Author Leigh 87 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 Jeez. Reading your last few posts, I'm starting to feel self conscious about my own big, crooked nose!! Oh. Big and it crooked noses are hot and normal on men mate....... Women look more feminine with cute button noses. Or small noses. Which I am getting spon via surgery........ You look hot and at least an 8/10 in ur avatar. Don't sweat your nose if you're a guy. It's women that have big nose that are rarely deemed attractive.
loveweary11 Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 But yeh I don't think I am totally plain..... I get too much attention and men who have thought I was gorgeous for me to be totally average and plain. I have features that pop out top much to be a total plain jane. Am I right or am I over rating myself?????? I consider myself a cute above average girl who isn't a knock out either but COULD BE lol with the right hair and make up and aslo my nose job. No, no no... *you're* not a plain Jane. Not many people are. I meant your hair is. Idk what part of the country you are in, so that's a factor if it's very rural, but the hair is kind of the wrong color for your features, is laying flat, but kinked up towards the ends. (see earlier posts).. the hair is plain Jane. I am getting a hair treatment today and I am going to play with using green and blue eye liner and then i am going to show u and get your honest opinion. You seem like the type of guy who would be totally honest. Unlike my male friends who of course just saying am gorgeous. Because they are my friends and like my personality..... Oh, I give honest opinions... soul crushingly honest opinions.. :lmao My female friends always come to me for this stuff. And I let them have at me so I know how to improve too. I totally understand your perspective though. Might as well have more guys to choose from so it's easier to find the right one... that's how I see it as well.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 Oh, I give honest opinions... soul crushingly honest opinions.. :lmao My female friends always come to me for this stuff. And I let them have at me so I know how to improve too. I totally understand your perspective though. Might as well have more guys to choose from so it's easier to find the right one... that's how I see it as well. And I'd prefer the type of romance where a man is smitten and falls hard for me which we all know is attributed to your looks...I want a guy to initially think I was gorgeous. I don't want to look back and have my husband think " well I didn't find my wife all that special to look at until I got to know her " I want to hold out for amazing chemistry and a guy who's very attracted to me from the outset. I want a super lusty honeymoon stage with top notch passion and chemistry. So if I want a future partner to fall for me from the outset and for it to be THAT type of relationship to begin with ( with the " in love " feelings and wild attraction from both sides) I need to loft my game physically.
RedRobin Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Alrighty... models with big noses... Just to show you that there are serious models who have large or unusual noses. There is at least one woman in this spread who looks somewhat like you... and even has small-ish eyes. https://www.google.com/search?q=models+with+big+noses&rlz=1I7ADRA_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5eqVVZytBoTs-AGM97fgDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=673 One of the things about lots of models is that they almost always have a memorable, often quirky face. I still think you spend too much time comparing yourself to others, but oh well. Here's another example. You kind of look like her (in the face, of course). Wendy Whelan. One of my favorite ballerinas. No butter faces allowed in ballet. Especially not a principal like her. https://www.google.com/search?q=wendy+whelan&rlz=1I7ADRA_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0-yVVYmKIMqo-QHV6JKACA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1366&bih=673#imgdii=0WrIlMVS9QYoqM%3A%3B0WrIlMVS9QYoqM%3A%3BzmBN2ASioaonsM%3A&imgrc=0WrIlMVS9QYoqM%3A Edited July 3, 2015 by RedRobin
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 Alrighty... models with big noses... Just to show you that there are serious models who have large or unusual noses. There is at least one woman in this spread who looks somewhat like you... and even has small-ish eyes. https://www.google.com/search?q=models+with+big+noses&rlz=1I7ADRA_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5eqVVZytBoTs-AGM97fgDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=673 One of the things about lots of models is that they almost always have a memorable, often quirky face. I still think you spend too much time comparing yourself to others, but oh well. Here's another example. You kind of look like her (in the face, of course). Wendy Whelan. One of my favorite ballerinas. No butter faces allowed in ballet. Especially not a principal like her. https://www.google.com/search?q=wendy+whelan&rlz=1I7ADRA_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0-yVVYmKIMqo-QHV6JKACA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1366&bih=673#imgdii=0WrIlMVS9QYoqM%3A%3B0WrIlMVS9QYoqM%3A%3BzmBN2ASioaonsM%3A&imgrc=0WrIlMVS9QYoqM%3A Wow. Wendy sure is lovely. She is no butter face. You're seriously comparing me to her ??? ?? her nose won't be palatable for all men but she would sure be deemed beautiful.... Not just pretty but beautiful, to ample supplies of men AND women.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 Come on though, Do you folks really think that big nosed women can be considered attractive? Certainly not by the masses that's for sure. And Miranda Kerr is in that line up. She doesn't have a big nose in proportion to her face plus her profile is fine. Gisele... She is a striking woman and attractive but I've never thought she was attractive enough to model. Her nose is huge. But yes she is still attractive you're right. Sarah Jessica Parker isn't what I could consider attractive but she's isn't ugly. Her nose ruins her entire face in my opinion and she doesn't have amazing lips or eyes to off set her nose.
Ninjainpajamas Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 Look up Ashley Simpson if you want to see what a difference a nose job can make... I think the picutres speak for themselves. Before her surgery, I wouldn't even gave her a second look...after, she's definitely much more attractive...albeit being the same person. Keep in mind she probably had a talented surgeon, and her chin and likely other little things brushed up on in order to make a "new face"...because at least to me, she looks like an entirely different person. However I'd scan the internet for some more natural looking ones and with the same hair color. But still, IMO she looks phenomenally better than she did before...but she in realistic terms, is likely an exception. I don't think a single nose job will turn you around in terms of looks, but if it makes you feel better and something bothers you...whatever it is, I'm sure it'll give you more confidence in how you look...and after all, that's what's important...isn't it? People have the options to choose...sometimes they just stand at the edge of the dock however waiting for that ship to sail by, then when it's gone they act like things figured themselves out...when they were just too afraid to take the plunge...don't not do something in life out of fear because that'll never get you anywhere, but recognize the possible consequences as well and the fact like with most things in life, it doesn't always change your life the way you wanted it or meets your expectations, but you've got to take risks to in life to live it.
Bobbi7 Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I think for women-its "how many men check her out, ask her out on dates, how helpful they are when she's out in public, how often they strike up a conversation with her, if she had car trouble-how many men are willing to stop by and help her." The whole-car breaks down on the road for an attractive women comes to mind. Men will go out of her way to stop and offer help. Also, one time I was watching 20/20 a few years ago, and they did an episode-like "do attractive people get treated better?" A hot woman is walking in a busy city street, she drops papers she is carrying and everyone stops to help her. Then, they had an average-plain jane woman-she drops papers and no one bothers to help them pick it up for her.... 1
RedRobin Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Wow. Wendy sure is lovely. She is no butter face. You're seriously comparing me to her ??? ?? her nose won't be palatable for all men but she would sure be deemed beautiful.... Not just pretty but beautiful, to ample supplies of men AND women. Yes, you remind me of her face... ... and something I should mention about Wendy. Take a good look at her body. She was criticized a lot for her body in ballet. People said she was too angular. Too masculine. She has scoliosis. Usually a kiss of death in being selected for training or the top positions. She overcame all of that to be the top in her field. Her expression when she dances is unparalleled. Oh, she has zero breasts, is skinny, blah blah. She is happily married to a guy I'm sure is totally ga-ga for her. So, I'm telling you... what makes you unique is what makes you special. Everyone has challenges, or what they perceive as a challenge. Even the women you consider 'beautiful'. You will never be everyone's cup of tea... or even LOTS of men's cup of tea... but take it from a girl who is definitely average and with no shortage of male attention my whole life, for some bizarre reason... it ain't about piece parts. It really isn't. It took me a very long time for that to really sink in. This isn't a pep talk. This is my way of trying to get you to not make the same mistake a lot of young people make... you have so many gifts and talents that are going to waste while you obsess on this. Edited: After going over people's other posts on this... I agree that you have to do whatever is best for you and accept the outcome, whatever it is. I agree that you shouldn't let fear rule your life. It is your body. If you feel like a prisoner in your own body (or nose, as it were), who is anyone to tell you differently? Not me. However, if you can find a way to value other things, I expect you will be a lot more resilient as a person. Because somehow, I'm thinking that your worries won't stop once you get that nose job. and about Gisele and Sarah... Gisele is a millionaire based totally on her looks... but I imagine getting to that level involves other talents and abilities too... Sarah is a millionaire based partly on her looks. Her quirky looks, I might add. Just my 0.02, but Ashlee Simpson turned herself into just another cookie cutter face. Pretty. But unremarkable and totally forgettable. That is what most plastic surgery gets you... You get to look like everyone else. Which is important to some people. I get it. Edited July 3, 2015 by RedRobin 4
regine_phalange Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 Wow, this ballerina you posted RedRobin may not be universally attractive, but indeed, her facial expressions are beautiful! Wow! I also like strong noses, in men and women alike. I find Gisele very beautiful and I love her nose.
Revolver Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 If you have to ask that means you're not good looking. Me personally I noticed from early the way women acter around the "hot" guys compared to guys like me and others and it was a very significant difference
Rejected Rosebud Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 You ARE attractive but your huge concern about wanting "ample supplies" of guys to be all over you is not a good reason to get surgery, you will still be attractive like you are now after your nose job but I doubt that you'll be satisfied with the attention you'll get which might not be any more than you already get. You talk alot about what a bangin body you have, that is more than enough to get many guys attention regardless of what your nose is like. :bunny:
GemmaUK Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I don't understand why this would be of any concern to someone who 'some' considered attractive. You consider yourself attractive Leigh. You have stated it time and again all over this forum. What I could not deal with is someone who is fixated on their looks either in an insecure way or an 'I am gorgeous' way. That would be a dealbreaker relationship wise and even getting to know wise. 1
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 If you have to ask that means you're not good looking. Me personally I noticed from early the way women acter around the "hot" guys compared to guys like me and others and it was a very significant difference I'm told that I'm goodbye looking weekly by random strangely, family and friends. And members of the opposed sex. A girl from my degree at college randomly Said " you are the kind of girl that a guy will fall jead over heels for, with those lips and eyes of your". But I dont see that I also don't have the features of the top tier model looking alike woman, either. So I do get told my place.. Yet because not everyone agrees, I have even been the victim to adult bullying too regarding my looked namely my nose. Whenever my exes friends would make moves on me, their partners would write all over their social media " get lost big nose. Ugly chicks suck, jumping all over the rare men who pay them attention"
GemmaUK Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) I'm told that I'm goodbye looking weekly by random strangely, family and friends. And members of the opposed sex. What does 'goodbye looking weekly' mean? Is it a compliment? What does 'random strangely' and the 'opposed sex' mean? Am I losing it? Are there new phrases and names I have no clue about? Edited July 3, 2015 by GemmaUK 3
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 What does 'goodbye looking weekly' mean? Is it a compliment? What does 'random strangely' and the 'opposed sex' mean? Am I losing it? Are there new phrases and names I have no clue about? Auto correct. Apologies. My point was, we are all Show our place. Moreover, the types of people that fancy us should be telling also. Do cute and or highly regarded members of the opposed sex find us attractive? I personally get some cute and or successful men with options who think Im very attractive Yet I don't have hot guys lining up either because I aint no model. How much merit does that there have? The people who find you attractive?
ascendotum Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Just my 0.02, but Ashlee Simpson turned herself into just another cookie cutter face. Pretty. But unremarkable and totally forgettable. That is what most plastic surgery gets you... You get to look like everyone else. Which is important to some people. I get it. I agree. She's pretty but just another forgettable pretty blond woman. Reading Ninja's post about her.."she looks phenomenally better than she did before" I just didn't get it. I would be just as happy dating the pre op AS as post op. Having a slightly jutting chin or a slightly big nose is just minor in the scheme of her overall beauty to me. Its those distinctive features that make her face a bit more memorable that for me adds appeal. I have had a number of ethnic gfs so I guess I'm a bit unconventional in not getting overly excited over the all American blond big boobs bit hips beach babe look. I find the blond actress Tilda Swinton attractive even though I admit she is not pretty but quite distinctive when it comes to hollywood. An actress like Alicia Silverstone, I'm sure the vast majority of people would rate as pretty and she is but to me she is just bland pretty.
Weezy1973 Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 "Attractive" is not really definable. I think you're asking the wrong question. Be yourself Leigh. That's it. Full stop. The people that will find you attractive will, and those that don't, won't.
ascendotum Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 How much merit does that there have? The people who find you attractive? To me its that's the big key factor. I'm sure most people would trade having 10 average/old/ugly/fat/skinny people a week coming up to them and chatting & flirting with them for just 1 gorgeous person a week flirting with them. This is what guys refer to when they talk about leagues. Sure they can talk to a bunch of plain/cute/gorgeous woman during the week, but what counts is what ones respond favorably back. As the years and rejections mount up guys get a pretty good idea where they rate. If no women that you/others consider attractive has the time of day for you, then as a guy you are not rated accordingly. For women the waters are muddier when it comes to this, as guys showing interest in her have different intentions. For women - nsa market value > gf/str market value > wife market value. 1
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 I've posted some new pics What ones make me look attractive and which ones do not. I wanna know which pics to put on my dating profile.
Snakechammah Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Leigh, it's better to be a 2 who finds true love (with another 2 no less) than to be a 10 who is used over and over again.
Grumpybutfun Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 How can you tell whether you're attractive? We all know hot men sleep with average women since many men will shag anything on offer. Vomit. Men probably know more readily whether or not they are considered attractive. Since the hottest women and women in general are more relationship orientated and don't shag average dudes if they are smoking hot women... Thoughts? My friends a model and she doesn't have totally hot dudes ." You are inundated with external, shallow facts....I am thinking you come from a very shallow place...you will get shallow or insecure only. You seem to be barreling towards failure. I'm not sure how to help you since you have whatever life deems less as your goal. Maybe others can help with being mediocre. Good luck, Grumps 3
GemmaUK Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Auto correct. Apologies. My point was, we are all Show our place. OK, well, I'm afraid I don't know what that means either. 2
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 I've taken my pics down and I took three pics just now that I have put up. These pics clearly highlight how my lips and eyes would make me very attractive IF my nose was not so long. Surely Ninjainpajamas and others can't see how a nose job would put me in the " beautiful woman" catagory????????? I have the body after all and the lips. Just need the nose now. Then I will definately be what sociwty at large seems to be " attractive ".
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