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Just remember the facts here Ariadne.. DG is JUST a friend, nothing more, nothing less. He is not inlove with you and he doesn't want a romanic relationship with you. I think you know how hard it is to be friends with someone you're inlove with.

 

Good luck with this one, obviously you see something worthy in him which makes you hang onto someone who doesn't love you back and the rest of us don't see it.

 

Oh you are so negative...

 

I'll "always" be trying to conquer his heart.

 

And if I fail, well, so be it.

 

I still love him as always and I'm glad to be talking with him.

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:rolleyes:

 

Yeah, I can't help it.

 

I'll beg if I have to.

 

Crawl to his feet.

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NO, NO, NO! *Sigh* What are you doing?

 

Oh Ariadne, words just escape me at this point!

 

Yeah,

 

Well, he explained to me why he didn't come to the forum and read my stuff for all this time.

 

So, everything is ok.

 

:love:

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Yeah, I can't help it.

 

I'll beg if I have to.

 

Crawl to his feet.

 

Oh, yeah. That's sure to work. Guys always get turned on by a gal with no self respect.

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I feel that one day you will wish that you had moved on and showed yourself and your son more self respect ...

 

To put a lid on my feelings and ignore them is not showing self respect.

 

I can't help who I love, and he is a wonderful man.

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Oh, yeah. That's sure to work. Guys always get turned on by a gal with no self respect.

 

He is not the kind of man to be turned off by that, he'd be honored.

 

That's just the way he is.

 

He doesn't work with games, pride, stuck up stuff.

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He is not the kind of man to be turned off by that, he'd be honored.

 

That's just the way he is.

 

He doesn't work with games, pride, stuck up stuff.

 

So having self respect is game-playing and stuck up now? Wow. I can see this tactic has worked quite well for you with him. :rolleyes:

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So having self respect is game-playing and stuck up now? Wow. I can see this tactic has worked quite well for you with him. :rolleyes:

 

No, that just means that with him there isn't such a thing called pride.

 

But humbleness and honor.

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The honour of giving your naked pics away.

The humbleness of posing in 67921 pictures on his website.

 

I get that he has no pride, though. Wouldn't be proud in his place either.

 

"Have fun".

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Oh you are so negative...

 

I'll "always" be trying to conquer his heart.

 

And if I fail, well, so be it.

 

I still love him as always and I'm glad to be talking with him.

 

You think I'm negative? :confused: Afew weeks ago you were thanking me for drilling this stuff into your head, as well as A/C and many others...Afew weeks ago you were seeing that DG did NOT love you and wasn't interested in you that way. You seemed to slowly be seeing reality and atleast taking a positive step in letting go. You've done a complete 180 and now I see all along you had no intention of giving up your obsession for DG. That is what it is, obsessed love.

 

You're fooling yourself into continuing this fantasy-dream and it's completely onesided. But, if you're OK with lying to yourself about how DG feels about you, then go for it. Obviously you need him and the obsession, the fantasy to get you out of bed each day, to live life.

 

To put a lid on my feelings and ignore them is not showing self respect.

 

I can't help who I love, and he is a wonderful man.

 

Showing self respect is waking up and realizing that the man you love is NOT in love with you and realizing that you're WASTING your life for someone who has NO intention of making you his "ALL".

 

This is just plain sad. Sorry A, but this is doing so much damage to you. Shame you can't see that.

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So Ariadne what are you hoping to get from this thread?

 

Are you trying to show us what a loving caring man DG is?

 

Are you trying to change our opinions about DG and you?

 

Are you waiting for one poster to tell you to pursue your passion with all that you got?

 

*sigh* I dunno.

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You see this happening all the time, people who keep others around them, when they know they're pining away for them. This is all about pride and ego. Pretty toxic stuff.

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This is just plain sad. Sorry A, but this is doing so much damage to you. Shame you can't see that.

 

I don't understand the reason for the new postings..

 

Ariadne .. are you looking for more affirmation because he isn't giving you any ?

 

I also don't wish anything bad for you Ariadne but I'm not going to continue to post on your threads because it is just a waste of my time as you don't care what advice people give you to help you thru it..

 

You are in a very self defeating and self destructive place in your life and until you wake up and break the cycle it will continue

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You think I'm negative? :confused: Afew weeks ago you were thanking me for drilling this stuff into your head, as well as A/C and many others...

 

No, I never thanked anyone for drilling stuff into my head.

 

(Not sure anybody can do that either)

 

But for being so loving and supportive.

 

I "do" apreciate that. Thank you so much.

 

I just wanted to give you guys an update, because I saw that this thread kept getting views after it got ended.

 

So I didn't want it to end in something that wasn't the truth.

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You see this happening all the time, people who keep others around them, when they know they're pining away for them. This is all about pride and ego. Pretty toxic stuff.

 

No, that's not it.

 

I've been through that before.

 

My friend sent him this email which refects the attitude that many believe he should have with me, a while back:

 

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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:15 PM

Subject: About Ariadne...

 

Hey,

 

I'm a friend of Ariadnes, she probably talked about me, and I probably should

just not get involved, but I'm trying to help. First, please don't tell her

that I wrote you this, she would probably get upset with me. I know your

whole situation (thanks to number of forwards and Ariadne asking for advice

etc). Anyway my point is I understand where you are coming from and I

understand where she is coming from (I have been on both sides of similar

situations myself).

 

What worries me here is that even though I tried to tell Ariadne to move on

and let go number of times she is still thinking you will love her or that

you already do and that you are meant to be together (she is even still

thinking of getting a ticket and going over to your place). In the meantime

she's not getting out of bed, not taking care of her kid, not looking for a

job, she is just waiting for your emails. If you really are sure that you

don't love her and care about helping her, write her an email saying that

she should move on clearly. Leave no room for hope. Also say that at this

point it's best if you don't correspond anymore. You won't be a bad guy, you

would be doing her a favor. After that just cut off all contact with her. I

know it sounds cruel, but it will help her move on with her life and will be

good for her in the long run.

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And this was his response:

 

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Subject: Re: About Ariadne...

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:29:47 -0700

 

I won't tell; no worries on that part.

 

I don't know what to do. On the one hand, I've often thought that the best

thing for me to do would be to leave her alone and I've told her so. But

I can't make up her mind for her and I'm not real comfortable with

deciding what's best for someone else, disregarding her own words and

wishes. Some days she tells me to go to hell, some days she says things

that I interpret as "leave me alone" and I do; I don't assume that she'll

contact me again and I don't bother her after I've gotten a note to that

effect from her--but I don't just ignore her when she does say that she

wants to talk or exchange email.

 

Thinking that I know what's best for her--or that I'm all that important--is

way too much ego, even for me.

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What happened to...

 

 

I'm not going to be posting any of his emails because that is his private stuff.

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What happened to...

 

Well, that is not private stuff.

 

The private stuff I was referring to was about what he told me about his life for the past two years.

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(she is even still

thinking of getting a ticket and going over to your place). In the meantime

she's not getting out of bed, not taking care of her kid, not looking for a

job, she is just waiting for your emails.

 

:eek:OMG!

 

His response said NOTHING about his feelings possibly eventually changing. His only dilemma is whether to talk to you or cut all ties FOR you. He won't do that, 'cause he wouldn't get his "strings free" ego stroking that way.

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Well, that is not private stuff.

 

The private stuff I was referring to was about what he told me about his life for the past two years.

 

And his response now, in 2008, is exactly as it was in 2005. NOTHING has changed and this guy has NO backbone to end this with you because YOU give him such an incredible ego feed. He doesn't have ANY respect for you at all. He knows you're inlove with him though he has NO intention of letting you into his life romantically, he doesn't love you in the way you want him to, yet he's still exchanging emails with you knowing that you're wasting away waiting for him.

 

Honestly, I don't know how this guy sleeps at night or how he can look himself in the mirror. He is NOT who you think he is - That's for sure. If he cared at all he WOULD tell you goodbye forever and ask you not to contact him again. He doesn't have the balls BECAUSE you give him such an ego feed. It's ALL one sided.

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Are your effing eyes just closed Ariadne ?

 

Whatever happened to this ?

 

[quote name=

Originally Posted by DG Wrote In The Email]

 

But you should understand that I'm not looking for a romantic relationship with you

 

He doesn't love you in a romantic way...

 

How much more closure than that can he give you ?..

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Are your effing eyes just closed Ariadne ?

 

Whatever happened to this ?

 

 

 

He doesn't love you in a romantic way...

 

How much more closure than that can he give you ?..

 

Did you not read her post where she would willingly crawl to him? Or the one where she wishes he would allow her to "serve him?" She doesn't want closure. She willingly scrambles about picking at the crumbs he tosses her. She thinks absolutely zero of herself. So sad.

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He knows all this yet he allows it to continue BECAUSE HE IS GETTING AN EGO FEED out of this. Must be real nice for him to shoot off a quick email her once in a while and then get TONS of attention back. No wonder he doesn't want to tell her goodbye..Where else is he going to find a woman who will put her WHOLE life on hold for him, when he has NO intention of returning her love? This guy has some balls.

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...and the beat goes onnnnnnnnnnnnnn................

 

la de dah de dah..............

 

after seeing the compassion etc posters offer you here and then see your mean spiteful posts on other's threads, all I can say is - you're a real piece of work Ariadne

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