Jannah Posted October 7, 2010 Posted October 7, 2010 I figured we'd get more responses in this section....But this thread is a spin off from a thread posted in the Sexual & Reproductive Health and Practices Section, with regard to oral sex. A separate subject was touched on, with regard to whether or not, fellatio or cunnilingus constitutes SEX. Some believe that oral sex, is SEX, whereas others do not agree that it is. So, male and female members of LS, do you agree that it is sex, or disagree.
Star Gazer Posted October 7, 2010 Posted October 7, 2010 I don't follow Clinton's definition of "sexual relations." Oral sex IS sex, and for me, it's the most intimate form of sex.
xxxheartbrokenxxx Posted October 7, 2010 Posted October 7, 2010 Yes, to me it does count as SEX. In some ways it is more intimate than penetration. To put your mouth on someone else's junk and lick them where they PEE is a very big deal. For those who think that you didn't have sex if you just engaged in oral sex with a partner, I have some interesting questions... Does it mean that as teenagers - you can have oral sex and still claim you are a virgin?! If this is the case, do lesbians never lose their virginity - never having been 'penetrated'? Is someone who is technically a virgin yet has given blowjobs to 10 different men any purer than a person who has been penetrated by one man? If you have oral sex with someone yet no penetration, and someone asks you if you slept with/had sex with the person - do you answer 'yes'? Is oral in the 'third' or 'fourth' base category?
Author Jannah Posted October 7, 2010 Author Posted October 7, 2010 Yes, to me it does count as SEX. In some ways it is more intimate than penetration. To put your mouth on someone else's junk and lick them where they PEE is a very big deal. For those who think that you didn't have sex if you just engaged in oral sex with a partner, I have some interesting questions... Does it mean that as teenagers - you can have oral sex and still claim you are a virgin?! If this is the case, do lesbians never lose their virginity - never having been 'penetrated'? Is someone who is technically a virgin yet has given blowjobs to 10 different men any purer than a person who has been penetrated by one man? If you have oral sex with someone yet no penetration, and someone asks you if you slept with/had sex with the person - do you answer 'yes'? Is oral in the 'third' or 'fourth' base category? Excellent questions!
Mad Max Posted October 7, 2010 Posted October 7, 2010 The last word in "oral sex" is SEX. You can still get STDs from oral, so yes it is still sex.
Star Gazer Posted October 7, 2010 Posted October 7, 2010 The last word in "oral sex" is SEX. You can still get STDs from oral, so yes it is still sex. Is STD transmission the standard for sex? You can get herpes from just kissing...
Mad Max Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Is STD transmission the standard for sex? You can get herpes from just kissing... The fact that you can get it from sex makes it an STD in that scenario. Just because it can be spread through other ways doesn't mean it's not an STD.
Star Gazer Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 The fact that you can get it from sex makes it an STD in that scenario. Just because it can be spread through other ways doesn't mean it's not an STD. I'm not talking about what constitutes an STD. I'm talking about the subject of this thread: whether oral sex is sex. You said if you can catch an STD from the act, it's sex. If that's your standard, then kissing is sex too. So I'm just trying to clarify your standard. I agree that oral sex is sex, I'm just trying to understand why you think that way too. Because when I try to put a "rule" to it, it would apply to non-sex acts too. It's a difficult balance.
Feelin Frisky Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 It's sex. No one accidently sucks d___ or eats c___.
Seamless74 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Of course it is... besides 99% of the time doesnt oral sex lead into traditional sex anyways... I mean i cant think of a time in my life where i didnt go down on a girl and not get laid ???
Star Gazer Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 It's sex. No one accidently sucks d___ or eats c___. Is "accidentally" the standard? Can you accidentally kiss some one? Finger a girl? Jack off a guy? What makes it "sex"?
Author Jannah Posted October 8, 2010 Author Posted October 8, 2010 The last word in "oral sex" is SEX. You can still get STDs from oral, so yes it is still sex. True. But STD's can be contracted through non-sexual means. HIV-AIDS being one of them.
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 I figured we'd get more responses in this section....But this thread is a spin off from a thread posted in the Sexual & Reproductive Health and Practices Section, with regard to oral sex. A separate subject was touched on, with regard to whether or not, fellatio or cunnilingus constitutes SEX. Some believe that oral sex, is SEX, whereas others do not agree that it is. So, male and female members of LS, do you agree that it is sex, or disagree. Seriously... if you actively engage in an activity which may result in the other person having an orgasm... it's sex. The ones I'm not particularly certain about are cyber sex and phone sex.
Feelin Frisky Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Is "accidentally" the standard? Can you accidentally kiss some one? Finger a girl? Jack off a guy? What makes it "sex"? Bottom line: if a person very much on purpose tries to chug an orgasm out of someone, it's sex. There's no gray area like accidentsal felatio.
brainygirl Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Its sex. The only people who say it isn't are people who want to deflate their "number".
USMCHokie Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Ok, after thinking about it a while, I will say that oral sex = sex. Any sex act is one that involves the genitals of one or both of the parties concerned. However, if someone says to me that they "had sex," I generally take it to mean that they had sexual intercourse. But that's just semantics...
JustJoe Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 I don't follow Clinton's definition of "sexual relations." Oral sex IS sex, and for me, it's the most intimate form of sex.I agree with SG. When my GF takes my penis into her mouth and drinks my semen, how much more intimate can you get? Or when I put my mouth on her vag, and drink her fluids? The most hidden parts of either of our bodies are being tasted by the other. I would say that's a pretty big deal.
USMCHokie Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 I agree with SG. When my GF takes my penis into her mouth and drinks my semen, how much more intimate can you get? Or when I put my mouth on her vag, and drink her fluids? The most hidden parts of either of our bodies are being tasted by the other. I would say that's a pretty big deal. Agreed, oral is the most intimate sex...
Author Jannah Posted October 8, 2010 Author Posted October 8, 2010 If oral sex is viewed as more intimate then sexual intercourse and oral sex is part of the relationship, how is it a "pseudo" relationship?
USMCHokie Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 If oral sex is viewed as more intimate then sexual intercourse and oral sex is part of the relationship, how is it a "pseudo" relationship? Wow...more with the interrogation, huh... Pseudo = not viewed as serious yet... Serious = I am looking to spend my life with the girl... That's how I differentiate the two...the term 'relationship' has a stronger meaning to me...that's why I said that "exclusively dating" and "relationship" were different things...relationship has a more serious connotation for me...just because I haven't been in many in my lifetime...and I had a late start in dating...so what you may call a relationship is what I might call exclusively dating... I considered my one 6 month relationship that you're thinking of my only serious relationship...
JustJoe Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 There is no such thing as a "pseudo", relationship. All relationships that exist are real, some good, some bad, some deep , and some shallow, but they do exist. By saying "pseudo", you are implying that a relationship doesn't exist but is claimed to be real , or vice versa, neither of which makes sense.
USMCHokie Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 There is no such thing as a "pseudo", relationship. All relationships that exist are real, some good, some bad, some deep , and some shallow, but they do exist. By saying "pseudo", you are implying that a relationship doesn't exist but is claimed to be real , or vice versa, neither of which makes sense. Correct. At the time of each of these "pseudo" relationships, I wasn't ready to call it a bona fide "relationship," even though for all intents and purposes, it was a relationship. Like I said before, I don't take the label "relationship" lightly...it's just the way I grew up...I was never in any relationships in grade school or college, so as I got older, being in what I would call a "relationship" was a pretty big deal and it wasn't something I just decided to jump into like kids in middle school might have done after "dating" for a week... So for me, "pseudo" relationship is what I called it...since "exclusively dating" = relationship to everyone else in the world...
Author Jannah Posted October 8, 2010 Author Posted October 8, 2010 Wow...more with the interrogation, huh... Pseudo = not viewed as serious yet... Serious = I am looking to spend my life with the girl... That's how I differentiate the two...the term 'relationship' has a stronger meaning to me...that's why I said that "exclusively dating" and "relationship" were different things...relationship has a more serious connotation for me...just because I haven't been in many in my lifetime...and I had a late start in dating...so what you may call a relationship is what I might call exclusively dating... I considered my one 6 month relationship that you're thinking of my only serious relationship... I wasn't interrogating, I was just trying to understand how you drew the conclusion with regard to what's been discussed.
USMCHokie Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 I wasn't interrogating, I was just trying to understand how you drew the conclusion with regard to what's been discussed. Ok...it just seemed that way from what you had asked me in the other thread and the continued line of questioning into this thread... So in essense, I agree with you on all points, it's just we seem to have different names for relationships...
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