herenow Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 And to complete the cycle, here is a letter from a MM to the OW: http://rodentbassist.blogspot.com/2009/06/dear-other-woman.html I posted the website because I like to give credit where credit is due. It's a must read, so please indulge. Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 And, I hear there are portable fumigation devices or services that make housecalls. Heck, in a pinch, maybe the Orkin folks could provide services. . Then there's the routine delousing service offered on the maintenance plan... I'm doing my kegels while I type. That falls under the umbrella of working on oneself, doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Gamine Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I'd pay good money to hear this letter when you are Lizzie70 or Lizzie80, only this time you will be the courtesan alzheimer's patient at the nursing home. You remind me of the vampire women in Van Helsing. You are, in actuality, (as I understand from your previous posts) a 'woman who accepts gifts for sexual intimacy'. More delicately put, you are a courtesan (again by your own information). Sounds like you are working through some serious issues with your femininity and sexuality. Good luck in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 And to complete the cycle, here is a letter from a MM to the OW: http://rodentbassist.blogspot.com/2009/06/dear-other-woman.html I posted the website because I like to give credit where credit is due. It's a must read, so please indulge. I particularly enjoyed the Charlie Brown and the football analogy. Oh, and the cheap, flashy handbag one was good too. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I particularly enjoyed the Charlie Brown and the football analogy. Oh, and the cheap, flashy handbag one was good too. Who knew that MM could actually lie to an OW? What a shock huh? Link to post Share on other sites
Spark1111 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Lizzie, you are honest and accepting of your lifestyle and I admire that. You have always owned your choices and they seem to be working for you and what you want out of life. What is interesting to me is the unspoken position that women do not want the same thing, or at least fantasize about it. Of course, we do. Look at the proliferation of web sites finally promoting hot anonymous young men. I wonder if it would effect the performance abilities of some, if not most of your illicitly visiting MM, to suggest their wife called and she is now being sexually satisfied by a hot-bodied male? It's not the sex, it is the deception that keeps women in traditional roles. Just a thought. Care to initiate this experiment and see what happens to their/your performance? Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 OK, so I am playing devil's advocate here by editing the original letter... not to be taken seriously! ********************** Dear Wife... ... although calling you 'Wife' makes me feel very uncomfortable, because it emphasises your legitimacy in your husband's life over my lack of it... ...but anyway... Everything in me is crying out to hate you, because you have a position in my man's life that I will never attain. I try to pretend you don't exist... I know he has a wife somewhere, but when they met, how she cooks her food, how old she is, whether she has a job and if she's beautiful or not... these are things I desperately want to know because I'm jealous, but he won't talk to me about them because I'm just his "bit on the side". I'm not a mistress because of you. I'm a mistress because of him, because he isn't capable of committing to just one woman. Did I know your husband was married before I started dating him? Yes. Did it matter? Yes, but I like to pretend it didn't, because I want to delude myself that he's all mine. It matters because in this world of haves and have-nots, I am determined to get my own, even if that means stealing someone else's. Someone else's fawning man, someone else's warm bed to return to, someone else's roll in the hay. The man, my man, is not the same as your husband. He is who is he is: only my lover, not my legal partner. For some reason you think I intentionally worm my way into your marriage and steal your man. It’s as if your husband is helpless, weak and confused, falling for anyone who bats their eyes at him. Nothing could be further from the truth. The men who chose me are strong men. I am the one who is helpless, weak and confused, falling for anyone who bats their eyes at me, even if he's married. It’s usually a decision made in the heat of passion or a result of poor judgment after an alcohol fueled night. He determines when to walk in and he always determines when to walk out. Contrary to popular belief, I like to think I am not his sex toy either. Unlike you, my relationship with him is not bound by the 'rules' of marriage. If I deny him sex, he can always get it from you because it’s your duty to the marital bed, so really he's only using me for an extra thrill. When he's sick of me, he can cut off communication or walk out of the affair because there is no legal whatnot involved, and I don't get a penny. For me marriage isn’t the beginning of a new life; it’s the end. I've never been married.. never will.. because nobody wants to marry a serial cheater. I just can't understand why people choose to marry... because I'm a selfish person who wouldn't be able to understand the concept of a loving partnership... I’m an intelligent woman and I know what I want, but unfortunately someone else already has him so I have to make do with the crumbs. I chose my independence – my full independence - unfortunately in a few years time that independence will turn to loneliness because I'll be too old to steal other women's husbands, but I try not to think about that. You ask why I chose married men when the country is full of single men. The answer is pretty simple: it’s easier with married men, because that way I never have to face the possibility of having a real committed relationship. I don’t have to do any work. It's sooo much easier. The burden of care doesn’t lie solely with me because he has a real wife to handle his daily activities and he only comes to me to get a cheap thrill. It isn’t that you are not ‘enough’ for him; it’s just that I am not enough for him either, hence why he won't leave you to be with me. Consider it similar to eating boiled meat. It will fill you and nourish you, but every once in a while you want a little spice to add a zest to your meal. That zest is me. However a man cannot live on zest alone, which is why he still has boiled meat for the majority of his meals. You shouldn’t be so angry about the way things turned out because when you think of it, I made your life better by showing you what a cheating rat your husband is, and now you're in a position to divorce him and take everything. When you confronted me, you attempted to shame me into remorse. Sorry, but it didn’t work, because I am a hardened individual without a conscience. There is no room for shame for a toughened, long time mistress like me. Just in case you are angry, don’t be angry at me .. be angry at him. It was he who lied to you... he who broke his promises... he who betrayed you. I will completely ignore the fact that I am also a person of no moral fibre, because I assuage my guilt by telling myself it's all his fault. If you can get past me and focus on him, maybe he will change.. maybe the two of you can rebuild your marriage... but I very much doubt it because I can't conceive of anyone feeling true remorse and being able to build a strong and lasting relationship. You are his wife and I am sure he loves you. He has said you are a good wife, a good mother.. He appreciates that.. but it is not enough for him. You see, he fancied a bit on the side, and I'm the one who happened to be available at the time. You're what he can't live without, hence why he hasn't left you for me. His family is the thing he is most passionate about, desite the fact he likes to slip a length to some random woman occasionally. Being with me turns him into someone he normally isn't... a lying, manipulative cheat. With me he has no inhibitions but he never says exactly what is on his mind, because if he told me I was just his bit on the side I'd run a mile. I'm always there for him..... no expectations .. no complaints.... because since I'm not his wife I really have no right to have any expectations or make any complaints. I am there for his pleasure only. I got under his skin...like a particularly nasty parasite. When he lies down beside you in your bed each night he's completely forgotten about me. I like to think he's still with me in his mind.. He dreams about me cause he falls asleep thinking about me.. He's obsessed with me.. thinking things like that keeps my mind off the fact that he's in bed with his legal wife and I'm here all alone. It's understandable how you didn't know about us. Every time he has been with me he comes home and pretends to be the same person, and he's very careful to have a good wash so you can't you smell me on him. I hear that you have been blaming me for all of your problems with him....well don't .. he's the one to blame; not me. He comes to me, I don't go to him. He chose me, and I just sit around waiting for him to throw me a bone. You're his wife but he wants to have his cake and eat it.. He'd rather stay married to you than spend all of his time with me. Don't you think it is a little strange that he takes hours to run simple errands that should take minutes---he is with me.. When he comes home late after work...when he plays golf.. yep.. golf... or fishing.. or.. wherever.. he's with me. I treasure these crumbs of his time, because on holidays and birthdays he's with his real family and doesn't even think about me. I cannot take your place in his heart, though I have tried. Your feelings are too important to him for him to ever leave you..... Unless you want him to spend more time with me stop nagging him about the kids, the house, the bills, family matters, etc. and, most of all, stop talking to him about how unhappy you are.. Deep inside, he's an immature little boy who is unable to deal with adult things like paying bills and raising a family. Work on yourself instead, you know you need to.. and when you finally realise that you deserve better you'll be strong enough to leave him. He is not going to change... ever again... now that he has tasted that level of immorality and infidelity... that's why I'll never be happy with him, because even if he does come to me he'll do the same to me as he did to you. I hope this puts a better perspective on things and you finally know where you stand. You see, you may be his wife and that is sacred but I am hanging around at the edges of the picture now and trying to kid myself I have some importance in his life....I am his mistress... you are his life. Save yourself many miserable years... if you can't accept that he will never be faithful.. move on... save yourself from my fate of spending the rest of my life being used by an unfaithful man. Touroulou The Mistress Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 Lizzie, you are honest and accepting of your lifestyle and I admire that. You have always owned your choices and they seem to be working for you and what you want out of life. What is interesting to me is the unspoken position that women do not want the same thing, or at least fantasize about it. Of course, we do. Look at the proliferation of web sites finally promoting hot anonymous young men. I wonder if it would effect the performance abilities of some, if not most of your illicitly visiting MM, to suggest their wife called and she is now being sexually satisfied by a hot-bodied male? It's not the sex, it is the deception that keeps women in traditional roles. Just a thought. Care to initiate this experiment and see what happens to their/your performance? I understand (I think) what you're saying.... although women are more and more 'out there'.. there is still a huge difference IMO between men amd women in that regard... Porn, in all its different fashions.. is a multi-million $$ business all over the planet.. now ... because of who? men... NOT women.. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 Come on Thorton.. this is too easy... We (OWs) can do the same thing when we read thread of letters to the OW on here.. we too can just change the wording .. et voilà! I know it's hard to take.. but you all got to admit that it's the truth.. but the truth sometimes hurts.. Link to post Share on other sites
MistyK Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I just want to point out, although hopefully it goes without saying, that Lizzie's letter in NO way shape or form is typical of the OW here. Most of us don't take any pride in this - it's a source of shame and we certainly don't make a career out of it. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 OK, so I am playing devil's advocate here by editing the original letter... not to be taken seriously! ********************** I am there for his pleasure only. I got under his skin...like a particularly nasty parasite. When he lies down beside you in your bed each night he's completely forgotten about me. I like to think he's still with me in his mind.. He dreams about me cause he falls asleep thinking about me.. He's obsessed with me.. thinking things like that keeps my mind off the fact that he's in bed with his legal wife and I'm here all alone. Brilliant re-write. The only note I have is that I hope the MM don't bring the nasty parasites home to their wives. Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I heard the porn business has taken off among women, too. Welcome to the new millenium(sp?). Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I just want to point out, although hopefully it goes without saying, that Lizzie's letter in NO way shape or form is typical of the OW here. Most of us don't take any pride in this - it's a source of shame and we certainly don't make a career out of it. Misty, it does go without saying, but I understand why you had to say it. I assure you we all know exactly where Lizzie is coming from. Link to post Share on other sites
jennie-jennie Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Way to go, Lizzie! I love it! :bunny: Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Come on Thorton.. this is too easy... We (OWs) can do the same thing when we read thread of letters to the OW on here.. we too can just change the wording .. et voilà! I know it's hard to take.. but you all got to admit that it's the truth.. but the truth sometimes hurts.. Oh good, Lizzie's back to tell us how we can work on ourselves and please our man. I did my kegels and banished the children and am rereading page 198 of the Kama Sutra....oh and I waxed but left a kind of topiary landing strip. I'm hoping the pain will be worthwhile. BTW, how about that 8:00 spot for tomorrow night? Can you pencil the ball and chain in? All this working on myself has left me exhausted. Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Come on Thorton.. this is too easy... We (OWs) can do the same thing when we read thread of letters to the OW on here.. we too can just change the wording .. et voilà! I know it's hard to take.. but you all got to admit that it's the truth.. but the truth sometimes hurts.. Okay, I'll admit it. Ouch:cool:. Okay, I'm all better , now. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Come on Thorton.. this is too easy... We (OWs) can do the same thing when we read thread of letters to the OW on here.. we too can just change the wording .. et voilà! I know it's hard to take.. but you all got to admit that it's the truth.. but the truth sometimes hurts.. I think it's the truth for some situations, just like letters from BS's. Do I believe every ow out there is in the position of that letter writer, nope. Based only on the one's I know and that's enough to say not all. Not to label anyone here, but there are the trailer park ow, the next step in the financial rung ow(my situation), I just like penises ow, truly in love ow, and game playing ow, needy ow. Some feel shame, some don't. Some are out to cause issues because of jealousy, others are dimwitted and slow( the ow my friend got stuck with) yet others have no clue why they are ow. We all can agree that the reasons they are ow are many, but most will agree it isn't a position to envy. Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I apologize for referring to my husband as the ball-n-chain. Henceforth I shall address him as the sexual beast, or just beast for short. How am I doing Lizzie? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 IO.. you seem to be the one laughing about this the most.. so methink.. it's some kind of therapy for you... So I guess I can be some kind of help.. Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 IO.. you seem to be the one laughing about this the most.. so methink.. it's some kind of therapy for you... So I guess I can be some kind of help.. Laughter is the best medicine. Now if you really wanted to help...tomorrow night? 8:00? Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Okay, why not post a true pic for the avatar, Liz? I might buy this if the ones typically used are you. But, (and I guess I can say this as we are contemporaries) men are pretty visual as regards this stuff, and we are creeping into decreptitude. Despite the opportunity to hone your skills over a long period of time(or, hone you cone, as Beldar used to say to Connie), the degree of infatuation you assign to these guys is a little farfetched, doncha think? Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I'm sure believing that bit of fiction soothes the rug burn on your back and takes the sting out of that used feeling. I've actually experienced the emotions and validation of having a man completely enraptured by me without the guilt of knowing I wandered into someone else's relationship. I'm sad for you. I'm sure you were once a lovely person. Too bad you didn't figure it out before you sold yourself so cheap. You didn't need to. You still don't, but you do have to believe you can do better..... Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Laughter is the best medicine. Now if you really wanted to help...tomorrow night? 8:00? Performance anxiety is a terrible thing, Impudent. What if hubby is "impotent oyster" upon arrival in Canada? Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Performance anxiety is a terrible thing, Impudent. What if hubby is "impotent oyster" upon arrival in Canada? Not possible, Lizzie is irresistable. She told us so. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 Not possible, Lizzie is irresistable. She told us so. WOW.. IO.. It really struck a nerve.. sorry about that. Oh I should add.. I'm probably (most probably) way happier than you are.. Link to post Share on other sites
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