Jersey Shortie Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 The irony of this entire thing, is that it's not male insecurity..pot..kettle..black. It's female insecurity and male indignation, due to controlling women. Who is being controlling Trial? I never said that I told a man he isn't "allowed" to view porn. I am allowed to express my view point though without it meaning I am controlling. And your statement would fly if I ever claimed that I was not insecure about porn but I admit that I sometimes am. Despite that, i am able to rationalize alot of other conclusions and points about porn. My insecurity does not negate my intelligence on this matter. Finally, It makes perfect sense that porn is about male insecuirty. Because men can get all the physical, and YES, emotional highs that the feeling of porn and orgasm leaves them with without none of the effort. Because porn caters to male desires, male drives and makes every man appear bit , strong , incontrol and ALWAYS giving pleasure to women whhile not really doing much but being there and all the women are eager to fawn all over them. Just because men and women feel insecurea bout different things doesn't mean men don't feel insecure or that porn isn't HUGELY about male insecurity. that's simple Physcology. Link to post Share on other sites
BCCA Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I'll take you completely ignoring my statement about vibrators as a sign you have no counter argument to it. Link to post Share on other sites
redfathom Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I don't know you can't compare it to being the same. It's for people who don't have any other options, or people who just want something quick. JS, have you ever materbated? Have you ever had sex? Can you honestly tell me they feel the same...? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Who is being controlling Trial? I never said that I told a man he isn't "allowed" to view porn. I am allowed to express my view point though without it meaning I am controlling. And your statement would fly if I ever claimed that I was not insecure about porn but I admit that I sometimes am. Despite that, i am able to rationalize alot of other conclusions and points about porn. My insecurity does not negate my intelligence on this matter.I can see you nattering a man to death, if you ever caught him viewing porn. It would be all his fault that the relationship was deteriorating... Finally, It makes perfect sense that porn is about male insecuirty. Because men can get all the physical, and YES, emotional highs that the feeling of porn and orgasm leaves them with without none of the effort. Because porn caters to male desires, male drives and makes every man appear bit , strong , incontrol and ALWAYS giving pleasure to women whhile not really doing much but being there and all the women are eager to fawn all over them. Just because men and women feel insecurea bout different things doesn't mean men don't feel insecure or that porn isn't HUGELY about male insecurity. that's simple Physcology.While I'm sure there's some psychology to the porn addicts, to the balance of men, it's a way to wank off, without the work. Big deal. While in a relationship, do you ever get off without your man? Link to post Share on other sites
sxyNYCcpl Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 The EXACT same argument can be made about vibrators, of which I have NEVER dated a girl who didnt own one. I would see a woman who DOESN'T own a vibrator as a great big red flag. Tells me that experiencing sexual pleasure isn't important enough to her. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I would see a woman who DOESN'T own a vibrator as a great big red flag. Tells me that experiencing sexual pleasure isn't important enough to her.I've never owned a vibrator and have no plans to do so. Not everyone needs a hand-held to experience sexual pleasure. Detached penises make me laugh. Link to post Share on other sites
redfathom Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I don't like a vibrator, personally. I have two, but I only use them with hubby for fun. If it's one-on-one, I prefer not to, I just hate the idea of sticking a piece of plastic up there...ewwww! Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 That's like saying, if a man doesn't "do" warm canteloupes, he lacks sensuality! Link to post Share on other sites
You'reasian Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Say if your wife actually was a porn star and she did everything that the women in the videos did, would you men still need to look at more porn? will this satisfy you Not sure if I would be willing to marry a porn star, but if I was married to one, I'm sure she'd probably encourage it, since this is her trade lol Link to post Share on other sites
sxyNYCcpl Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I've never owned a vibrator and have no plans to do so. I didn't mean to imply it is a character flaw, only that were I dating a woman who didn't own one it would cause me to question her level of desire when it came to enjoying sex on a regular basis. Sort of like if someone hasn't had an orgasm in 18 months that would be a problem, because the fact that they allow that to happen tells me it's NBD to them and strongly implies that it would eventually happen to me. I'm not a woman, so I cannot testify from personal experience, but from observational experience a good vibrator can cause mind-numbingly intense orgasms, if you've never tried it you may find you like it. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I didn't mean to imply it is a character flaw, only that were I dating a woman who didn't own one it would cause me to question her level of desire when it came to enjoying sex on a regular basis. Sort of like if someone hasn't had an orgasm in 18 months that would be a problem, because the fact that they allow that to happen tells me it's NBD to them and strongly implies that it would eventually happen to me.You realize that vibrators can desensitize, don't you? I'm not a woman, so I cannot testify from personal experience, but from observational experience a good vibrator can cause mind-numbingly intense orgasms, if you've never tried it you may find you like it. While not all women are created the same, orgasm for me, begins in the mind. If I'm laughing too hard or am just not that into the vibrator, it won't do anything for me. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I've dated a few small-time porn stars as well as other girls who were at one time or another working as strippers or even a couple ex-hookers. I don't see what the big difference is, it's who they are NOW that counts. Most of them enjoyed porn more than *I* ever did or probably ever will. Why the obsession with porn and porn stars? Is it some sort of insecurity over physical appearance or something? Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 A man who uses porn as a masturbatory tool will do so regardless of who his partner is or what she does. Why? Because masturbating isn't the same as sex with a partner for him. Link to post Share on other sites
sxyNYCcpl Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 You realize that vibrators can desensitize, don't you? No, I didn't. Guess the effect varies, because Mrs. sxy burns out 2-3 of them a year and I can attest that her sensitivity has not been affected. While not all women are created the same, orgasm for me, begins in the mind. If I'm laughing too hard or am just not that into the vibrator, it won't do anything for me. Here's one that I've seen be particularly affective. It may be hard to laugh when you are quivering and can't even speak from your 18th consecutive orgasm... http://www.sybian.com/sybian_overview.html Link to post Share on other sites
Enema Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I've said in other threads about porn: I could be married to Jessica Alba who's begging for it up the ass every day and I'd still look at porn. Men like variety, it's how we're evolved. The best way to ensure your genetics are passed on is to be with as many different women as possible. We're smart enough to realize what's going on and most(?) of us can resist our base impulses and be monogamous, but the urge for variety is still there. Link to post Share on other sites
You'reasian Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Addressing the issue that MR and JS have with porn, most guys will look at porn alot less if they have a gf or so - especially one who shares a similar sex drive, they are blowing the issue out of proportion. Why do women whom use toys, get jealous when men look at porn? Most guys are ok with the toys. Link to post Share on other sites
Author MeaganRaye Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 Meagan, good luck finding a man who doesn't look at porn. I suggest you get used to being single... Well, I refuse to accept a man who has a habit of looking at porn. It's a shame that I have been forced to accept this in today's society. I wish I lived in the olden days where men did not have access to this Link to post Share on other sites
sxyNYCcpl Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Wish in one hand, and spit in the other. Let me know which one fills up first. Link to post Share on other sites
Author MeaganRaye Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 How many women own a vibrator? How realistic would it be for a guy to say he didnt want to be with a woman who was never satisfied with what she had? Come on, seriously now. You make it sound like the very act of owning porn makes you a pervert. You really have some issues here. A vibrator is not a man, though. It's just an object. Men are looking at real live naked women having sex on a video, and fantasizing about being with them sexually Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 A vibrator is not a man, though. It's just an object. Men are looking at real live naked women having sex on a video, and fantasizing about being with them sexuallyHow do you know they're not fantasizing about having sex with the guy in the video? Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 This thread is a riot. To the moon, Alice! I'd pay good money to hear the JS/Meghan call-in hour on the radio! :lmao: Same here. Wouldn't it be fun to hear them being interviewed by some of todays radio hosts? I could be married to Jessica Alba who's begging for it up the ass every day and I'd still look at porn.. Every time we have another one of these threads, I say the same thing. Not ALL men are into porn, my H isn't that bothered by it, but I wouldn't blame him for being a little right now seeing as my libido has taken a nose dive with being pregnant. I can repeat my mantra over and over "There ARE normal nice guys out there that aren't jerks or sex addicts or whatever, and I know this because I married one" but neither MR or JS ever listen to me. I don't think they want to believe that it could be true. Link to post Share on other sites
You'reasian Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 A vibrator is not a man, though. It's just an object. Justification? lol Link to post Share on other sites
Author MeaganRaye Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 This makes no sense to me what-so-ever. The irony of this entire thing, is that it's not male insecurity..pot..kettle..black. It's female insecurity and male indignation, due to controlling women. A woman has a good reason to be insecure if her S/O is looking at naked women having sex. I can't have self esteem and accept this from a man. I don't know how some women do it Link to post Share on other sites
You'reasian Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 How do you know they're not fantasizing about having sex with the guy in the video? They do! lol And there's nothing wrong with that. but according to JS and MR, the world crumbles when a man looks at porn and gets off. Link to post Share on other sites
sxyNYCcpl Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 :lmao: Same here. Wouldn't it be fun to hear them being interviewed by some of todays radio hosts? OMG, could you imagine the two of them on Howard Stern, debating with his lesbian pornstars and their Sybian??? Talk about a smackdown, that would be one for the ages! Link to post Share on other sites
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