then just go do it. Stop being the little boy who cried wolf. Or are you planning on posting another thread about going to see an escort in three months? Are you hoping people will talk you out of it? I think he's waiting for somebody to start up a "Lose the V" fund, so he doesn't have to pay for it himself. Anybody want to donate $5 to his cause? Please PM me your credit card info. Link to post Share on other sites
Joyvke Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I wouldn't. Some thing about escorts is just disgusting :/. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 IMO, escorts should be used more as a "I'm really drunk and on vacation; and I'm feeling lazy. Let me call an escort!" type of situation as opposed to a "I need to up my confidence with women" situation. Agree... Or maybe if you had a long dry spell because of work.business committments or just didnt want the whole dog and pony show of a relationship to get sex...Maybe TFY 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RedRobin Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Answer to the question... no. I read the article about busting the Johns. Sounds great to me. Only catch is make sure they are convicted first. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtucker Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Answer to the question... no. I read the article about busting the Johns. Sounds great to me. Only catch is make sure they are convicted first. Those guys are really stupid. The smart ones avoid capture. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RedRobin Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Work on your social skills, your self esteem, your approach to women, your confidence level, your sense of humor, etc. Those are the things that will actually help you get the relationship you want. Having sex with a prostitute will make no difference whatsoever in your ability to get real women, and after spending that $300 or whatever for the hour, you will be no better off in your ability to interact with women. Ditto. There is a certain someone on this board who had lots of problems finding dates who met a very nice girl in a dance class. ... Taking dance classes gets men physically comfortable around women and teaches you how to move. These are important skills that translate to the bedroom. Heck. Take ballet. It will give you a friggin killer physique and awesome posture. Some modern dance works too. I'm betting they all started with ballet. Here is one of my faves.... Plus with dance you get to manage (in some small way) issues of touch deprivation... which I do totally GET. There have been studies that have been done on the psychological problems caused by touch deprivation. It is real, and I understand that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
LivingWaterPlease Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Yes, would date a man who had used escorts for sex if he had changed his ways. Did, in fact, date such a man. He had lots of attractive women wanting to date him. Lots. Was a very good looking, charismatic, successful businessman. Think he did the escort thing because it was convenient, especially in his travels. Never had sex with him but we considered marriage. He had become a Christian and no longer slept with women outside of marriage. My beliefs are the same so it was a good match! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pompeii Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Bullcrap. People don't change. Period. Those that are offered second chances will do the same thing over and over. In fact, the offer of a "second chance" guarantees it. They had a chance to prove themself once and obviously didn't. What logical reason is there for them to change? Especially if folks will give them an opportunity once again. Ludicrous to believe people change. This is funny. You better get those cataracts out of your eyes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pompeii Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'm talking about absolute values and attitudes. They don't change without serious work that takes yrs to accomplish, if ever. Because someone stops using drugs, alcohol, prostitutes etc does not mean they changed their values or attitudes... they simply stopped using them. Its temporary. The "dry drunk" as its called. Ya, I might be a lil older, but that's ok I don't have cataracts, lmao (good one ) Well, if you put it like that we might as well just commit suicide en masse because we will never change or progress which is the entire purpose of life. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtucker Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Well, if you put it like that we might as well just commit suicide en masse because we will never change or progress which is the entire purpose of life. Some guy probably stood her up or something....or her husband was insensitive...or it's that time of the month. One of the three (I don't know her background). Link to post Share on other sites
camillalev Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I wouldn't date a guy who has bought women for sex. Link to post Share on other sites
camillalev Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 That's a pretty broad assumption to make, don't you think? For every story I hear like this, I hear another story of a woman who got into the sex industry and absolutely loves it. I live in a country where the sex industry is legal. I even met a prostitute at a party once. She had some stories! But she loves her job. I met a stripper once too. Also some interesting stories. And some expensive shoes! You could try not being so rude next time. I've met people who worked in the sex industry as well, though not legally. One was a 19 year old boy who looked like he was going on 29. He's gay, loved sex, claimed to love what he did, went to sex parties, received free sex toys, etc. Though anyone who was remotely close to him knew its toll on him. I've read many blogs by women who worked in the escort industry, though many of them enjoyed it and thought it was inconsequential at first, they all ended up saying it took a toll on them in the long-run. Almost all of them have at one time or another been forced into acts they didnt want to commit. A lot of them think its easy money and relatively fun at first, but that doesnt last. Its a complicated issue with many sides. I'm sure there is a small percentage of women who do genuinely enjoy it, others who claim to then years later finally admit the toll its taken on them, then the vast majority - who would absolutely rather be doing anything else. I personally could not be with a man who paid money to have an orgasm inside another human beings body. Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyConcept Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 What about guys who were with gold-diggers who were taken out on "proper" dates? Should they be permanently off limits too? After all there is no difference between two in technical sense. Link to post Share on other sites
tbf Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Women, would you date a guy who had used escorts in the past? Not a chance for the following reasons: STIs/STDsA glaring difference in sexual values and morality. Sexual currency is disgusting.Considering how easy it is to get free sex, why would he need to pay for it? Link to post Share on other sites
Nikki Sahagin Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I personally couldnt because i am against the sex trade and sex industry morally. It would be a deal breaker for me. I find men who pay escorts and prostitutes disgusting and dirty. Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I wouldn't date a guy who has bought women for sex. What if it cost him a cheeseburger, fries and chocolate shake at McDonald? How about a blowjob under the table from some drunk chick at a club after buying her a drink? How about three dates, average cost per date @$75 and finally she can let her inner slut out while still respecting herself in the morning because she "didn't give it up so easily". Link to post Share on other sites
Nikki Sahagin Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Imported...speaking on behalf of the thread you refernced, i wouldnt find any of those behaviours to my taste eithe but it is still very different from paying money into the sex trade. Link to post Share on other sites
camillalev Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) What if it cost him a cheeseburger, fries and chocolate shake at McDonald? Lol, is this a college date? How about a blowjob under the table from some drunk chick at a club after buying her a drink? How about three dates, average cost per date @$75 and finally she can let her inner slut out while still respecting herself in the morning because she "didn't give it up so easily". Two consenting adults can do as they please. Seems like these women chose to go on a date and have sex because they wanted to or felt attraction - not because some random stranger found them in craigslist and paid them money to spread their legs. Dates arent an exchange for sex - its about getting to know someone and establishing attraction. No woman I know thinks 'this guy treated me to dinner, now I owe him sex!' If you think women have had sex with you simply because you bought her dinner or a drink.. that's a pretty messed up way of evaluating someones attraction to you. Also a woman having sex of her own free will is not a 'slut'. Edited July 23, 2013 by camillalev Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Women, would you date a guy who had used escorts in the past? Not a chance for the following reasons: STIs/STDsA glaring difference in sexual values and morality. Sexual currency is disgusting.Considering how easy it is to get free sex, why would he need to pay for it? I strongly dispute the last notion. So so incorrect on so many levels. I'd bet money on it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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