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Why even doubt her at all?

 

How do you know she hasn't been lurking for a while and decided to make an account to share her story?

 

That's actually what most members do actually, that or they make a thread asking for help.

 

Last time I checked, this isn't a trial.

 

I know it must really suck for you to think that a woman can actually choose to be a prostitute because you are completely biased against prostitution and believe that everything related to it is evil. Having her post completely goes against your belief and all you can do is try to discount it.

 

Exactly :)

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Why even doubt her at all?

 

How do you know she hasn't been lurking for a while and decided to make an account to share her story?

 

That's actually what most members do actually, that or they make a thread asking for help.

 

Last time I checked, this isn't a trial.

 

I know it must really suck for you to think that a woman can actually choose to be a prostitute because you are completely biased against prostitution and believe that everything related to it is evil. Having her post completely goes against your belief and all you can do is try to discount it.

Reminds me of my old thread lol

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/311310-male-virgin-seeing-escort

 

Pretty much reads almost the same....

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Even if you are real, yours is the experience of one person and a handful of others you know personally. That is anecdotal evidence and is generally agreed to mean very little.

 

Scott

 

Agreed. I could equally present anecdotal evidence relating to former clients of mine who were prostitutes. Chaotic upbringings, mental health problems and drug abuse were common themes. Colleagues of mine can tell similar tales.

 

I'm sure these PR for Sex Industry Workers presentations that are periodically provided are well intended. Undoubtedly this is a stigmatised group, and people want to present a different face to the stereotypes.

 

However, their existence doesn't negate that of the people who do very much fit into those stereotypes of being people with a host of problems and very limited options. People for whom prostitution was an option because they didn't need education, skills or references to do it...and it was cash that they could make without losing their benefits. And like Anonymous, they are legion.

 

It seems ludicrous for middle class women who've made a nice little earner for themselves by sleeping with men for money to pretend they speak for prostitutes generally and present the whole thing as though prostitutes belong to some professional association which requires them to meet the highest of standards. Good God.

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Agreed. I could equally present anecdotal evidence relating to former clients of mine who were prostitutes. Chaotic upbringings, mental health problems and drug abuse were common themes. Colleagues of mine can tell similar tales.

 

I'm sure these PR for Sex Industry Workers presentations that are periodically provided are well intended. Undoubtedly this is a stigmatised group, and people want to present a different face to the stereotypes.

 

However, their existence doesn't negate that of the people who do very much fit into those stereotypes of being people with a host of problems and very limited options. People for whom prostitution was an option because they didn't need education, skills or references to do it...and it was cash that they could make without losing their benefits. And like Anonymous, they are legion.

 

It seems ludicrous for middle class women who've made a nice little earner for themselves by sleeping with men for money to pretend they speak for prostitutes generally and present the whole thing as though prostitutes belong to some professional association which requires them to meet the highest of standards. Good God.

There are two sides to almost everything. Just because some people were forced into doing something, doesn't mean that nobody has ever chosen to do it.

 

Yes there is a dark side to prostitution, just like there is for many other "professions."

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Agreed. I could equally present anecdotal evidence relating to former clients of mine who were prostitutes. Chaotic upbringings, mental health problems and drug abuse were common themes. Colleagues of mine can tell similar tales.

 

I'm sure these PR for Sex Industry Workers presentations that are periodically provided are well intended. Undoubtedly this is a stigmatised group, and people want to present a different face to the stereotypes.

 

However, their existence doesn't negate that of the people who do very much fit into those stereotypes of being people with a host of problems and very limited options. People for whom prostitution was an option because they didn't need education, skills or references to do it...and it was cash that they could make without losing their benefits. And like Anonymous, they are legion.

 

It seems ludicrous for middle class women who've made a nice little earner for themselves by sleeping with men for money to pretend they speak for prostitutes generally and present the whole thing as though prostitutes belong to some professional association which requires them to meet the highest of standards. Good God.

 

 

I never said I was speaking for all prostitutes, I was speaking of my experience, and those around me. Everyone is aware of the bad sides of it, I was attempting to show you a side you had perhaps ignored before. I never said I was part of a professional organisation of what not- but one that SUPPORTS prostitutes.

 

All this thread has been about is women who have been forced into it from one thing or another. But that's only half the story. That's fine though, ignore the positive experience of some of us to suit your own agenda.

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I never said I was speaking for all prostitutes, I was speaking of my experience, and those around me. Everyone is aware of the bad sides of it, I was attempting to show you a side you had perhaps ignored before. I never said I was part of a professional organisation of what not- but one that SUPPORTS prostitutes.

 

All this thread has been about is women who have been forced into it from one thing or another. But that's only half the story. That's fine though, ignore the positive experience of some of us to suit your own agenda.

 

I don't have an agenda. I don't care if other women prostitute themselves, provided they do it freely and aren't coerced into it. As far as people presenting a "prostitute as empowered person enjoying what she does and making a lot of money out of it" side goes....I really don't see a shortage of that in the media - and we've certainly seen it on here before too.

 

What I would say there's a shortage of is any kind of realistic picture falling in between the two stereotypes of the trainwreck and the Empowered Belle du Jour.

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I don't have an agenda. I don't care if other women prostitute themselves, provided they do it freely and aren't coerced into it. As far as people presenting a "prostitute as empowered person enjoying what she does and making a lot of money out of it" side goes....I really don't see a shortage of that in the media - and we've certainly seen it on here before too.

 

What I would say there's a shortage of is any kind of realistic picture falling in between the two stereotypes of the trainwreck and the Empowered Belle du Jour.

 

Well maybe if we weren't personally persecuted every time we wanted to voice our opinion, then we would be able to give you a realistic representation of the industry. But as long as we have to defend ourselves how do you expect us to be honest?

 

All I have had to do since I posted was defend my choice. I don't mind and I'm not afraid to share the realities of the job; but someone has to want to hear it.

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Instead of wasting your time feeling sorry for me (which I'm baffled by) maybe you should attribute more blame to the two people who made a life time commitment to each other, and are breaking that commitment.

 

I am not breaking any commitment to anyone, nor forcing anyone to have sex with me.

 

It's like you are treating the issue of cheating and prostitution as the same thing, and the two things are completely separate issues.

 

Also I never have to justify it; I never even give it a second thought.

The wife is not to blame. You are to blame equally with the cheating husband, since you purposely, knowingly advertise to him your "services", and knowingly enable him to cheat on his wife and family. So you're not breaking any commitment, but you are enabling, consorting with him to break his commitment. You are not forcing him to have sex, but you are advertising to him and enticing him to break his commitment, with no regard for the damage that your complicity causes. Cheating and prostitution are very much intertwined with each other, since your customer is cheating when he engages in your services. You are enabling him to cheat. By your actions, he is cheating on his wife. Most of your customers are cheaters. Some may not admit it, but that doesn't mean that they aren't. But you obviously don't care about that, and the damage done to marriages and families by your actions, and like you said, you don't give it a second thought, so I guess I'm wasting my time trying to spark a little compassion for those whose lives are destroyed because of what you choose to do as your profession.

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Well maybe if we weren't personally persecuted every time we wanted to voice our opinion, then we would be able to give you a realistic representation of the industry. But as long as we have to defend ourselves how do you expect us to be honest?

 

All I have had to do since I posted was defend my choice. I don't mind and I'm not afraid to share the realities of the job; but someone has to want to hear it.

 

I understand that you want to present a different side from the negative "coerced victim" one. However, I think in trying to do that you've presented it as this fabulous working from home opportunity....ie...

 

Many of this depends on what you stereotype us as. I am not a streetwalker, nor do I work in a brothel. I work out of my own residence- with practised security measures and I keep the full fee that I receive.

 

So you don't have a pimp who would take some of your fee but would also offer some security from potentially dangerous clients. Neither do you work from a brothel which could also screen clients and provide some security. You're saying that you work in supporting other prostitutes, so presumably you take the healthy, safety and security of prostitutes generally very seriously.

 

What I don't, then, understand is why you would come onto this site which is read by plenty of young women, some of whom might think "hey...this sounds like a plan to solve my financial/work problems" and present what is a fairly idealistic picture of the whole thing without acknowledging the very real risk of potentially violent clients.

 

How do you keep yourself secure? How do you screen clients in advance so that you minimise the likelihood of being raped or beaten up by a real charmer? What if a client gets violent with you? You've talked about protection in terms of protection from STDs, but you've not touched on this very serious risk of running into a psychopath who wants to hurt a woman and sees a prostitute working on her own as an easy target.

 

That's the part I don't find realistic, when it seems like such an obvious risk in an occupation like yours.

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I understand that you want to present a different side from the negative "coerced victim" one. However, I think in trying to do that you've presented it as this fabulous working from home opportunity....ie...

 

 

 

So you don't have a pimp who would take some of your fee but would also offer some security from potentially dangerous clients. Neither do you work from a brothel which could also screen clients and provide some security. You're saying that you work in supporting other prostitutes, so presumably you take the healthy, safety and security of prostitutes generally very seriously.

 

What I don't, then, understand is why you would come onto this site which is read by plenty of young women, some of whom might think "hey...this sounds like a plan to solve my financial/work problems" and present what is a fairly idealistic picture of the whole thing without acknowledging the very real risk of potentially violent clients.

 

How do you keep yourself secure? How do you screen clients in advance so that you minimise the likelihood of being raped or beaten up by a real charmer? What if a client gets violent with you? You've talked about protection in terms of protection from STDs, but you've not touched on this very serious risk of running into a psychopath who wants to hurt a woman and sees a prostitute working on her own as an easy target.

 

That's the part I don't find realistic, when it seems like such an obvious risk in an occupation like yours.

 

I've already explained why I haven't explained the negatives, because all I've had to do since I first posted was defend my occupation. It's hard to be judged and not want to defend yourself. Plus everyone has gone on for something like 12 pages about all of the negatives, so I wanted to talk about the positives.

 

If you want the REAL negatives here they are:

 

Safety Considerations:

When I have a client that is coming to my working flat (which is not where I live) I have a security buddy that I call when the client get's there. He hears this phone call and knows that if I am late checking back in at the end of the appointment the police will be there in 10 minutes.

 

I take the money at the beginning of the appointment and put it in a safe. I have a rape alarm by my bed.

 

Screening clients depends on whether they are coming to me or I am going to them. If I am going to them then I need there full address and check this against the electoral role. I do not give out my address until I can see them outside.

 

I have a strict booking procedure, and after a while you immediately know if someone is just a timewaster (someone that gets off on making an appointment and never showing up) or someone more sinister. I can't really describe what it is, but specific questions and attitudes make alarm bells ring.

 

What you have to understand, the risk I am at though is very minimal, and the violence towards girls like myself experience is rare. It happens but not as often as you might think.

 

There are other, less serious negatives, like:

Hiding it from friends and family

Men with bad hygiene (never an issue with me, I have a strict shower policy)

Timewasters (it can get annoying after a while)

Having a client that you just don't vibe with

 

Some other considerations:

Starting can be expensive if you want to do it properly (photos, websites, advertising etc)

Right now (as none of you will realise) there isn't as much money in it as there was a year or two ago, and people massively overestimate what you earn.

Issues around self-employment

 

To me it's a great job, to others it might not be. It's a personal choice.

But you have negatives with any job, and to me it's part of it.

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I don't think lowly of hookers. Get that money! It's better than letting every guy **** you for free right?

 

I know a guy who is somewhat of a hooker. Little do rich husbands know what their wives "really" do on those business trips? If you haven't touched your wife in like--forever? Better believe she's getting a young 20 yr old, well hung to do it.

 

But its more common among women. Hookers have been around longer than we all know. In some shape or form.

 

I don't fret about it. Cuz who am I to judge a person on how they make their money? Do what you do.

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The wife is not to blame. You are to blame equally with the cheating husband, since you purposely, knowingly advertise to him your "services", and knowingly enable him to cheat on his wife and family. So you're not breaking any commitment, but you are enabling, consorting with him to break his commitment. You are not forcing him to have sex, but you are advertising to him and enticing him to break his commitment, with no regard for the damage that your complicity causes. Cheating and prostitution are very much intertwined with each other, since your customer is cheating when he engages in your services. You are enabling him to cheat. By your actions, he is cheating on his wife. Most of your customers are cheaters. Some may not admit it, but that doesn't mean that they aren't. But you obviously don't care about that, and the damage done to marriages and families by your actions, and like you said, you don't give it a second thought, so I guess I'm wasting my time trying to spark a little compassion for those whose lives are destroyed because of what you choose to do as your profession.

 

Yes you are wasting your time. As many people have said to you; men cheat with everyone not just prostitutes. I don't advertise for married men specifically, just men in general. Of course I feel bad for anyone that has been cheated on. But this is my job; what I think and feel about cheating is irrelevant.

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All I have had to do since I posted was defend my choice. I don't mind and I'm not afraid to share the realities of the job; but someone has to want to hear it.

You're been heard. Don't bother too much with those who aren't interested in hearing a different perspective. Just state your case and let the largely silent majority make up their own minds from that.

 

Prostitution was legalized six or so years ago in my country. There has been no discernible increase in anything - good or bad - in that time. In other words, nothing has changed as a consequence. As for human trafficking, that's a far bigger issue than prostitution in my view. Nonetheless, that, as a percentage of those working within the industry represents a tiny minority of those involved. Your average punter will not come across them in the developed world.

 

As for prostitution wrecking marriages, common sense dictates that if this were true then this practice would have attracted far stiffer law enforcement than has been the case throughout its history.

 

As for the workers themselves, to me, its just another profession. I look down on them no more than I look down on cleaners, garbage workers, supermarket staff, doctors, nurses and so forth. It's just another job - something that most people freely choose to do.

 

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The wife is not to blame. You are to blame equally with the cheating husband, since you purposely, knowingly advertise to him your "services", and knowingly enable him to cheat on his wife and family. So you're not breaking any commitment, but you are enabling, consorting with him to break his commitment. You are not forcing him to have sex, but you are advertising to him and enticing him to break his commitment, with no regard for the damage that your complicity causes. Cheating and prostitution are very much intertwined with each other, since your customer is cheating when he engages in your services. You are enabling him to cheat. By your actions, he is cheating on his wife. Most of your customers are cheaters. Some may not admit it, but that doesn't mean that they aren't. But you obviously don't care about that, and the damage done to marriages and families by your actions, and like you said, you don't give it a second thought, so I guess I'm wasting my time trying to spark a little compassion for those whose lives are destroyed because of what you choose to do as your profession.

 

I don't know about all this. You're equating her to something like the tobacco producers who provide something people should know better than to consume. Or fast food or a hundred other vices. I don't buy into the idea that she's culpable for the damage done to families by men who should know better, any more than I think McDonalds is responsible for making people fat.

 

As far as commitments, the arrangement is between her and the guys she's with and no one else, the way I see it. As opposed to a mistress, for Casey the guy's family is irrelevant. If the commitments are being broken, they aren't by her. She doesn't pressure for them to leave their wives. She doesn't develop relationships with the guys. The only thing she demands from them is payment. They still have a home life to take care of, and she isn't actively interfering with that.

 

It's repulsive, I'm sure, especially to the wives, to know what the guys do with Casey. I wouldn't do it myself. But it's the guys who have to answer for it. They sought her out. I'm sure she wasn't walking around hanging flyers on their doorknobs.

 

Lung cancer breaks apart families in more drastic ways. Alcohol does. Porn does. Video games do. Sometimes livestock does, I imagine. Careers do. Extended families do. Prostitution might. It's a pretty weak form of infidelity.

 

I think there are probably stronger arguments to be made against it. There must be some better moral ammunition to use against Casey.

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Yes you are wasting your time. As many people have said to you; men cheat with everyone not just prostitutes. I don't advertise for married men specifically, just men in general. Of course I feel bad for anyone that has been cheated on. But this is my job; what I think and feel about cheating is irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant, much like driving the gettaway car for a robbery doesn't make the driver innocent or irrelevant to the crime committed since both you and the driver stand to profit from aiding and abetting.

 

Your occupation is repulsive, regardless of how much you love it. :sick:

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Why do people think prostitutes are bad?

 

 

I know there is far more to life than beauty... but being able to have sex with a truly beautiful looking women, is something that many guys will never be able to do, without paying for it.

 

Haven't read the replies but the above stood out and I ask why would you speak as if all hookers are truly beautiful in physical looks?? It sounds as if you believe they are all like Julia Roberts in the movie "pretty woman".

 

I would guess that the majority are of average or if drug addicts way below average in looks and there aren't too many that look like Julia Roberts.

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Casey1989 it doesn't matter if the guy is married or has a gf. Just go and make that money. You ain't holding a gun to their heads telling them to **** you right?

 

I've seen lots of prostitutes and know a lot of them. They are people just like everybody else.

 

Just keep being safe and God bless you.

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No doubt at the time of marriage those men had no ideas that they would never get another blow job or any other kind of sex ever again, forcing them to have to buy it from sex workers because their own wives would not give it to them.

 

I have seen some people on here post "why buy the cow when the milk is free" and this is a case of the man buying the cow and the milk drying up so he needs to buy it from another cow because his own cow chooses not to provide it any longer, even though he paid (and keeps paying).

 

Interesting that some people blame these men for breaking their vows but do not blame the wives who withhold sex for breaking their vows, sending the men outside of the marriage in the first place!

 

Perhaps if these wives provided the sexual services they promised as part of their marriage vows then there would be no need for married men to seek the paid services of sex workers. Why pay twice for a service if you can get it from the original vendor you contracted to provide you with that service?

 

Your choice of the following words and terms is imo offensive to women.

 

"forcing them to have to buy it from sex workers because their own wives would not give it to them."

So a man is forced to buy it if he isn't getting it from his wife? LOL

 

"even though he paid (and keeps paying)"

Again implying that a man must pay for sex......ummmm.

 

"sending the men outside of the marriage in the first place"

So the wife sends the man outside of the marriage?? LOL

 

"these wives provided the sexual services"

Services uh? The choice of words used in the post implies you feel a woman owes you services in order to pay her debt. Really?

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I've always thought that prostitution was a decent way for a girl to make a lot of money as long as she wasn't hung up about sex and was smart enough to minimize risk while keeping all the money for herself.

 

I think it's a crappy way for someone to make a living and I would never recommend it, but I would support a persons right to do as they wish with their own body even if I personally think they are making a mistake. Not my place to force my views on them.

 

 

So you just happened to join Loveshack right now and have posted on this discussion but no others.

 

It happens, they are called lurkers. I lurked on /. for years before i had something to say that no one else was saying, for instance.

 

 

So those of us against prostitution have time and again posted studies and statistics, while those for keep asking for more without offering anything themselves but assertions. Do you have any evidence to base your claim here on? The studies I posted said, for example, that 89% of prostitutes wanted to leave and felt they couldn't.

 

The studies, frankly, are irrelevant. The fundamental issue is the basic human right to do as one wishes with ones own body. A good basic principle is that anything that's legal to give away should be legal to sell.

 

Eating fast food, driving in cars and avoiding exercise are probably some of the most deadly and dangerous things normal citizens do, but do we make those things illegal? No, we try to mitigate risk and educate people about how to make better choices.

 

Commercial fishing is much more dangerous than prostitution, do we ban it? No, we allow people to make an informed choice, weighing the benefits against the risks. Laws against prostitution are religious beliefs given legal form, and attempting to claim otherwise is the pinnacle of disingenuousness.

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It's not irrelevant, much like driving the gettaway car for a robbery doesn't make the driver innocent or irrelevant to the crime committed since both you and the driver stand to profit from aiding and abetting.

 

Your occupation is repulsive, regardless of how much you love it. :sick:

 

The wife is not to blame. You are to blame equally with the cheating husband, since you purposely, knowingly advertise to him your "services", and knowingly enable him to cheat on his wife and family. So you're not breaking any commitment, but you are enabling, consorting with him to break his commitment. You are not forcing him to have sex, but you are advertising to him and enticing him to break his commitment, with no regard for the damage that your complicity causes. Cheating and prostitution are very much intertwined with each other, since your customer is cheating when he engages in your services. You are enabling him to cheat. By your actions, he is cheating on his wife. Most of your customers are cheaters. Some may not admit it, but that doesn't mean that they aren't. But you obviously don't care about that, and the damage done to marriages and families by your actions, and like you said, you don't give it a second thought, so I guess I'm wasting my time trying to spark a little compassion for those whose lives are destroyed because of what you choose to do as your profession.

So by your logic, if a married man picks up women on a dating site by lying about his marital status, then the women he lied to are to blame for putting attractive pictures of themselves on the internet because they want a man to date.

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I think there are probably stronger arguments to be made against it. There must be some better moral ammunition to use against Casey.

 

Here in my current place of residence prostitution is illegal in much the same way that speeding is illegal in California. In a few minutes I will be going out with my GF and her cousin to see "Prometheus", and we will be walking out to the public transportation.

 

While on the bus, a number of lovely young women will typically board, ride, and then exit into "girl bars" which are essentially prostitute hunting grounds. They are doing this for a variety of reasons but no one, despite what biased makers of studies might say, is forcing them. If they are caught by police and interviewed, they will likely say they had no choice and blame someone for forcing them simply as an expedient way of avoiding prosecution, but the next day they will (I have witnessed this) be entering a neighboring bar for work.

 

I would never suggest that prostitution is a great way to earn a living, but making it illegal is simply letting a bunch of people with very strong religious views push those views onto others by means of legal force, and that's not right.

 

Some of these women are frankly too lazy to do anything else, they are making a living by going out to a club, hustling drinks from the men, and letting themselves be taken out for an evening of bar-hopping, food and sex 3 or so times a month. They are not doing anything that a typical 19 year old American Uni student isn't doing, they are just getting money for it. I personally think that's a crappy way to live but a lot of 19 year old under-motivated women seem to think it's OK.

 

Not my place to force them to live as I see fit.

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Or if he picks up a woman at a club or bar, she is to blame for wanting sex without a committed long term relationship?

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Or if he picks up a woman at a club or bar, she is to blame for wanting sex without a committed long term relationship?

 

A lot of women who are violently against prostitution have the practice of using the monopoly power of their vagina to try to stabilize their relationship(s), and sexually available other women undermine their technique. Prostitutes are merely an easy mark for demonization but if you get them in a corner they will express similar feelings toward any sexually available woman.

 

Just not trendy to outlaw fornication anymore.

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Well, I just can't win, can I? I was asked to post studies supporting my claim, and then when I do, you dismiss them saying studies are of marginal value and not reliable. I guess people will chose to believe whatever suits their needs or agenda, regardless of what the evidence is. The study I posted covered 150 countries. I think that's a pretty wide sample to make a conclusion, but it's common sense in any case. When it is made legal, people who would otherwise be deterred are more likely to partake. When there is more demand, the supply increases to keep up with the demand, and the supply often comes through human trafficking or coersion. But you believe what you want, which suits your own agenda, rather than what studies show.

 

I had no idea threebyfate and I were the same person. Do you usually categorize everyone who disagrees with you as the same entity? :confused:

 

None of what you said even addresses my point. My point was that the studies do not address illegal/nonconsensual trafficking that the authorities do not know about, which is the main concern. Would you like to say anything about that?

 

No, common sense and personal experience dictates otherwise from what you are saying. When prostitution is a legal and tightly-enforced profession, it is easier to regulate the rights and treatment of employees as opposed to when everyone is flying under the radar. Most people know that human trafficking is most prominent in parts of Asia, the Middle East, and Africa, and prostitution is illegal in almost all of those countries. That says a lot more than, say, Sweden reporting lower numbers of known prostitutes when prostitution was illegal.

 

 

Hello,

 

So I am a prostitute, from the UK. This discussion was very interesting to me.

 

I am not trafficked, have never been abused or raped, do not come from a broken home, and am a perfectly happy and healthy individual.

 

I love my job.

 

Why?

 

I love sex, I love being able to run my own business, and I love the lifestyle that it enables me to have. I work completely legally and pay taxes. I have a degree, and spend a lot of my time doing volunteer work and work experience, so I can have another career when I get older. I could easily get another job, but I don't see why I would when this gives me so many more opportunities, and I enjoy it so much.

 

Now it is probably very different in countries where it is illegal, but in the UK there are many sex workers that enjoy what they do.

 

In regards to the studies you are all quoting, I have to tell you that most of us that enjoy our work would not be partaking in these kinds of studies- because we want to remain anonymous and because we don't want to 'get out' of the industry.

 

Many of this depends on what you stereotype us as. I am not a streetwalker, nor do I work in a brothel. I work out of my own residence- with practised security measures and I keep the full fee that I receive. Many would call me a high-class escort (think belle du jour) but that is just dressing it up, I still sell sex. And I'm not ashamed to say that I love doing it.

 

Great of you to speak out, Casey. :) It's your life, and you should live it as how you see fit, not how others see fit.

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