What are the benefits for a woman to work at Hooters?

[salparadise]

I see where salparadise and preraph are coming from. I have a sweet baby daughter now, but as she grows older and past her teen years, I'm going to instill morals and values in her that she'll carry with her throughout her entire life - and one of the values that I'll teach her will be to attain employment that will enhance her resume and earn her an honest and DECENT living which will utilize the skills that she has acquired via her education as well as her intelligence WHILE attending a local college or uni, whichever she chooses.

 

I will teach her to allow NO ONE to EVER sexually objectify her and for her to NEVER do that to herself. Sexual objectification and exhibiting her body parts for the purposes of making money will be something she will be repulsed by and will be a notion that she'll NEVER entertain, let alone carry out. My mom taught me these values and I'll be passing this down to my dear daughter.

 

However, I try not to judge those young women who do decide to go down that unfortunate path. I just feel bad for them; because their parents didn't take the time (nor did they care) to instill decent moral values in their daughters. And as such, these young women feel that the only way they can earn an 'honest' living is to sexually objectify themselves in front of men who go to these breastaurants to ogle them and get a sexual thrill while they're munching down on their wings and guzzling down pitchers of beer.

 

The young women who do this apparently don't know any better and they weren't raised with any core values; or they don't know (nor do they care to explore) any other avenues with which they can earn a truly honest living without exhibiting their scantily clad bodies for sexual objectification. The tips that these breastaurant waitresses receive aren't any better or higher than those of a high scale restaurant or fine dining establishment. Also, the sad and pathetic truth is...a lot of these young women actually like the perverted attention that they get from men - which makes me wonder if they were sexually molested or abused and how extensive or severe that abuse was.

 

I was actually thinking about my daughter as I was writing that post. I don't vilify the girls who work there, I just think they have too little respect for themselves to know any better. It's like they have never been unconditionally affirmed just for who they are, so then all of a sudden they sprout tits and men start gawking and making a big deal of it, they see that as their value in the world.

 

Thank God I was able to help instill a greater sense of self-respect in my daughter so that she doesn't see showing her boobs as an reasonable way to be validated as a woman while making a couple of bucks in tips as a low class restaurant.

 

My daughter is currently 19 and waitressing at the #1 rated restaurant in this town for the summer, a non-franchise Italian place with an excellent reputation. The owner is an old school guy and they wear uniforms that are quite conservative. The hostesses don't wear the uniforms, but if they show up in a skimpy outfit with too much shoulder showing they'e sent home to change.

 

I am proud that she is able to work at one of the best places in town, and I will guarantee that she makes better money than Hooter gals. I don't condemn the girls who work at Hooters, I just think it's sad that they don't have more self-respect. And they aren't making any more than they would anywhere else. I guarantee those lecherous beer-swilling asshats aren't tipping based on how good they look... 20 percent of a basket of wing and a couple of beers is as good as they're going to do. Working at a higher class establishment is the way to make better money. Period.

Edited July 12, 2015 by salparadise

[BlackOpsZombieGirl]

I was actually thinking about my daughter as I was writing that post. I don't vilify the girls who work there, I just think they have too little respect for themselves to know any better. It's like they have never been unconditionally affirmed just for who they are, so then all of a sudden they sprout tits and men start gawking and making a big deal of it, they see that as their value in the world.

 

Thank God I was able to help instill a greater sense of self-respect in my daughter so that she doesn't see showing her boobs as an reasonable way to be validated as a woman while making a couple of bucks in tips as a low class restaurant.

 

My daughter is currently 19 and waitressing at the #1 rated restaurant in this town for the summer, a non-franchise Italian place with an excellent reputation. The owner is an old school guy and they wear uniforms that are quite conservative. The hostesses don't wear the uniforms, but if they show up in a skimpy outfit with too much shoulder showing they'e sent home to change.

 

I am proud that she is able to work at one of the best places in town, and I will guarantee that she makes better money than Hooter gals. I don't condemn the girls who work at Hooters, I just think it's sad that they don't have more self-respect. And they aren't making any more than they would anywhere else. I guarantee those lecherous beer-swilling asshats aren't tipping based on how good they look... 20 percent of a basket of wing and a couple of beers is as good as they're going to do. Working at a higher class establishment is the way to make better money. Period.

 

 

Amen, sistah When I read your post, it was as if I was viewing my daughter's future! She, too, will work at a RESPECTABLE high class establishment to earn a decent wage that will NOT sexually exploit her body and degrade her down to a mere object for perverted guys to ogle at. It's comforting to know that another mom on here feels exactly the way that I do! Most men on this forum don't agree with us and don't understand why we feel the way that we do, except Gary S., who does get it!

 

 

@Jay: I went there once with my bestie several years ago to pick up an order that she had placed for us to bring back to her place; this Hooters was right by her apartments and she bought wings for all of us girls on our night out. I didn't feel uncomfy when I initially walked in there towards the counter with her to pick up our order...but what I DID feel uncomfortable with was all of the guys that were in there and who were ogling the waitresses in that disgustingly glazed-eye pervy kind of way. Thank God that our order was ready and we grabbed both bags of wings and got the hell out of there. YUK. I'll never set foot in any place like that EVER again and never have ever since that night.

 

 

 

 

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[jay1983]

All that in 5 mins huh? Sound like you had ya mind made up before you even walked in.

 

I really didn't think you'd be this prude.

[BlackOpsZombieGirl]

All that in 5 mins huh? Sound like you had ya mind made up before you even walked in.

 

I really didn't think you'd be this prude.

 

 

Well, I didn't say it took 'five minutes'. I don't know how long it took from the time we walked in there to pick up her order until the time it actually was ready and we got it and left.

 

It's okay if you think that I'm 'that prude'. It's just your opinion and it doesn't affect me at all. It's just how I felt at that time and it's how I feel now about not wanting my daughter to ever demean herself to that level in the future.

 

It's all good though. You have your opinions and I have mine.

 

 

 

 

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[jay1983]

Well, I didn't say it took 'five minutes'. I don't know how long it took from the time we walked in there to pick up her order until the time it actually was ready and we got it and left.

 

It's okay if you think that I'm 'that prude'. It's just your opinion and it doesn't affect me at all. It's just how I felt at that time and it's how I feel now about not wanting my daughter to ever demean herself to that level in the future.

 

It's all good though. You have your opinions and I have mine.

 

 

 

 

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That wasn't meant to affect you. I said it because it affects me.

 

And for your info here's what I wrote yesterday.

Man am I glad I never had a daughter.

 

You know those psycho dads ready to shoot any boy who goes near his daughter?

 

That'd be me.

[gaius]

I was actually thinking about my daughter as I was writing that post. I don't vilify the girls who work there, I just think they have too little respect for themselves to know any better. It's like they have never been unconditionally affirmed just for who they are, so then all of a sudden they sprout tits and men start gawking and making a big deal of it, they see that as their value in the world.

 

Thank God I was able to help instill a greater sense of self-respect in my daughter so that she doesn't see showing her boobs as an reasonable way to be validated as a woman while making a couple of bucks in tips as a low class restaurant.

There's nothing shameful whatsoever about a woman wearing short shorts and a tank top to show off her body, if she takes care of it enough to be able to pull it off. It's part of normal female sexuality, and if women feel comfortable bringing that outfit to a starter job then good for them. What are we, living in the Islamic state now? You're happy your daughter is that repressed? =/

 

I think a lot of the responses in this thread stem from the fact a lot of women nowadays wouldn't fit into a hooters outfit even with a crowbar involved.

[carhill]

Perhaps already discussed but my exW and I would occasionally go to the local Hooters for a quick bite before doing something else and my takeaway from talking with the young ladies was:

 

1. Clean work environment with a 'formula'. No ambiguity.

2. Decent pay as waitress pay went

3. Good tips

 

Nearly all were going to the local state university and working helped support their college, either directly or to pay for 'fun'.

 

Personally, I didn't find their outfits to be that revealing, at least compared to college girls on the streets or at the university. Perhaps my perspective would have been different if going there as a single man in my 20's versus a married man in my 40's, IDK. I wouldn't have gone at all if not at my exW's suggestion as I tend to be more of an eat at home guy. Allowances were made for being married.

[Shining One]

My daughter is currently 19 and waitressing at the #1 rated restaurant in this town for the summer, a non-franchise Italian place with an excellent reputation.

She, too, will work at a RESPECTABLE high class establishment to earn a decent wage that will NOT sexually exploit her body and degrade her down to a mere object for perverted guys to ogle at.

It must be a regional thing. None of the higher class restaurants around here hire 18-year-olds with no experience. I'm sure if these women had the option of working at Hooters or working at a $50/plate restaurant, they would choose the latter. The question we should be asking is how much Hooters pays compared to other options available to the women in question.

And they aren't making any more than they would anywhere else.

This information is over a decade old, but my friend made considerably more at Hooters than she did at Chili's. She also made more than me at the time (per hour worked). I was doing phone tech support.

^ Yes, and as far as just strictly practical reasons for, say, this being a girl's job during or before college, when she gets out and is looking for a serious job, having Hooter's as her experience on her resume qualifies her for what? What does showing your boobs and flirting with customers while carrying a tray exactly qualify you for as a post-graduate? How impressive is that on your resume? Think about who would hire you with that as your work history and skills and who wouldn't. That alone should keep you from wanting to work there if you have college and a real career in mind later.

The friend referenced above now practices family law. Edited July 12, 2015 by Shining One

[E-Squared]

You know what's funny about this thread? I think that some of you, may ALL of you , have not seen this show called "Bar Rescue." I remember this one episode where this family revived their bar into a cowboy-themed bar. I remember the waitresses were dressed in much more revealing clothing than what is seen at hooters. They wore short shorts and shirts that are tied in a know at the bottom with midriffs exposed. Not to mention that I was able to see that the bar hired these women based on their level of attractiveness, as well comfort to wear those outfits.

[salparadise]

Amen, sistah When I read your post, it was as if I was viewing my daughter's future! [...] It's comforting to know that another mom on here feels exactly the way that I do! Most men on this forum don't agree with us and don't understand why we feel the way that we do, except Gary S., who does get it!

 

Well, make that two... I'm speaking as the father of a wonderful daughter. But aside from my role/perspective as a father, I think it couldn't be any more obvious hat the whole concept is sexist and exploitative.

 

The excuse that the girls who sign up to have their boobs ogled are doing so for the extraordinarily high income is nothing less than laughable. They're doing it for validation; out of all the boobs out there in the world, theirs are among the rare specimens that qualify as Hooter's boobies. The fact that their momma and daddy couldn't help them achieve enough self-esteem to transcend such a low level ego need is just sad.

 

@everyone else - I don't think it's a moral, ethical or rights issue, and yea, the outfits aren't as revealing as bikinis. But those factors are tangental to the point at best. It's distasteful in the same way beauty contests are exactly like dog shows, for female primates. Somebody figured out how to exploit the naiveté of young women to make a quick buck by parading them back and forth in bathing suits and judging them on their suitability for breeding... just like they do with pigs and cows at county fairs.

 

I don't know how this isn't blatantly obvious. We even have women on here defending it, including women who are old enough to know better and and are apparently intelligent, generally––which just goes to show that there are many different kinds of intelligences, and sometimes they don't overlap.

 

I mean seriously, the name of the place should be a tipoff, eh?

[carhill]

IDK, all the young ladies I viewed appeared to be wearing brassieres and apparent breast size varied markedly and trended to what I would call athletic. My exW probably was larger and showed more cleavage than the waitresses did. Perhaps that was specific to the restaurant in our area, IDK. In any event, I'd been around and seen lots of breasts in life and, to me, that part of the deal was unremarkable. Bubbly, talkative young waitresses I did enjoy. We both did. Food was decent too, perhaps a bit pricey. Maybe their program has changed since my D, as I haven't been there for five years or so.

[loveweary11]

I've only been to a Hooters one time,... to meet a 37 year old woman I was on a first date with. She picked to venue, since I wasn't from the area.

 

Was really tame, I felt zero sensuality there and the food was terrible.

 

That is all.

[autumnnight]

It's distasteful in the same way beauty contests are exactly like dog shows, for female primates

 

Speaking as an honor roll student who paid for her college by being in preliminary pageants where I wore a modest formal, sang difficult music, shared my views on current events, and grew in my confidence, this is just about the most insulting, pathetic, idiotic thing I have read on this thread. And considering some of the posts, that is saying something.

 

I am not a primate. I am a middle aged woman with multiple degrees, a career, wonderfully well-adjusted children, and a strong faith.

 

Did you even read your words back to yourself before you posted them.

 

Bad form, "Sir."

[Timshel]

Some of these posts are really...just....misinformation. A media fueled image perhaps that for the most part has no basis in reality.

 

Carhill, you're so right, I'm not chesty, lots of the girls weren't/aren't. Athletic, trim is a good way to describe the typical physique, yes. I got mine because...I was an athlete. A good one, a diverse one. A strong young woman.

 

Loveweary, yep...as I said before, we had lot's of couples in. It is NOT drunken leering men. There are other establishments better suited for that behavior.

Agree about the food by the way.

 

Autumn....sigh. Just some sort of misunderstanding/misguided perception. Women are strong from the inside out. Hooters and beauty pageants have nothing that can take from or destroy inner strength. Period. I'm sorry that others find theirs so precarious and externally dependent.

 

There are indeed loose women of questionable morality working at Hooters. They also work in law offices, doctor offices, law enforcement......name any profession. How about person's of the cloth?

Let's not forget the famous intern with all the prestige of the White House.

I'm sure her parent's were so proud.

 

Come on ladies and gentlemen. This is ridunkudous and unnecessarily insulting. I'm out of this nonsense.

Edited July 12, 2015 by Timshel

[salparadise]

...pageants where I wore a modest formal, sang difficult music, shared my views on current events...

 

Ah, autumn sweetie... you are indeed special, I have no doubt. I didn't mean to imply that you couldn't perform tricks as well... or speak with all the authority of a beauty queen on current events.

 

I am not a primate.

 

Are you sure about that? When was the last time you checked?

[autumnnight]

Ah, autumn sweetie... you are indeed special, I have no doubt. I didn't mean to imply that you couldn't perform tricks as well... or speak with all the authority of a beauty queen on current events.

 

 

 

Are you sure about that? When was the last time you checked?

 

 

Wow....do you talk to your daughter like that? Do you want her model to be someone who speaks to women with such disdain?

 

Up until now, I have had a lot of respect for what you post.

 

God...I gotta just say it. That hurt.

[carhill]

A benefit of working at Hooters is learning how to handle men of all ages focusing in on.... hooters. Think of it as paid social skills class.

[Toodaloo]

I was actually thinking about my daughter as I was writing that post. I don't vilify the girls who work there, I just think they have too little respect for themselves to know any better. It's like they have never been unconditionally affirmed just for who they are, so then all of a sudden they sprout tits and men start gawking and making a big deal of it, they see that as their value in the world.

 

Sometimes kids just go wrong and you have to let them make their own mistakes.

 

I know a girl who did a whole load of topless/porn pics. She was so excited and thought she was going to be the most glamorous person ever and that she would be the next Katie Price (Jordan or what ever its called). Soon wore off after all her work mates (mostly men), school friends etc all saw it. She was so proud at first and despite her family telling her that it wasn't a good idea eventually they gave up and said fine but the consequences are yours...

 

Needless to say she doesn't model any more. Needless to say the rumours will never go away. Her parents are also the most lovely people you could ever hope to meet. This girl has never wanted for anything emotionally or physically including being allowed to take Daddy's flipping great yacht out for a spin with her mates... She has been supported with every decision she has made, her parents have gone through pro's and con's with everything. She is just bloody lazy and wanted a quick way to make money.

 

While you can sometimes blame the parents sometimes people really do have to take responsibility for their own actions... that includes hurtful words.