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TaraMaiden Established Member

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Women who are average looking get much more attention than average looking men.

Onlee becus we got a bagina....

 

When talking about the really ugly people, I think women have it worse as they can't make up for it with money or status like guys can.

 

You Wanna bet...?!

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StanMusial Established Member

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I like girls who are in shape because I'm an active guy. She doesn't have to be a fitness model, but I'd like a girl who'd go hiking with me sometimes. I'm not going to drag some whale up and down the mountain LOL. So long as her face is somewhat attractive I'm not picky beyond that. I would say my standards are moderate.

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The girl on the right in the photo isn't bad looking. I'd say I don't know a 5 out of 10.

 

I don't know what my standards should be, because I don't know how good looking (or bad looking) I am. I'd prefer someone decent looking, but I don't know if I have a reason to expect such a person would be attracted to me...

harnold Established Member

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The girl on the right in the photo isn't bad looking. I'd say I don't know a 5 out of 10.

 

I don't know what my standards should be, because I don't know how good looking (or bad looking) I am. I'd prefer someone decent looking, but I don't know if I have a reason to expect such a person would be attracted to me...

You trolling, son?

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fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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You trolling, son?

 

Maybe my 5 isn't the same as other people's 5's.

 

Do you have an example of someone you'd consider a 5?

TheZebra Established Member

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In dating, you need to be attracted to the person you're with. Whether the attraction involves physical aspects or not is irrelevant.

 

I don't know what triggers attraction for me honestly. I've fallen for bald guys. Guys who are old enough to be my father. Skinny guys. Short guys. If I had to guess it's probably something about their personality that jumped out at me and got me hooked.

 

If I had to describe my perfect guy (physically), he'd be the following:

 

White

Short, straight, black hair

Narrow face (looks more like a rectangle than a square/circle)

Height between 5'7-5'10

Slender, not very muscular

Big hands!

Clean shaven face, but hair in chest is preferred

 

So those are the types of guys I'll try to get know first in a crowded bar/restaurant/group.

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Eclypse Established Member

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Maybe my 5 isn't the same as other people's 5's.

 

Do you have an example of someone you'd consider a 5?

 

I would say they are both a 2 or 3 at best (but I hate using the numbers). In my mind there are girls who are downright unnatractive, supermodel beautiful or those who are "normal/cute" for example http://www.taltopia.com/media/85/85788.jpg

 

Most girls I meet fall into one of those 3 categories (most often the latter).

Eclypse Established Member

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In dating, you need to be attracted to the person you're with. Whether the attraction involves physical aspects or not is irrelevant.

 

I don't know what triggers attraction for me honestly. I've fallen for bald guys. Guys who are old enough to be my father. Skinny guys. Short guys. If I had to guess it's probably something about their personality that jumped out at me and got me hooked.

 

If I had to describe my perfect guy (physically), he'd be the following:

 

White

Short, straight, black hair

Narrow face (looks more like a rectangle than a square/circle)

Height between 5'7-5'10

Slender, not very muscular

Big hands!

Clean shaven face, but hair in chest is preferred

 

So those are the types of guys I'll try to get know first in a crowded bar/restaurant/group.

 

 

Helloo ;) unfortunately I'm 5'11 and more muscular than slender. How strict are you with your requirements? I too have a list of physical attributes I'd like in a girl, but if I was to wait for someone who actually had every single one (and also liked me), I'd be waiting for a very long time. Compromise is ok as long as you still find the other person attractive IMO.

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My standards vary. I'm a fan of big girls (thick, chubby etc). Mostly curvy girls though. I prefer darker features on women too (dark hair, dark eyes etc) as long as they got some shape to them, even if thin.

 

There is a type of face that I like that I cannot explain though :D.

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TheZebra Established Member

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Helloo ;) unfortunately I'm 5'11 and more muscular than slender. How strict are you with your requirements? I too have a list of physical attributes I'd like in a girl, but if I was to wait for someone who actually had every single one (and also liked me), I'd be waiting for a very long time. Compromise is ok as long as you still find the other person attractive IMO.

 

 

Haha, well you know that one inch DOES matter ;)

 

I agree, my list is merely what my preferred attributes are - not that I don't consider guys who don't fit the profile. Last week I went out with a blonde guy.

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This photo just shows how dependent some women's appearances are on fashion/style and money, IMO. Put in a few grand to fix their teeth, do their hair a different way, get them contact lenses, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them and most 'cute' girls that many guys go after.

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JuneJulySeptember Established Member

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I didn't think that would be seen as anything positive, but I thought it would increase my chances of a woman being attracted to me since I would have a larger dating pool.

 

Seems in my mind people would see those who are less fixated on looks and more on personality as a plus. But yes, yours too I thought would help me. It hasn't really.

 

I would say they are both a 2 or 3 at best (but I hate using the numbers). In my mind there are girls who are downright unnatractive, supermodel beautiful or those who are "normal/cute" for example http://www.taltopia.com/media/85/85788.jpg

 

Most girls I meet fall into one of those 3 categories (most often the latter).

 

 

I hope that's not your example of a 5. She's more like a 7 or an 8. It's funny dude. I was thinking about who she reminds me of, and it dawned on me, it's the Tumblr chick I came across except she's Asian.

 

livin' & lovin'

 

Pretty strong resemblance, huh?

 

Anyway, I think that all of the 'unattractive' women in the pictures would choose you over us guys here that actually found them attractive. Funny that way.

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JuneJulySeptember Established Member

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The girl on the right in the photo isn't bad looking. I'd say I don't know a 5 out of 10.

 

I don't know what my standards should be, because I don't know how good looking (or bad looking) I am. I'd prefer someone decent looking, but I don't know if I have a reason to expect such a person would be attracted to me...

 

I'd say the one on the left is not bad.

 

Maybe a 4 or 5. She could work on her hair, lose the glasses and work on her body a little, but after that maybe a solid 5 or even 6, with the right style.

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This photo just shows how dependent some women's appearances are on fashion/style and money, IMO. Put in a few grand to fix their teeth, do their hair a different way, get them contact lenses, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them and most 'cute' girls that many guys go after.

 

ANY woman can look like a 10 if she just does a little bit of work. If I showed you a picture of myself after having just woken up vs when I get dolled up, it'd be the difference between a 5 and a 10.

 

There used to be a TV show where they'd take two ugly ducklings (man and a woman) and they'd do all sorts of work on them. Teeth, hair, nose, whatever. The before and after pics... wow. Those went from a 2-3 to a 9 easily.

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ANY woman can look like a 10 if she just does a little bit of work. If I showed you a picture of myself after having just woken up vs when I get dolled up, it'd be the difference between a 5 and a 10.

 

There used to be a TV show where they'd take two ugly ducklings (man and a woman) and they'd do all sorts of work on them. Teeth, hair, nose, whatever. The before and after pics... wow. Those went from a 2-3 to a 9 easily.

 

Hey, I don't think forking out a few grand for jaw/teeth reconstruction is 'a little bit of work'. :p But yeah, agreed with you in general.

Eclypse Established Member

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Seems in my mind people would see those who are less fixated on looks and more on personality as a plus. But yes, yours too I thought would help me. It hasn't really.

 

 

 

 

I hope that's not your example of a 5. She's more like a 7 or an 8. It's funny dude. I was thinking about who she reminds me of, and it dawned on me, it's the Tumblr chick I came across except she's Asian.

 

livin' & lovin'

 

Pretty strong resemblance, huh?

 

Anyway, I think that all of the 'unattractive' women in the pictures would choose you over us guys here that actually found them attractive. Funny that way.

 

 

Yeah she is more of a 7 or 8 I suppose, but like I said I really don't like using the number system. I separate people into attractive and not attractive. I guess what I meant by normal is just someone with clear healthy skin, normal body... I can't really describe it. I assure you I don't only find supermodels attractive! I find many women attractive just not... those ones in that pic.

 

Maybe my average is different from what other people think. I find many people average and that is what I'm attracted to.

 

Btw I agree she looks like that Asian girl (who might I add isn't bad ;) )!

KungFuJoe Established Member

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My two daughters are gorgeous (thanks to me, of course). Man I'm gonna be one stressed out dad in about 10 years, that's for sure.

TheGuard13 Established Member

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I celebrate the whole catalogue.

 

I’ve said elsewhere on here that I dated awoman that was 300 lbs. She was 6’1, about 230-240 lbs when we met. I wasn’t allthat attracted to her at first (though the first night I met her, I did go homeand spank it thinking about her). I dated her because I’m tall (6’4’’), and shewas tall, and it worked, and because she looked like a woman. She had fantasticbreasts, long legs, and a fantastic butt. She had a somewhat larger thanaverage nose, but it worked for her, as she had very Germanic features. And shewas actually in better health than a lot of girls who were in supposedly bettershape.

 

Weightwise, I cannot be attracted to larger(fat) women who don’t have nice curves. I grew up on comics books, and damn it,if I can’t have Wonder Woman, then I will have someone who has the correctbasic shape of a woman. I also cannot be attracted to fat women who have aproblem with the fact that they are fat, and who are wildly insecure about it.It’s a huge turn off. A fat girl who can deal with the fact that she’s bigger,exudes confidence, and is sexy? Bring her on.

 

I like sporty girls, but I don’t actuallycare if you’re athletic or in great shape.

 

In general, I like “cute” girls (I blameTHE SECRET WORLD OF ALEX MACK for this). The really thin, supposedly uber-attractivewomen that you see? Not into that so much. Never really have been.

 

She’s got to have decent breasts. I likegirls with smaller breasts fine, but I much prefer to be able to see cleavagefrom time to time.

 

She must have a butt. This is adealbreaker. There are many kinds of nice butts, from shapely to nice andround, but she must have one.

 

I like blondes and black hair, but I’ve hadtwo redheads for my long term relationships. I will not date a woman with shorthair unless she looks AMAZING (read: nearly perfect bone structure from everyangle), for the simple fact that I cannot stand the way that most women lookfrom the side. I don’t like women with no profile/jaw.

 

And, here’s the big one…I don’t care forears. Seriously, if you’re a girl who always wears your hair up or back, and Ihave to look at your ears, its probably not going to work out. My current girlfriendis my girlfriend partially because I can stand to look at her cute little ears.

 

I tend to be the most attracted to women inthe 6 to 8 range (depending on your objective rating scale, to a lot of guys, 6’sare too skanky looking and most men would prefer a 7 or above). To me a 5 is anaverage looking girl (plain), a 6 is a cute girl, a 7 is a very pretty girlwith minor flaws, an 8 is a very pretty girl with a nice body, a 9 is a gorgeousgirl with a great body, and as we all know, 10’s don’t actually exist.

 

With me, I can talk to 9’s and 10’s andwhatnot, and yes, they're very pretty, but I probably wouldn’t date one, and there are honestly very few I’d evenbother to sleep with. They just bore me, visually and otherwise much of thetime.

 

Hygiene and presentation are important, andimpact one’s physical appearance. I will not date or stay with someone whodoesn’t care how they look.

 

Now, as for what I’m attracted to in a man…that I can’t answer as readily...

clia Established Member

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I won't date a guy who isn't at least 6 feet tall.

 

:bunny:

fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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I won't date a guy who isn't at least 6 feet tall.

 

:bunny:

 

Some men wouldn't date a woman unless she was at least six feet tall...:laugh:

KungFuJoe Established Member

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Some men wouldn't date a woman unless she was at least six feet tall...:laugh:

 

Umm...I don't think such a man exists, to be honest.

candie13 Established Member

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I am 5' 6'' and pretty active, so I usually like taller guys and in decent shape, also the guy I am currently seeing is barely my height with heels and not what I'd call a gym freak, haha!

 

Just like TheZebra here, I don't have a type, really, but I am really attracted by strong personalities. Give me good, passionate conversation and you've grabbed all my attention. Insightful input and smart questions, these are my main requirements!

 

And nice, honest look in their eyes - I hate guys who give girls the dirty look, when they aren't watching.

 

Oh, and my body shape is more curvy - BMI around 120... I'd feel guilty to have dinner with a guy who is skinnier than I am. But would love to be convinced to - if he has the right arguments ;)

carhill Established Member

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Physical standards = ambulatory and healthy

 

At my age, that says a lot, surprisingly, especially around my demographic/locale.

IT Geek Established Member

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Sure, it is unfair that some people who are ugly are not going to get as many people interested in them for a relationship as others, but there will almost always be someone who finds them attractive.

 

Then there's the unfortunate few of us only a mother can love. :)

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