Koopa Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Are you afraid that your daughter will be picked on because of her appearance (like overweight or underdeveloped for her age). If thats the case just try to get her in a different athletic program like softball, volleyball, tennis, soccer or track team. My sister was on the swim team in high school and she was overweight, she loved it, made some great friends and was never harassed by the boys. By the way there is another program that almost every school has, its called cheerleading and has girls jumping around in tiny outfits in front of the football team and a crowd mostly made up of men.
Shepp Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Would you not allow your daughter to swim in a public pool? Or on the beach? At the lake? In case there were boys there?! We're out of the 1950s where the world was so segregated! I'd be ecstatic that my daughter had access to the same training as the boys and was competing against them! Gotta beat the best to be the best! 2
Author astr591 Posted May 19, 2014 Author Posted May 19, 2014 Its swimming.... I guess teenage girls need to be banned from beaches, rivers, lakes, and swimming pools. but those are places people voluntarily go to, not part of the curriculum at school.
Hopefulandinlove Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 No offense, but you seem to have had issues as a perverted boy I guess. The amount of times you said that the boys would "leer" at these helpless girls is unreal. It's swim class full of awkward teenagers who are all too self conscious of their own bodies to worry about staring at each other. Toughen up. 2
Keenly Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 but those are places people voluntarily go to, not part of the curriculum at school. Then pull your daughter out of school and home school her. That's your only recourse. When I was a freshman in high school we had to do swimming. It was not a big deal. No one cared what anyone else was wearing. By making a big deal about this, you are going to alienate your daughter from her peers. Its okay... nothing is going to happen to her. There is no need to live in fear. It also.sounds like you are projecting whatever personal unresolved issues you might January e onto your daughter. 1
Author astr591 Posted May 19, 2014 Author Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) No offense, but you seem to have had issues as a perverted boy I guess. The amount of times you said that the boys would "leer" at these helpless girls is unreal. It's swim class full of awkward teenagers who are all too self conscious of their own bodies to worry about staring at each other. Toughen up. this seems to be how teenage boys act at that age. Very boisterous and rowdy. This is why schools I think should separate the boys and girls in this class. I did not say the class should not happen Edited May 19, 2014 by astr591
pteromom Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 this seems to be how teenage boys act at that age. Very boisterous and rowdy. This is why schools I think should separate the boys and girls in this class. I did not say the class should not happen That's how boys act all the way up through college too. If she can learn to respond to it now, in a controlled environment, that will only help her when she grows up. 9
Shepp Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 This is why schools I think should separate the boys and girls in this class. This reminds me of that "posh girls" song! If you dont want her mixing with boys then you should of picked an all girls school - i dont see why the class makes any difference! 1
preraph Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 The answer is yes, of course. Girls who get comfortable around guys at an early age and in a natural way like this are far more prepared to understand what men are like later on and not treat them like some great mystery or something to fear or something to worship!! 2
Haydn Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Teenage girls not rowdy? this seems to be how teenage boys act at that age. Very boisterous and rowdy. This is why schools I think should separate the boys and girls in this class. I did not say the class should not happen 2
lollipopspot Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 OP - get her one of these suits: WholesomeWear Styles That will definitely keep the guys from ogling your daughter, but she'll probably resent you for life... 7
GorillaTheater Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 OP - get her one of these suits: WholesomeWear Styles That will definitely keep the guys from ogling your daughter, but she'll probably resent you for life... No good. I'm pretty sure I saw the faint outline of a boob. 8
lollipopspot Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 No good. I'm pretty sure I saw the faint outline of a boob. Yeah, he would need to buy at least a size or two too large to take care of that problem 2
mrs rubble Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 As a quailified lifeguard I find your reasoning illogical. Everyone should learn to swim. As a naturist I find your reasoning illogical. Everyone should have the right to be able to feel comfortable with and unashamed of their body. 3
Koopa Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 OP - get her one of these suits: WholesomeWear Styles That will definitely keep the guys from ogling your daughter, but she'll probably resent you for life... ROFLMAO OMG its an Amish swimsuit, not sure she would do well on the swim team though, does not seem very aerodynamic.
Author astr591 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 As a quailified lifeguard I find your reasoning illogical. Everyone should learn to swim. As a naturist I find your reasoning illogical. Everyone should have the right to be able to feel comfortable with and unashamed of their body. No one is saying swimming is not important but putting both male and female teenagers together in bathing suits seems wrong
Koopa Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) No one is saying swimming is not important but putting both male and female teenagers together in bathing suits seems wrong Are you just looking for someone to agree with you? Because every post in response to your question does not seem to share your view, maybe this is the wrong forum for you but it seems to be unanimous that there is no problem here and it is all in your head. Boys and girls are going to mingle, the fact you have a daughter is proof of that, and tight swimsuits have been commonplace for over half a century now. Edited May 20, 2014 by Koopa 2
ASG Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 No one is saying swimming is not important but putting both male and female teenagers together in bathing suits seems wrong Lets forget about swim class for a minute. When I was a teenager I went to the beach/pool with my friends and classmates. Male and female. And while in swim class I would wear a one piece bathing suit, at the beach I would wear a bikini. What is the difference?? I was never harassed by my male peers and everything was pretty much above board. Are you saying teenage boys and girls shouldn't socialise? Because I can tell you right now, the "leering" will happen whether they're wearing a bathing suit or a big sweater! 4
preraph Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Astr, I grew up in the 1950s, a very conservative time -- and even then, boys and girls swam together! I think you should consider the fact that you have a personal problem of some sort that makes you think it is wrong for girls and boys to ever see each other in swimsuits and that sort of thing. I will caution you this: The more you oppress your child, the more extremely she will rebel. This will backfire on you. You are crippling your child by taking these extremely archaic prudish attitudes, and I can only believe this is serving you personally in some way, saving your child from some fear she either doesn't have or wouldn't have if you weren't instilling it in her. Let her be a part of the world as it is today, not two thousand years ago. 5
Author astr591 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 Are you just looking for someone to agree with you? Because every post in response to your question does not seem to share your view, maybe this is the wrong forum for you but it seems to be unanimous that there is no problem here and it is all in your head. Boys and girls are going to mingle, the fact you have a daughter is proof of that, and tight swimsuits have been commonplace for over half a century now. I find it weird that no other parents seem to have a problem, it makes me wonder if they know that it is a co ed class. Like I said before this is not a public pool but school. So school should have a place where kids have to wear revealing clothing? And opening girls up to potentially be harassed or stared at?
GorillaTheater Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 I find it weird that no other parents seem to have a problem, it makes me wonder if they know that it is a co ed class. Like I said before this is not a public pool but school. So school should have a place where kids have to wear revealing clothing? And opening girls up to potentially be harassed or stared at? You're the parent, you get to make the call. I imagine that you can keep her out of the class if you spoke up. You're overreacting, but you don't have to agree with me/us. 3
Koopa Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 I find it weird that no other parents seem to have a problem, it makes me wonder if they know that it is a co ed class. Like I said before this is not a public pool but school. So school should have a place where kids have to wear revealing clothing? And opening girls up to potentially be harassed or stared at? Maybe schools should cancel cheerleading, Theatre should be cancelled since most plays have a boy and girl kiss at some point, Health class should be cancelled also because they talk about the human body and sex ed. Lets not forget school dances, that time honored tradition definitely has to go. How does your spouse feel about the class? Is this a religious problem for you? What was school like when you were growing up?
pteromom Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Do you not find it weird that you are the ONLY one who feels this way? Has it crossed your mind that if everyone else is OK with it, your feelings may be abnormal in this situation, and maybe you should analyze the way you feel and why you feel that way? Girls are not going to be harassed and stared at - at least no more than any other time. And there are plenty of times in their lives they will be in swimsuits around boys. School is a SAFE place to be in a swimsuit around boys. Much safer than the beach or some hotel pool. 9
rester Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 I find it weird that no other parents seem to have a problem, it makes me wonder if they know that it is a co ed class. Like I said before this is not a public pool but school. So school should have a place where kids have to wear revealing clothing? And opening girls up to potentially be harassed or stared at? Is it you or your daughter that has a problem with this? Have you discussed it with the school or other parents? Nobody here seems to think there is an issue. We had co-ed swimming when I was in high school in the 90s. I don't recall it being a problem. I can see how it could be embarrassing for some of the kids, but they will mostly be in the water anyway. Swimming. If boys are going to leer or harass, they don't need a swim class to do it. 1
2sunny Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 I find it weird that no other parents seem to have a problem, it makes me wonder if they know that it is a co ed class. Like I said before this is not a public pool but school. So school should have a place where kids have to wear revealing clothing? And opening girls up to potentially be harassed or stared at? We know it's co ed. You are making unreasonable assumptions. Were you violated as a young person? Your expectations seem VERY protective - unhealthy even. Have you EVER seen kids on the beach? Minimal swimsuits and no oogling. Being disrespected is allowed when a person has loose boundaries. Have you taught your daughter to respect herself enough to stand up for herself IF someone disrespected her? It IS up to her to train people to respect HER. She is perfectly capable of telling others when the are being mean! To hide away from the world because of fear of being noticed isn't living. What freedom do you allow your daughter to have, if any? 2
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