johan Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 I'm every bit as ambitious as the guys the OP mentioned. The only thing that seperates us is I don't make 6 figures. I didn't see where "6 figures" was a requirement. I interpret it as a desire to build something meaningful in life. So if you have that going for you, maybe you still do have a shot with Spookie. Don't give up so easily Max. The prize is still there for you to claim.
Citizen Erased Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 I just want to get started so it's not 2+ years till I have a relationship again. Just be careful that if you do come across someone, you don't throw yourself into the relationship because of that reason.
Badmotorfinger Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 I think work SHOULD be one's life. I don't think work should be your life unless you live in a plastic ant farm or you do what you love. I think you mis-worded this entire post too, because you still sound like a "princess" with expectations that you couldn't really back up. You're going against the whole "ambition" thing by "settling" for a crappier job because they're family-oriented or whatever. BUT that's the same sort of thing that you'd pass on. By your description of ambition, you're not seeming too ambitious at the moment. Do you not see this?
Author spookie Posted September 16, 2010 Author Posted September 16, 2010 What you're hoping for doesn't seem wildly picky on it's face. But somehow it seems off-putting. It seems like you're looking down on people or something. Are you really world class when it comes to ambition? Do people that plan to rule the world spend much time thinking about dating? Hey, don't put words in my mouth. All I said was I was looking for someone as ambitious as me. There are many men out there who are not, and it isn't so much that I'm looking down on them, as they make me lose my boner.
johan Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Ambitious people don't resort to name calling. BTW, you just got reported. Another thing you have going for you is that you aren't overly sensitive. Women like a guy who has a good thick skin. And also who is self-sufficient and doesn't need a lot of support when things get rough.
Mad Max Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 I didn't see where "6 figures" was a requirement. I interpret it as a desire to build something meaningful in life. So if you have that going for you, maybe you still do have a shot with Spookie. Don't give up so easily Max. The prize is still there for you to claim. That would be settling. I don't settle for people who's character is that low. I'd rather be single.
Mad Max Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 BTW Spookie, are you male or female? Your gender says male, yet you're talking about guys.
Citizen Erased Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Another thing you have going for you is that you aren't overly sensitive. Women like a guy who has a good thick skin. And also who is self-sufficient and doesn't need a lot of support when things get rough. stop pot stirring.
Author spookie Posted September 16, 2010 Author Posted September 16, 2010 I don't think work should be your life unless you live in a plastic ant farm or you do what you love. I think you mis-worded this entire post too, because you still sound like a "princess" with expectations that you couldn't really back up. You're going against the whole "ambition" thing by "settling" for a crappier job because they're family-oriented or whatever. BUT that's the same sort of thing that you'd pass on. By your description of ambition, you're not seeming too ambitious at the moment. Do you not see this? What the hell are you talking about. I'm not settling for a crappier job, I just picked a company that I love working for that may pay a little less than some others. Within that company, I work myself to a pulp so that: -the company (that I care about) does well and -my career goes well Additionally, I have ambitions outside work. According to my own definition, I am moderately ambitious. All I'm looking for is someone who is the same! As opposed to, say, someone who puts in the time just to be free to fcvk around the other 4 hours.
johan Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 That would be settling. I don't settle for people who's character is that low. I'd rather be single. Have it your way, Max.
Author spookie Posted September 16, 2010 Author Posted September 16, 2010 BTW Spookie, are you male or female? Your gender says male, yet you're talking about guys. wanna see my boner?
Imajerk17 Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Well, I'm attracted to curvy athletic women who are in touch with their feminine side and who can deadlift 2x their body weight. What does this have to do with being a good spouse or world peace? Probably nothing, but I still want that. It's what I am attracted to. I'm not into girls who are too girly. My only justification to this is that I go to the gym a lot and am pretty strong myself. And that I play pretty rough and she has to be able to handle that My point is that you like what you like. And your demands are not that unreasonable in that there are a lot of good-looking athletic guys with good careers. I am wondering if OKCupid is the place for you to go. You ought to join Crossfit--the gym is bursting with these types of guys. Edited September 16, 2010 by Imajerk17
Author spookie Posted September 16, 2010 Author Posted September 16, 2010 I am wondering if OKCupid is the place for you to go. You ought to join Crossfit--the gym is bursting with these types of guys. Tell me more. I run a lot but I'm a long-distance runner. No sprints for me. I am concerned that the workouts will kill me. That said, I'm extremely competitive, so I could probably get in the spirit. What do you think? Could I be CrossFit material??
Badmotorfinger Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 What the hell are you talking about. I'm not settling for a crappier job, I just picked a company that I love working for that may pay a little less than some others. Within that company, I work myself to a pulp so that: -the company (that I care about) does well and -my career goes well Additionally, I have ambitions outside work. According to my own definition, I am moderately ambitious. All I'm looking for is someone who is the same! As opposed to, say, someone who puts in the time just to be free to fcvk around the other 4 hours. Ok? Some "less ambitious" guys like the ones mentioned in this thread picked jobs that they're happy with and do great with require no more to be happy and content. Do you think you're going to conquer the world being a worker for some fairly low paying company, as you put it? Do you think there's a lot of room for improvement in the situation you're describing? I'm sure there are plenty of things you CAN do, but you're saying you want as good as you, yet I'm getting the vibe that you're nowhere near where you want your mate to be., ambition-wise.. Go start a business or write a best selling novel or something. Those people are certainly not "moderately" ambitious..
Imajerk17 Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Tell me more. I run a lot but I'm a long-distance runner. No sprints for me. I am concerned that the workouts will kill me. That said, I'm extremely competitive, so I could probably get in the spirit. What do you think? Could I be CrossFit material?? You'll do more sprints, but that will actually raise your V2 max more effectively than just Long Slow Distance could ever do. The first few workouts will have you holding on to the guardrails going up and down the stairs. Your heart will be consistently at redline during the sessions. From then on out you will leave the workouts feeling no pain--pleasantly stoned is how I like to describe it. You'll be in a daze but it will be an awesome daze. You'll be amazed at what you are capable of if you stick it out. Your feisty competitive nature that won't let you quit will serve you well. So yes you could indeed be Crossfit material... Edited September 16, 2010 by Imajerk17
Badmotorfinger Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Hey, uh, Jerk dude, how do you KNOW what she has to offer, if she herself is even athletic or successful to be saying that she's entitled to pursue that?
Author spookie Posted September 16, 2010 Author Posted September 16, 2010 Ok? Some "less ambitious" guys like the ones mentioned in this thread picked jobs that they're happy with and do great with require no more to be happy and content. Do you think you're going to conquer the world being a worker for some fairly low paying company, as you put it? Do you think there's a lot of room for improvement in the situation you're describing? I'm sure there are plenty of things you CAN do, but you're saying you want as good as you, yet I'm getting the vibe that you're nowhere near where you want your mate to be., ambition-wise.. Go start a business or write a best selling novel or something. Those people are certainly not "moderately" ambitious.. Actually, I make a very good living. And yes, there's a lot of "room for improvement". One of the major reasons I am sticking to this place is that its moderate size translates to more opportunities in terms of the types of projects I'm involved in, and how quickly I can progress. Not to brag (because money doesn't have much to do with this convo) but I'd be hard-pressed to too many people my age making more of it than I do. Add in the fact that 2 years ago I had ISSUES what with being a drug addicted stripper and all, and I think my rate of acceleration into the upper middle class has been phenomenal. I'd say that's "moderately ambitious".
Star Gazer Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 IIn the context of online profiles, this complacency shines through when a guy writes that he has a "stable" job but "work isn't his life" or something to that extent. I think work SHOULD be one's life. Spook, work isn't my life (anymore), but I'm VERY ambitious. When I'm at work, I'm dedicated and focused and always looking for opportunities to better myself and my "company." But work is NOT my life, nor will it ever be. If work is your life, a relationship cannot be your priority. Do you want to find yourself in another relationship like the one you just got out of? Where you played second fiddle, at best? You're a woman of enormous extremes. I strongly suggest you work towards finding balance.
Badmotorfinger Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Yes, I agree with Stargazer, "balance" is a key word to happiness and good health throughout life. Balance doesn't equate to blandness or being average, either. It's a good thing.
callingyouuu Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 It's complacency that's a turn-off for me. The attitude that one can be fulfilled simply by paying one's bills. Sorry, my definition of "ambitious" is usually connected with money/rising up company ranks. I actually completely get this. Complacency is a big peeve of mine, too. I think work SHOULD be one's life. However, I don't think being ambitious necessarily translates to the above. I think one can easily be passionate and ambitious about something and just work as a means of having the power to pursue other goals. I met a doctor a few months ago who worked for like 10 years and saved up a ton of money to pursue his dream of starting 5 non-profits (one of them sends college kids to Ghana to work with an NGO, another sets underprivileged high schoolers up to learn more about a career in medicine, etc.) He pretty much doesn't work at all any more and just used his career as a means of collecting resources and credentials to pursue other passions. You can argue that starting up the NGOs and stuff is his new "work", but I hope you can see that the general principle still works if a guy picks a stable job that he's satisfied with (but not necessarily ambitious about) so he can have the resources to pursue his dream of climbing the highest peak on every continent, or something ridiculous like that. I wouldn't call this complacent at all. I just call it living life the way you want it. I don't know, maybe my definition of ambition is just a bit broader than yours.
Sanman Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Spookie, just keep in mind that "excessive" career ambition can often translate to mixed priorities and a sh*tty family life...ambition is certainly an admirable trait, but there are also real consequences to it... I actually fit both of your requirements and can tell you this. If you look at the thread that I started, you will that USMCHokie's notion rings true. I have actually decided to cool off my career for a few years and concentrate on having more serious relationships. However, dating equals means I often still run into problems with balancing schedules. There are trade-offs to everything.
irc333 Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Athletic ...if you're athletic, then that would make sense....heck, I've been on OK Cupid..and not only the women there lately are NOT athletic....but my width x2 or x3. I'm just asking for someone who is NOT fat. (athletic would just be a bonus, LOL) You seem to be misjudging the career thing here....some people can have crappy careers and still be ambitious. Just like everyone says, "You can get a job washing trashcans, but be good at doing it, makin' them sparkly shiny!" And considering they lay offs these days, you should be happy with a guy who is at LEAST employed. Right? Without respect, there's can't be love. Perusing profiles on OkC, my awareness of how I dish out respect has been heightened. Maybe this will sound shallow, but I lose absolutely all interest in a guy if: -his career does not appear to be at least on its way to being better than mine -he isn't athletic I don't care if the guy is short, bald, ugly, whatever, I don't even care about the lifestyle that the career in question can buy, but to me, the above signify a lack of ambition or intelligence and a willingness to settle for mediocrity, which in addition to being HUGE turnoff's, make me reason that the person in question will hold me back/ bring me down. I don't really see this as changing anytime soon, but I am wondering: is this shallow??
irc333 Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Actually, I make a very good living. And yes, there's a lot of "room for improvement". One of the major reasons I am sticking to this place is that its moderate size translates to more opportunities in terms of the types of projects I'm involved in, and how quickly I can progress. Considering the recession....give this company some time.....it's only a matter of time...... Not that I wish that anyone though, but I get a kick out of people who are currently employed that never understand the struggling of the under-employed. I know a person who was management of a great company for about 10 years, had a lot of people under them...was laid off....had to sell the home and get an apartment, and the 2nd car they had to sell, too. She got a job that was like 12/hr, but it was enough to make ends meet, so she's doing that now....sometimes there are things in life that are beyond our control, and apparently the "successful" can't see this....but don't worry, one day they could get called out on the carpet and given their walking papers...and then be humbled. I think work SHOULD be one's life. YIKES, not sure about that. There's a popular question out there. "Do you live to work, or work to LIVE?" I'm a work to live kind of guy, I stay away from people (women) who do the earlier....does it mean I lack ambition....nope! Edited September 16, 2010 by irc333
irc333 Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Within that company, I work myself to a pulp so that: -the company (that I care about) does well and -my career goes well Yeah, I've known people to work themselves to a pulp having these expectations....only to never get them or someone else gets them. I have to laugh when people work till 8pm at night, and receive no overtime or even comp time ( meaning they work late, they can leave the next day early ) When I die, I'm my gravestone, I'm not going to be remembered as the guy who was "SUPER Hard worker!!"
irc333 Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Cripes, this woman sounds like a supervisor that likes to ride their employee's asses, damn, I get enough of that at WORK, why should I have to come HOME to it??!! Anyhow, how the hell would she know what I'm doing at work? Why should she care how I intend on improving upon my job perfermance.....that sounds WAY to wierd for me. I wonder if she asks her boyfriend dates, "Where do you see yourself at work in the next 5 years?" She's a walking HR Job Application." LOL You will never find a decent guy with your attitude. Just because I'm content with where I am doesn't mean I'm not ambitious. Good luck with your love life. Believe me, you'll need it. Edited September 16, 2010 by irc333
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