Author Will59 Posted August 31, 2010 Author Posted August 31, 2010 Dude 5'9 is average where are you in a town with nothing but pro athletes? You should have no problems..And if you are with somebody who would leave u for someobdy because theyre taller do you really need that whore? That's not my issue, I'm not worried about "getting girls." Anyone can get girls. What I can't stand is the general public attitude about height and how much of a pain in the a** it is considering I lost a lot of height from a prescription drug I was prescribed to for 4 years. It's like I'm not allowed to go to a bar or nightclub and have a great time, it's like the tall guys have to be in the lead and settng the mood, I'm not "allowed" to. No one can imagine what it is like to lose 3-4+ inches of height... it's like your mindset and who you are as a person doesn't match your physical manifestation and if you're a really masculine guy then your screwed
InceptorsRule Posted August 31, 2010 Posted August 31, 2010 I'm 95% sure my growth was stunted a few+ inches because of a prescription drug I was on for 5 years, so that kind of just makes it worse considering my dad is a professonal athlete and 6'1.5" and my brother is 6'4" OP, I suspect that the "real" issue is right here. How competitive are your dad/brother with you, each other, and the world in general? Prof. athletes are maximally competitive. Do you feel yourself to be the "runt of the litter"?
Author Will59 Posted August 31, 2010 Author Posted August 31, 2010 Also, 5'9" is sooo far from average, that's the average for the 50+ year old generation. For white males in the USA age 18-30 the average is more like 5'10.5-5'11
alexlakeman Posted August 31, 2010 Posted August 31, 2010 I never thought I was short at 5' 9"... atleast in the US of A ... I just don't go picking on women 5 6" and above.. b/c once they put on those sexy heels / stilettos they'l be taller than me, lol.. BUT there are EXCEPTIONS.. take for instance an ex gf from last year and my current FWB... I think she's gotta be 5 7 maybe 5 8, b/c without shoes (aka naked ) she's just about my height (never really analyzed it, lol), but when she puts on those sexy heels, she's up there... I've never been embarrased nor really thought about it.. obviously I bring other qualities to the table, where she just overlooked the height (her ex is 6'+, and I only know b/c her sons are tall as FK, lol).. Now, when I do go online to okcupid, match, etc... I do put the max height at 5' 5" or 5' 6"... bc I like women in heels and just easier chance that they will go for someone less than 6' talll.. Don't worry about... I never have, dated, been married, divorced and continue dating, lol... never an issue.. good luck
Author Will59 Posted August 31, 2010 Author Posted August 31, 2010 OP, I suspect that the "real" issue is right here. How competitive are your dad/brother with you, each other, and the world in general? Prof. athletes are maximally competitive. Do you feel yourself to be the "runt of the litter"? Yea my dad is basically an a$$ hole and thinks height is everything. I talked to him about my stunted growth one time and all he said was "I wish I was 3 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier." And he likes that my growth was stunted and that he's bigger than me... pretty sick, huh? My parents are divorced by the way, and my dad's no longer an athlete, but he still makes tons of money in the business world at a high-end office job. He's like the prime example of someone that wouldn't be sh*t without his height. You're probably right. I f****ng hate my dad, especially after saying some s**t like that to me when he sees how hard the stunted growth is hurting me. He was very abusive growing up, hence why my siblings and I don't ever speak to him. It makes me sick that I still have to "cow down" to this abusive a$$ hole.
Gattica Posted August 31, 2010 Posted August 31, 2010 lol I hate that short guys get psychcoanalyzed Some people are just aholes and dbags and height has nothing to do with it Hence my smilie at the end of the post. He was an jerk because he was a jerk. I thought it was funny how so many ppl jumped on the 'he is a jerk because he is short' thing. He did not have a lack of women interested in him. Height didn't seem to affect his ability to attract women.
alexlakeman Posted August 31, 2010 Posted August 31, 2010 One more thing... if you are using one of those online dating sites... then you're screwed, lol..b/c the women micro analyze the profiles.. "wait, he is only 5 -9"... They put a description of the "perfect" male species as theire likes, lol.. 1. Yes, and by a million other little things. So are women. 2. By a woman who finds you attractive, yes. The others really don't matter. Enjoy I like # 2.. .
alexlakeman Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 OP, don't let a bunch of strangers on here get you down worse... The height is NOT an issue with most women.. I just talked to my fwb, and she's actually 5 7"... 2" short than me, and obviously my height when she wears heels... she laughed, she said it was never an issue that crossed her mind since we've beeen seeing each other.. As I started writting this, I remembered....2 more women I dated or just banged that were tall.. they obviously didn't care about my height.. when you are horizontel in bed with them, it doesn't really matter, and once you prove yourself in bed, you got 'em in the palm of your hand.. Good luck.. seriously , maybe go talk to a therapist.. good luck again
InceptorsRule Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 Yea my dad is basically an a$$ hole and thinks height is everything. I talked to him about my stunted growth one time and all he said was "I wish I was 3 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier." And he likes that my growth was stunted and that he's bigger than me... pretty sick, huh? My parents are divorced by the way, and my dad's no longer an athlete, but he still makes tons of money in the business world at a high-end office job. He's like the prime example of someone that wouldn't be sh*t without his height. You're probably right. I f****ng hate my dad, especially after saying some s**t like that to me when he sees how hard the stunted growth is hurting me. He was very abusive growing up, hence why my siblings and I don't ever speak to him. It makes me sick that I still have to "cow down" to this abusive a$$ hole. Since you apparently CAN get plenty of women, based on your additional details provided above, unfortunately your dad has effectively brain-washed you to dislike yourself or see yourself as inadequate due to "inadequate height." However in reality your height is NOT inadequate as proved by the fact that you are successful with women. I would have to guess your dad, as a former professional athlete, probably believes he would have been more successful had he only been taller, bigger, etc. But as a pro athlete he's comparing himself to other people who are physically gifted/superior. But, you're not a pro athlete, and you don't have to compete with even bigger, taller and faster other pro athletes--unlike your dad did in his "prime." I guess it's like being an "ordinary" pro NFL wide receiver (or whatever it is your dad did in his pro career) and always having to compare yourself to jerry rice or t. o. or michael irvin or chad ocachino. Even though you're better physically then 99.9999% of the population you're still a runt compared to jerry rice. Maybe that's how your dad felt even if it was not reasonable for him to feel that way and he never accepted the reality of what he actually was. All we can do as human beings is to each try to fulfill our individual potential as best we can, with what we have, and what we are able to make of what nature or God has given us. It's very sad IMO that your dad never came to grips with who he was and let his resentments affect his entire family to a severe detriment. However now you perhaps have an opportunity to try to break that cycle. You don't HAVE to carry the hang-ups that your Dad imposed on you--when you were just a child, and growing up--forever. It may take work to break free of this legacy--maybe a lot of work--but I am sure it can be done. You are certainly entitled to love yourself, it's just a matter of learning to give yourself permission. Maybe some therapy would help. Good luck.
somedude81 Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) How upset would you be if you were put on a presciption medication from age 14-18 and it made you stop growing at 5 foot 9? Think about how much guys grow in high school... and you lost ALL that height. How different would your life be? Seriously think about it. How depressed would you be? Dude you are one freaking inch shorter than the average. Shut the hell up! Imagine having something go wrong with your body and you stop growing at 14 and only reach a height of 5'6. You have nothing to complain about. Also your problem of thinking that other guys are dissing you because you have a girl, is the stupidest girl problem I've ever heard. You want a girl problem? Trying not being able to get any... Edited September 1, 2010 by somedude81
geegollygosh Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 dude, you're not even that short. You're maybe an inch below average? The only problem I would have with your height would be your insecurities about it. I'm only 5'2", I'd rather have someone of average height or even on the shorter side of average.
Author Will59 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Posted September 1, 2010 Since you apparently CAN get plenty of women, based on your additional details provided above, unfortunately your dad has effectively brain-washed you to dislike yourself or see yourself as inadequate due to "inadequate height." However in reality your height is NOT inadequate as proved by the fact that you are successful with women. I would have to guess your dad, as a former professional athlete, probably believes he would have been more successful had he only been taller, bigger, etc. But as a pro athlete he's comparing himself to other people who are physically gifted/superior. But, you're not a pro athlete, and you don't have to compete with even bigger, taller and faster other pro athletes--unlike your dad did in his "prime." I guess it's like being an "ordinary" pro NFL wide receiver (or whatever it is your dad did in his pro career) and always having to compare yourself to jerry rice or t. o. or michael irvin or chad ocachino. Even though you're better physically then 99.9999% of the population you're still a runt compared to jerry rice. Maybe that's how your dad felt even if it was not reasonable for him to feel that way and he never accepted the reality of what he actually was. All we can do as human beings is to each try to fulfill our individual potential as best we can, with what we have, and what we are able to make of what nature or God has given us. It's very sad IMO that your dad never came to grips with who he was and let his resentments affect his entire family to a severe detriment. However now you perhaps have an opportunity to try to break that cycle. You don't HAVE to carry the hang-ups that your Dad imposed on you--when you were just a child, and growing up--forever. It may take work to break free of this legacy--maybe a lot of work--but I am sure it can be done. You are certainly entitled to love yourself, it's just a matter of learning to give yourself permission. Maybe some therapy would help. Good luck. My dad played professional baseball, and only did it for 2 years. The only reason I mention that is to show that I have tall, athletic genetics, not just some ordinary joe. And when he talks about height and everything, BELIEVE me, it is not about sports he is talking about, he is talking about just height in every day life. He says he feels small at 6'1, so what the hell am I at 5'9? And it makes it worse cause I'm smarter and better looking than he is, I got a pretty good match of my mom and my dad in terms of genes, so it's like I have the mind of a guy who's 6'0+ inside a 5'9 body and it drives me freaking CRAZY. All guys pick up on it, then they see I'm short and they just smile with joy like this: And if I have a girlfriend I can just feel the "tall energy" a mile away
Author Will59 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Posted September 1, 2010 Dude you are one freaking inch shorter than the average. Shut the hell up! Imagine having something go wrong with your body and you stop growing at 14 and only reach a height of 5'6. You have nothing to complain about. Also your problem of thinking that other guys are dissing you because you have a girl, is the stupidest girl problem I've ever heard. You want a girl problem? Trying not being able to get any... Yea but that's who you are man. I'm sure your mind matches your physical manifestation very well. Your growth wasn't stunted so bad like mine. You are how nature created you, I am how a chemical created me
somedude81 Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 Yea but that's who you are man. I'm sure your mind matches your physical manifestation very well. Your growth wasn't stunted so bad like mine. You are how nature created you, I am how a chemical created me Bwa ha ha! First of all, I have no idea what you mean by mind matching physical manifestation. Next, you have no idea that your growth was stunted or not. You are basically average height. You said your dad is 6'1 and you are 5'9. Instead of you being short, your dad is just taller than average. My dad is 5'10 and somehow I ended up at 5'6. My maternal grandfather is 6'1. My paternal grandfather died before I was born. So reasonably speaking, I should be between 5'10 and 6'1. Yet somehow I got stuck with the body of a 14 year old. BTW all physical attributes are determined by chemicals. I have a feeling that something went wrong with my body's human growth hormone production and dihydrotestosterone (DHT) levels. I have other physical signs of low DHT levels, such as a soft voice, being unable to grow a beard and being below average sized both in height and the other area. You have no idea how much I would love to be average height. It's so annoying walking around and seeing women that are taller than me.
Author Will59 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Posted September 1, 2010 I'm sorry man, but having a low voice, little facial hair, and little muscle is like typical short/small guy qualities, no offense. You're brain puts out what nature created it to do, that's who you are, you just don't like who you are by nature. I have a very deep voice, super thick facial hair, and build/maintain muscle very easily, and I think that's all signs that I was supposed to be much bigger/taller. The only guys I see with the qualties I have like that are typically 6'0+
Cracker Jack Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 What's this drug that robbed you of the 6'0" trait, again?
Author Will59 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Posted September 1, 2010 "Prozac," an SSRI anti-depressant. Why?
USMCHokie Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 I honestly think you need to grow some thicker skin and stop being so damn sensitive to stupidity. It is a very weak character trait. Wow, I was able to use the same exact post in two different threads...what is this world coming too...?
Dante311 Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 I honestly think you need to grow some thicker skin and stop being so damn sensitive to stupidity. It is a very weak character trait. Wow, I was able to use the same exact post in two different threads...what is this world coming too...? Jersey Shore is taking over...
Cracker Jack Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 "Prozac," an SSRI anti-depressant. Why? Because I've never heard of a drug that significantly robs anyone of height to that degree, but thank you for the input regardless. Anyway, my friend was taking Prozac at the age of 15-18 for his anxiety issues and ended up growing to about 6'2", while only being around 5'8" at the most beforehand. So, stopping height doesn't seem to be a common side-effect of the drug.
meerkat stew Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 Because I've never heard of a drug that significantly robs anyone of height to that degree, Chronic masturbation did it to me, am convinced I was supposed to be 6'3". I'm half blind too.
Chubbi Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 5'9 is definitely tall enough if your girl is average for women (5'3-5'4). My friend is dating a guy who is 5'5- her height. I could care less. He is equally attractive to me like all the others taller than him.
Cracker Jack Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 Chronic masturbation did it to me, am convinced I was supposed to be 6'3". I'm half blind too. Now that you mention it....
Author Will59 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Posted September 1, 2010 my friend was taking Prozac at the age of 15-18 for his anxiety issues and ended up growing to about 6'2", while only being around 5'8" at the most beforehand. So, stopping height doesn't seem to be a common side-effect of the drug. That is interesting. What do you think of this study? http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/156/7/696.pdf "Results: All 4 patients had growth attenuation. Three of them exhibited growth retardation at a pubertal stage when a growth spurt was anticipated."
InceptorsRule Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 "Prozac," an SSRI anti-depressant. Why? If you were taking an anti-depressant for several years during your formative growth years, that can only mean you suffered from serious psychological issues. Obviously you still do. Don't you see that? You're not short--you're depressed. You never "got over" what you were being treated for--the abuse by your father, I presume. Right now your depression is manifesting itself as body dysmorphic syndrome. You think you're "too short" but the reality is you're not. You're completely average. You're exactly the same as an anorexic woman who thinks she's "too fat" whilst starving herself to death. She looks in the mirror and sees what isn't there--someone who's "too fat." You look in the mirror and also see what's not there--someone who's "too short."
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