quankanne Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 oh, come on, people ... American men don't cheat, nor do they want to. It's their HOO-HOOS that get them into trouble, because these men are being forced against their will to immerse to plunge into strange vaginas
espec10001 Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Let's go back to kindergarten and relearn a valuable lesson kids! When boys and girls get together, they usually fool around. It isn't the fault of the boy, and it isn't the fault of the girl. It's the way things are when two people who are attracted to each other get together. It doesn't matter if they are married or single, this is the birds and the bees which repeats itself time and time again.
quankanne Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 I'll stick with my wandering hoo-hoo explanation ... they think independently of their owners ...
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. I think it's a fair question to compare to the other thread. This is not meant to be out of the blue, but rather as a counter-thread to "American women: why some stray in marriage". Might as well scrutinize both sides! It's only fair. I'm thinking that when an American guy cheats it's because they don't like to see his kids, plus he enjoys giving large chunks of his income and assets away. As much as it's great to put the shoe on the other foot... It doesn't really go both ways. Why? Because Men can be legally penalized for cheating... while women can cheat and MAKE money from it. So... how fair is that?
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Better a smart-ass than a dumb-ass, eh? Those two traits are not mutually exclusive... in fact they can often go hand in hand.
Author GooseChaser Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 I'm thinking that when an American guy cheats it's because they don't like to see his kids, plus he enjoys giving large chunks of his income and assets away. As much as it's great to put the shoe on the other foot... It doesn't really go both ways. Why? Because Men can be legally penalized for cheating... while women can cheat and MAKE money from it. So... how fair is that? Life isn't fair. My sympathy, though. Maybe some men cheat because it makes them feel young. When they get older they have all of these responsibilities, including a life-long commitment to their wife. Maybe cheating with a new woman is exciting in that way because of the risk, danger, and ethical questions of it all, until the consequences hit. Most women don't marry to have a stranglehold on a man's income. If they get child support after a divorce, that just goes to support THEIR prized child-- a new, young human life-- in his or her growth and development. It's a good cause, isn't it?
Author GooseChaser Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 We all take risks, and we do that because we think what we would gain from it-- love, cash, a family-- is worth it.
donnamaybe Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 There are MANY women who make more money than their men. Me, for example. I earned more than my ex. Hence, he only pays 41% of the financial responsibility for our son.
Author GooseChaser Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 Personally, I may be earning a high income someday, and I would love to use that income to help support my husband if he wanted to make a career in doing something he loved (ie. music, comedy), rather than whatever paid the most money.
donnamaybe Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Personally, I may be earning a high income someday, and I would love to use that income to help support my husband if he wanted to make a career in doing something he loved (ie. music, comedy), rather than whatever paid the most money. That's what you do when you love someone.
Author GooseChaser Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 That's what you do when you love someone. I look forward to that!
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Life isn't fair. My sympathy, though. Maybe some men cheat because it makes them feel young. When they get older they have all of these responsibilities, including a life-long commitment to their wife. Maybe cheating with a new woman is exciting in that way because of the risk, danger, and ethical questions of it all, until the consequences hit. Most women don't marry to have a stranglehold on a man's income. If they get child support after a divorce, that just goes to support THEIR prized child-- a new, young human life-- in his or her growth and development. It's a good cause, isn't it? No, life isn't fair. But that doesn't mean you embrace it. You fight it. Your right... I don't believe most women intend to marry just to take money, but once a divorce starts it doesn't matter what the original intention is... 7/10 end up the same way, going for blood. I'm down with child support, but just handing mom a blank check is retarded. I should agree to pay certain things in advance and be able to handle it myself. I should be able to buy clothes for them, and pay for school, and food... ect. Who checks to make sure the kids aren't sitting naked and starving in a pile of feces while Mom is getting lipo? CPS? Those guys are a joke! Overworked and stupid is a terrible combo, combined with paralyzing bureaucracy. As to why some American guys cheat. Some always cheat, nomatter what. Some get absolutely no sex at home, some think that they have fallen in love, some just want to feel younger, some want to feel free of responsibility... ect. What they all have in common is the fact that they are irresponsible Aholes and should be punished harshly.
Author GooseChaser Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 No, life isn't fair. But that doesn't mean you embrace it. You fight it. Your right... I don't believe most women intend to marry just to take money, but once a divorce starts it doesn't matter what the original intention is... 7/10 end up the same way, going for blood. I'm down with child support, but just handing mom a blank check is retarded. I should agree to pay certain things in advance and be able to handle it myself. I should be able to buy clothes for them, and pay for school, and food... ect. Who checks to make sure the kids aren't sitting naked and starving in a pile of feces while Mom is getting lipo? CPS? Those guys are a joke! Overworked and stupid is a terrible combo, combined with paralyzing bureaucracy. As to why some American guys cheat. Some always cheat, nomatter what. Some get absolutely no sex at home, some think that they have fallen in love, some just want to feel younger, some want to feel free of responsibility... ect. What they all have in common is the fact that they are irresponsible Aholes and should be punished harshly. Solution: a pre-nup agreement!
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Personally, I may be earning a high income someday, and I would love to use that income to help support my husband if he wanted to make a career in doing something he loved (ie. music, comedy), rather than whatever paid the most money. Sounds good, but it's like communism... only works on paper. What happens when his career doesn't pan out and he winds up settling for a low end job? We all take risks, and we do that because we think what we would gain from it-- love, cash, a family-- is worth it. and what are you risking? There are MANY women who make more money than their men. Me, for example. I earned more than my ex. Hence, he only pays 41% of the financial responsibility for our son. I don't know any successful marriages where the woman makes more. I know one guy who's now a stay at home dad and he just puts up with his wife cheating on him because he doesn't want to lose his kids.
fltc Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Now... I can already hear the cries of "women cheat too", and that's a valid point, but women in the U.S. cheat at much lower rates than men. That's a very disputed statistic, some feel otherwise and that women are just better at hiding it. NOTE: One poll showed that 70% of married women answered "Yes" when asked, "Would you cheat if you were absolutely sure you wouldn't be caught?"
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Solution: a pre-nup agreement! Ok... start a new thread. "Prenup - How do you feel about signing one?" I have a feeling it will be eye opening for you. About 60% of women will just spit in your face.
donnamaybe Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 That's a very disputed statistic, some feel otherwise and that women are just better at hiding it. NOTE: One poll showed that 70% of married women answered "Yes" when asked, "Would you cheat if you were absolutely sure you wouldn't be caught?" "Feeling" something does NOT a statistic make.
donnamaybe Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Ok... start a new thread. "Prenup - How do you feel about signing one?" I have a feeling it will be eye opening for you. About 60% of women will just spit in your face.Ha! It's the only thing that saved my retirement fund!
denise_xo Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 I don't know any successful marriages where the woman makes more. I know several.
donnamaybe Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Someone's just a woman hater and can't STAND having his BS pointed out to him. Successful me! Yup! Happy, HAPPY gal with a GOOD man who I NEVER cheat on, and a son doing well in school who I NEVER get bad reports about!
Author GooseChaser Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 Sounds good, but it's like communism... only works on paper. What happens when his career doesn't pan out and he winds up settling for a low end job? If I made a reasonable amount of money, we would manage. and what are you risking? As a woman? Well... I guess time, and also putting my heart on the line.
Author GooseChaser Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 Ok... start a new thread. "Prenup - How do you feel about signing one?" I have a feeling it will be eye opening for you. About 60% of women will just spit in your face. Do women really hate the idea so much? I wouldn't mind signing one, myself. I guess you just have to hope your partner sees them favorably. It doesn't matter if the majority of women dislike them if YOUR woman doesn't mind signing one.
denise_xo Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Someone's just a woman hater and can't STAND having his BS pointed out to him. Successful me! Yup! Happy, HAPPY gal with a GOOD man who I NEVER cheat on, and a son doing well in school who I NEVER get bad reports about! Oh come on, Donna, you're clearly lying. You are actually cheating, you're just not telling us. You're a woman, after all. If you're not cheating, you're probably withholding sex or something...
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Ok... lets say 65% of men in America are worthless as husbands and fathers. I think that is a fair number. So that leaves 35% as quality. Now... I just need some kind of test to differentiate the two
donnamaybe Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Oh come on, Donna, you're clearly lying. You are actually cheating, you're just not telling us. You're a woman, after all. If you're not cheating, you're probably withholding sex or something...Okay, okay. You caught me. I'm actually a big cheating, lying bee-yotch who has moved her man into her house just to make him slave, slave away while I fritter my time away in the bed of one man after another, leaving him with nothing. NOTHING I TELLS YA!!!
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