Can anyone here think of any women who are 25+, or 30+ and never had a boyfriend

[bubbaganoosh]

Good friend of mine met a woman five years ago. At the time she was 40, lived at home, never had a boyfriend and a virgin. he was marries twice and lived with a few women.

 

They got married last year. He's one that for some reason can't be alone and like the clingy, needy women. He got one that is damn near custom made. Needy, clingy. not real smart and I'm being generous with that. Can't wait to see when the cling needy cutesiness wears off because after a while if becomes a pain in the butt and it ends. she'll be in the nut house, he'll be looking a week later.

[Grumpybutfun]

Quick question....what exactly do you want to get out of a thread about whether or not women have it better in dating and sex than men? What will that accomplish for you?

Curious,

Grumps

[Phoe]

I know a woman. Met her 8 years ago. She has never had a boyfriend. She lost her virginity at 22 to a longtime male friend of hers who ended up using her and making her regret it.

 

She's beautiful too... light skin, bright green eyes, dark long curly hair, perfect teeth, tall, slender and athletic with killer curves. And the most vivacious personality and ridiculously intelligent.

 

She intimated the crap out of me when I first met her. She quite incredible. And yet men stayed away from her. I never understood it many years ago. I was always stunned at it.

[Justcurious3]

are a virgin, etc.? Because it's quite common in this forum and many other forums, to hear of many guys, men, who are 25+, or 30+ years of age that are still single and never had a girlfriend before, a virgin, etc.

 

 

To hear of so many guys, men that are still single, alone, involuntary celibate, can be used to debate, argue whether or not if women truly have it easier in the dating/mating game, or does anybody know of many women out there who are still single, can't get dates or a boyfriend to save their life?

 

 

Maybe women keep it on the DL, are less vocal about it than men are, I know one prime example of a woman was Susan Boyle, but cases like her are very rare for a woman, meanwhile it's not unheard of for men to have never had a girlfriend even in their 40's or 50's, I have heard from some dating coaches/gurus for men.

 

 

I heard on one other post in this forum yesterday, from a woman who said she knows of 2 women over 40 who are still a virgin and never had a boyfriend, I was very shocked to hear that, mainly because it's almost unheard of for women to be like that but it is not unheard of, not uncommon to hear of men like that.

I think in our society a woman still being a virgin is considered a good thing (since the value of women is their intact hymens) and for guys its a bad thing (since a man's worth is based on how many pussies he's penetrated) so that's why I think there are more guys wondering what's wrong with them versus women because the women are probably proud to be virgins.

[Shining One]

So basically his girlfriends asked him out, approached him, actively pursued him first?

I set him up with the first one (in high school). The other two asked him out on Match. In all three cases, they chased him.

[Toodaloo]

I know of one woman in her 40s. Single, no men, never been near one.

 

I know one woman in her 30's. Actually a great girl. Really pretty, teacher... Just never happened for her.

 

So no its not just blokes.

[LookAtThisPOst]

Wow..talk about good timing.

 

This article just went up -

 

What I've learned from 7 years of telling guys I'm a virgin ? HelloGiggles

 

OF course, this is a woman telling of her virginity, but it looks like she wasn't until her mid-20's until she lost it. And the guy didn't judge her for it.

 

Had this been an article for a mid 20's male, the woman he was with would likely take issue with it...and of course that'd be only a first date. Yes? No?

[carhill]

OP, I think this falls under the heading of there are some things in life that men will be harshly judged for and there are some things in life that women will be harshly judged for.

 

As men, we know, heh, from an early age, how things go for us, where the soft spots are and when to protect the belly. We have no clue about how things go for women because, well, we're not women.

 

Just because one might not ever meet a woman who's never had a boyfriend or observe harsher judgment of themselves as a dateless or relationship-less male doesn't mean that such women don't exist or that judgment of them doesn't exist. We simply have no understanding beyond that of our own experience. Presuming, worst case, it all does exist, well, let's get it filed under life isn't fair nor equitable and move on.

 

To me, it's like Bill Gates said..... one either learns to ride the bear or ends up under the bear being eaten by the bear. It's a choice.

 

Regarding the virginity thing, I dealt with that, personally, until my mid-30's. No woman ever alluded to knowing, even though I had a best female friend for many years, and no woman to my knowledge judged me, and I did plenty of asking out, got plenty of rejections and went on plenty of dates. That's one anecdote of an outlier male.

[LookAtThisPOst]

Also, there are double standards when it comes to the genders. Like some women can feel they can get away with certain behaviors because well, that's just how women are...or they blame it on typical female behavioral problems.

 

I get a kick out of how how when a woman snaps rudely at a man, unjustly, and then her friends stick up for her saying, "Well, maybe she was just in a bad mood."

 

As if being in a "bad mood" for being rude is justifiable?

 

OP, I think this falls under the heading of there are some things in life that men will be harshly judged for and there are some things in life that women will be harshly judged for.

 

As men, we know, heh, from an early age, how things go for us, where the soft spots are and when to protect the belly. We have no clue about how things go for women because, well, we're not women.

 

Just because one might not ever meet a woman who's never had a boyfriend or observe harsher judgment of themselves as a dateless or relationship-less male doesn't mean that such women don't exist or that judgment of them doesn't exist. We simply have no understanding beyond that of our own experience. Presuming, worst case, it all does exist, well, let's get it filed under life isn't fair nor equitable and move on.

 

To me, it's like Bill Gates said..... one either learns to ride the bear or ends up under the bear being eaten by the bear. It's a choice.

 

Regarding the virginity thing, I dealt with that, personally, until my mid-30's. No woman ever alluded to knowing, even though I had a best female friend for many years, and no woman to my knowledge judged me, and I did plenty of asking out, got plenty of rejections and went on plenty of dates. That's one anecdote of an outlier male.

[serial muse]

Quick question....what exactly do you want to get out of a thread about whether or not women have it better in dating and sex than men? What will that accomplish for you?

Curious,

Grumps

 

I am wondering this too. OP, you start many threads like this, that seem to be looking for validation for a viewpoint you already have, and you find reasons to reject other viewpoints. So I think it's a valid question to ask what you're hoping to get out of this? What would really be helpful to you here?

 

For the record, yes, I know several women who were virgins into their 30s, even 40s. This was for varying reasons. One got married in her late 30s (which is also when she lost her virginity). A couple of them are still virgins into their mid-40s.

Edited August 13, 2015 by serial muse

[hotpotato]

Women as a rule do not feel the same entitlement to men's bodies that men in general feel towards women's.

 

This is why there is a prostitution industry that is virtually all men buying women's bodies, often at great harm to women being used or trafficked. And, ever hear of a female Elliot Rodger?

 

In part because women don't feel that entitlement to have sex with and access to male bodies, they don't complain about it as much.

 

Ia about the entitlement part. Men think a woman should spread his legs simply because he is interested in her.

 

I know no man is obligated to date or sex me simply bc im interested.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

yep, that's why Hollywood made "The 40-year old Virgin" and the protagonist was a guy

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

I set him up with the first one (in high school). The other two asked him out on Match. In all three cases, they chased him.

 

Sounds like those 3 women were the initiator, nice to hear

[lino]

And I wonder why people think men have it easier

 

I don't know of anyone who thinks men have it easier.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

I don't know of anyone who thinks men have it easier.

 

Some people do, anyway, I should remember, Susan Boyle is an example

[William]

For those who wish to gather perspective on which gender has it harder in dating and romance, well LoveShack.org has a thread just for you and I'll even give it a bump so you can discuss such matters as desired.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/general/general-relationship-discussion/396907-consolidated-discussion-dating-relationships-my-gender-has-much-harder-time

 

Here, we're discussing knowing women of a certain age bracket never having a boyfriend. Thanks!

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

For those who wish to gather perspective on which gender has it harder in dating and romance, well LoveShack.org has a thread just for you and I'll even give it a bump so you can discuss such matters as desired.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/general/general-relationship-discussion/396907-consolidated-discussion-dating-relationships-my-gender-has-much-harder-time

 

Here, we're discussing knowing women of a certain age bracket never having a boyfriend. Thanks!

 

Does it mention on any pages women of a certain age bracket never having a boyfriend before?

[William]

Read it yourself and find out. If you have any experiences with women who are 25+, or 30+ and never had a boyfriend, or have completely struck out on that endeavor, post it up here. Pretty simple. Hope I don't have to visit it again.

[circlesinfinity]

are a virgin, etc.? Because it's quite common in this forum and many other forums, to hear of many guys, men, who are 25+, or 30+ years of age that are still single and never had a girlfriend before, a virgin, etc.

 

 

To hear of so many guys, men that are still single, alone, involuntary celibate, can be used to debate, argue whether or not if women truly have it easier in the dating/mating game, or does anybody know of many women out there who are still single, can't get dates or a boyfriend to save their life?

 

 

Maybe women keep it on the DL, are less vocal about it than men are, I know one prime example of a woman was Susan Boyle, but cases like her are very rare for a woman, meanwhile it's not unheard of for men to have never had a girlfriend even in their 40's or 50's, I have heard from some dating coaches/gurus for men.

 

 

I heard on one other post in this forum yesterday, from a woman who said she knows of 2 women over 40 who are still a virgin and never had a boyfriend, I was very shocked to hear that, mainly because it's almost unheard of for women to be like that but it is not unheard of, not uncommon to hear of men like that.

I wish I knew these guys because for a long time I didn't think they went through this.

[Nikki Sahagin]

Yes. Several of my friends are virgins still. For the most part my friends that are female and virgins are not conventionally attractive or have unconventional personalities. One of them unfortunately has poor hygiene. I think this is part of the reason why she is a virgin. Another girl I know is a virgin by choice as she is waiting for marriage. You'd be surprised at the people that are virgins. Even some people in relationships are not having sex out of choice. I also know a girl who is a high profile model in England. She only recently lost her virginity. She was 26.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

Yes. Several of my friends are virgins still. For the most part my friends that are female and virgins are not conventionally attractive or have unconventional personalities. One of them unfortunately has poor hygiene. I think this is part of the reason why she is a virgin. Another girl I know is a virgin by choice as she is waiting for marriage. You'd be surprised at the people that are virgins. Even some people in relationships are not having sex out of choice. I also know a girl who is a high profile model in England. She only recently lost her virginity. She was 26.

Interesting, and your friends are over 25?

[ShatteredLady]

I have this preconceived notion of older male virgins. It's one of those ideas I have in my head & I don't know where it comes from. Silly really. I've just never been in a position to ask this kind of question before. I find this kind of conversation very interesting. This whole forum thing is new to me.

 

Anyway.... The doubts I'd have.

An older virgin man will immaturely announce to his friends that he's "Done it!" & disclose personal details. Not gentlemanly. Almost horny teenager.

He will gain confidence with me & will be incapable of turning down any opportunity if thrown at him...some women hit on taken men & a man who's lived 'desperate' will be so thrilled by the attention he'll always have an affair weakness.

He will be preoccupied with the 'lame trappings of success' thinking that's what got him laid...fancy car, flashing the cash, extravagance etc. all things I hate.

[johndoe2]

Plenty of women are likely virgins well into adulthood, perhaps in comparable numbers to me. Of course, most women who are remotely physically attractive are virgins by choice. Most men who are virgins at that point are virgins by necessity, so those aren't necessarily comparable situations. I think a higher proportion of women are more or less asexual or not interested in dating than men, so excepting, say, the more obese women, there isn't as much a throng of women seeking romantic relationships and not being able to find them.

 

An older virgin man will immaturely announce to his friends that he's "Done it!" & disclose personal details. Not gentlemanly. Almost horny teenager.

Interesting. I was a virgin until 23, and only then because of an escort. As a youth, and to this day, I've always hated discussing sordid details and whatnot with other, and found it rather uncouth. All of my friends still think I'm a virgin, and I would never share any details of my sexual life with them. In my observation, if anything, men who are more openly sexual, including making raunchy jokes and talking casually about their past exploits, seem to be more popular with ladies than the ones who blush about it.

He will gain confidence with me & will be incapable of turning down any opportunity if thrown at him...some women hit on taken men & a man who's lived 'desperate' will be so thrilled by the attention he'll always have an affair weakness.

I've heard the same thing often said about men who start early and have lots of sexual partners.

He will be preoccupied with the 'lame trappings of success' thinking that's what got him laid...fancy car, flashing the cash, extravagance etc. all things I hate

Hmm, well if he only starts getting laid once he has lots of money, a nice car, etc., he may be onto something.

[Shining One]

An older virgin man will immaturely announce to his friends that he's "Done it!" & disclose personal details. Not gentlemanly.

I've actually seen this behavior from the men who are the most successful with getting women into bed. These are the men who bring out their phones to show you the pictures and say "I hit that."

[ShatteredLady]

Thank you for answering. To be honest I think I only know 1 virgin, my 60 year old Mums cousin, not by choice just lack of opportunity. It's interesting to hear others perspective. Braggers are incredibly unattractive as are overconfident 'ladies men'. To a woman like me there are many far less attractive traits than being a virgin.