EasyHeart Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Keep in mind, too, that class doesn't necessarily correlate with income. Factory workers often make more than college professors, but I think most people would say that factory workers are working class, while professors are middle class. I remember reading an newspaper article 10+ years ago that highlighted "shocking" instances of women who married men who made less money than they did. In every single couple, the man was either in a high prestige/low income profession (eg, professor) or had chosen to make less money (eg, a doctor working at a health clinic servicing low income people). None of those couples seemed shocking to me; they came from similar class background. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 yeah, exactly like it was expressed in the comments of the article: the irony of that kinda cracks me up This is why I finally just responded to the last message I received from a 53 year old man, and told him that I was offended by the fact that he was overlooking women his own age (looking at 36 - 49 year old women), although it was rather refreshing to see that he went as high as 49, considering that I've seen men in their forties wanting women aged only as high as 37. (some contacted me, ignoring my own age limit, just as he did.) Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 And she wanted an older, wealthier guy when she was younger. When I wanted a girl my own age or even a few years older when I was younger, I dated a few, but many turned me down. As I got older, I got used to dating women younger than me. Women are to blame or this as well. You want to date the 23 or 25 year old with a job when you are 19-20. However, at 37, a guy approaching 50 is too old. People have dating preferences. It works both ways over time. Not all of us wanted that. I wanted men around my own age, and always have. Link to post Share on other sites
PrinceCharming Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 zengirl, where did you find those statisics? They sound interesting! Maybe this link was posted earlier on, but there is a very fascinating post on OKCupid Trends about the issue of age and dating: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-case-for-an-older-woman/ It supports both the majority male and majority female view on here. The OKCupid statistics say that women's desirability peaks at 21, and that they're "past their prime" at 31 (in the opinion of male users on OKCupid, based on their actions). According to the statistics, men have more dating options than women from 26 onwards. However, the writer also recommends dating older women, giving various reasons and all backed up by statistics (happier, more self-confident and optimistic, greater interest in sex, etc). Check it out! Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I see plenty of older couples where the man still obviously adores his wife. Don't let these guys who are mostly trolls tell you otherwise. I love it when I witness this myself. My own Dad is one of those men. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I love it when I witness this myself. My own Dad is one of those men. My father in law is one of them as well and there are plenty of guys like this. I don't agree with what these guys in this thread are saying but it does piss me off how women act like men like this don't exist. They act like all men are a bunch of ageist and shallow pigs and that is just not true. My neighbor is 60s and his wife is about his age and you can tell there is no other woman in the world for him. Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 My father in law is one of them as well and there are plenty of guys like this. I don't agree with what these guys in this thread are saying but it does piss me off how women act like men like this don't exist. They act like all men are a bunch of ageist and shallow pigs and that is just not true. My neighbor is 60s and his wife is about his age and you can tell there is no other woman in the world for him. I don't think women are acting like men like that DON'T exist, they're just not prevalent to the discussion. The discussion is why men won't date in their own age groups... Since those men aren't single, or looking to date, them loving their wives, while sweet, is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites
EasyHeart Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I don't think women are acting like men like that DON'T exist, they're just not prevalent to the discussion. The discussion is why men won't date in their own age groups... Since those men aren't single, or looking to date, them loving their wives, while sweet, is irrelevant.I suspect that the number of men who "won't" date women of similar age is pretty small. based on the examples in this thread, it seems to be an online dating phenomenon -- where people can search for people within specific age ranges or declare a preferred age range. If you meet a person in real life, you have no idea how old the other person is until they tell you. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Online dating is just a pool of messed up people who seem to search for the most unrealistic options. The women have their own standards too which are not much better. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 My father in law is one of them as well and there are plenty of guys like this. I don't agree with what these guys in this thread are saying but it does piss me off how women act like men like this don't exist. They act like all men are a bunch of ageist and shallow pigs and that is just not true. My neighbor is 60s and his wife is about his age and you can tell there is no other woman in the world for him. The examples we're getting in our own lives, other than that, aren't encouraging. My dad knows men who would happily cheat, if the younger women would have them. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 The examples we're getting in our own lives, other than that, aren't encouraging. My dad knows men who would happily cheat, if the younger women would have them. Maybe true but men don't have a monopoly on this kind of behavior. I am sure you know plenty of women who would cheat with no remorse. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Online dating is just a pool of messed up people who seem to search for the most unrealistic options. The women have their own standards too which are not much better. Not really true. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Maybe true but men don't have a monopoly on this kind of behavior. I am sure you know plenty of women who would cheat with no remorse. Actually, I don't. I know of one, and that was after she was cheated on. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Actually, I don't. I know of one, and that was after she was cheated on. It's to the point that a few faithful women I know feel like pariahs among their coworkers. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It's to the point that a few faithful women I know feel like pariahs among their coworkers. And again I'm going to ask you,do you work in a bar or a bowling alley? You frequently mention sexually explicit conversations that you witness at your job that are totally unfathomable in any professional setting I've ever worked in. More to the point, have you contacted HR, let them know that the behavior & conversations of your female co-workers is not appropriate & creates a hostile workplace? You have the power to create change, your female coworkers need to be at the very least reprimanded & compelled to receive supervision regarding their work place behaviors, from the sounds of things their employment should be terminated for being sexually harassing & creating a hostile workplace. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 And again I'm going to ask you,do you work in a bar or a bowling alley? You frequently mention sexually explicit conversations that you witness at your job that are totally unfathomable in any professional setting I've ever worked in. More to the point, have you contacted HR, let them know that the behavior & conversations of your female co-workers is not appropriate & creates a hostile workplace? You have the power to create change, your female coworkers need to be at the very least reprimanded & compelled to receive supervision regarding their work place behaviors, from the sounds of things their employment should be terminated for being sexually harassing & creating a hostile workplace. I no longer work there but I went to my boss and he told me that sexual harassment laws only protect women. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I no longer work there but I went to my boss and he told me that sexual harassment laws only protect women. Then your boss was seriously misinformed & needs to be educated about the law, ALL workers are entitled to do their jobs without having to deal with crude,sexually explicit comments, lewd jokes & remarks, open workplace conversations between married women recounting their immoral sexual exploits constitutes a hostile workplace. You should report your former employer so that they can be educated about the law & so that others who work there will be spared the misery you went through. Those women were dead up wrong & need to held accountable for their shabby behaviors. Link to post Share on other sites
Negative Nancy Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 The examples we're getting in our own lives, other than that, aren't encouraging. My dad knows men who would happily cheat, if the younger women would have them. my bf's dad cheated on and left my bf's mother for another woman when my bf was 11. a year ago he's been caught cheating on THAT woman (my bf's stepmom) with another woman as well. now that 50 year old man is with a 32 year old woman (yuck, my bf is 32 too, so she could be his daughter...) when i walk thru the streets i see other men checking me out even though they have girlfriends/wives on their arms. pathetic and disgusting...i always feel for the poor girls/wives. soserious posted an example here once that she as an "invisible" woman (her own words) has the neat advantage of being the fly on the wall when men are among themselves and talk truly in an open manner. so a hot young girl walks by, these men sound like wolves who haven't have food in a while, some of the nicer comments being "damn, i wish my wife had a body like that" or "i'd hit if i could". THIS is the reality of many women around the world, and hearing such "flattering" comments or seeing such "loyal" actions from your man after you've stood by him thru many years, gave him children and supported his every move is disheartening and discouraging to say the least. we may see a couple happy marriages, but who knows what's going on behind closed doors. he probably bangs hookers on the side, browses craiglist for anonymous encounters or watches porn, wishing the "slutty babysitters 153" would be with him instead of his lame, boring ol' wifey. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 My father in law is one of them as well and there are plenty of guys like this. I don't agree with what these guys in this thread are saying but it does piss me off how women act like men like this don't exist. They act like all men are a bunch of ageist and shallow pigs and that is just not true. My neighbor is 60s and his wife is about his age and you can tell there is no other woman in the world for him. Women on this dating board may act like these types of men don't exist because the MEN HERE are constantly telling them that these types of men don't exist. The MEN HERE tell us constantly that all men are a bunch of ageist and shallow pigs. I come here to combat that a bit....to talk about my positive experiences with men, and give hope to the women....and the men give me crap about it! we may see a couple happy marriages, but who knows what's going on behind closed doors. he probably bangs hookers on the side, browses craiglist for anonymous encounters or watches porn, wishing the "slutty babysitters 153" would be with him instead of his lame, boring ol' wifey. That truly is a negative way to think, Negative Nancy Link to post Share on other sites
Negative Nancy Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 That truly is a negative way to think, Negative Nancy maybe so, but just like you said...the men on this board spill their guts on here in a - in my opinion - more straight-forward and honest manner than you would ever get to hear in real life. here they are anonymous, so i believe one can find their "true" thoughts and feelings here. and many women have confirmed in this thread that they find many men acting the exact same way in real life as the OP's post. at the same time of course i believe you and a few others when you say you have happy marriages - these examples just don't seem to be the norm. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Women on this dating board may act like these types of men don't exist because the MEN HERE are constantly telling them that these types of men don't exist. The MEN HERE tell us constantly that all men are a bunch of ageist and shallow pigs. I come here to combat that a bit....to talk about my positive experiences with men, and give hope to the women....and the men give me crap about it! That truly is a negative way to think, Negative Nancy At the same time if I go on certain forums on here a man can easily believe that all women are bored with their husbands and would cheat on them in a heartbeart with a married man. I get hit on by married women all the time yet I am told not to let this color my view of women so shouldn't the same apply in reverse? Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 At the same time if I go on certain forums on here a man can easily believe that all women are bored with their husbands and would cheat on them in a heartbeart with a married man. I get hit on by married women all the time yet I am told not to let this color my view of women so shouldn't the same apply in reverse? If your DIRECT experiences with women have taught you that we are basically all abusive, slutty, faithless pigs that will Fsck anything in pants, then that is your experience & I'm not interested in trying to talk you out of that belief anymore, hell I'll admit that basically I am a female pig, I want sex, & don't wish to provide the guy with anything else .. so there you go. Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 My neighbor is 60s and his wife is about his age and you can tell there is no other woman in the world for him. Aww, that's great. This is how my parents are which makes me so happy. They aren't 60 yet but after 30 years of marriage they are still so happy and in love Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 At the same time if I go on certain forums on here a man can easily believe that all women are bored with their husbands and would cheat on them in a heartbeart with a married man. I get hit on by married women all the time yet I am told not to let this color my view of women so shouldn't the same apply in reverse? But you are MARRIED to a GREAT woman. These are single women, being told by very vocal single men that decent men don't exist. Few men chime in to counter (you have to admit that many women chime in to challenge the would-be cheating women). I do find it ironic that I come on this board to champion men, and MEN tell me I'm wrong Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I do see a lot of high fiving and you go girl stuff when it comes to women cheating but I admit it is not all women. I think half the men who come here are trolls and the other ones see dating as men vs woman and a zero sum game. For whatever reason they have simply lost all warmth in their hearts towards women. Link to post Share on other sites
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