HONESTLY: what criteria for hot and ugly?

[confused192]

OH...how could I forget?! Intelligence. Brains are super sexy. Man or woman, doesn't matter.

[Green]

OH...how could I forget?! Intelligence. Brains are super sexy. Man or woman, doesn't matter.

 

For me a woman doesn't have to funny but have a good sense of humor. That includes laughing at toilet humor.

[confused192]

For me a woman doesn't have to funny but have a good sense of humor. That includes laughing at toilet humor.

 

Toilet humor is great. Innappropriate humor is the best.

[Green]

Toilet humor is great. Innappropriate humor is the best.

 

haha so true. You also need a gf who can enjoy the random crap on the net

 

I think I'll send this to her now lol

[MrNate]

I say it always should fall on the way a person looks in the very begining... but from the moment you start talking to a woman she can either make herself hotter or cancel out that hotness by being crazy or something

 

Naturally. But since she's just asking what makes a girl hot, I was just letting her know what's up.

 

Because heck, even bitchy males/females are still considered hot.

[Feelin Frisky]

It doesn't occur to me to brand someone as "ugly". Such a female is simply transparent, like other men. They don't register on my sexometer. There is also a thing called "sexy-ugly"--a person of the opposite sex who has what are considered usually some ugly traits but their overall package is seductive and alluring. Hottness is sexometer red zone. The needle just goes critical the second us fellas, or at least me, see someone with the goods.

[MrNate]

No worries Mr Nate.

 

Leigh met a guy at her gym who flat out told her she was hot and still, she worried that she wasn't hot enough. That's why I'm focused on trying to get her to stop focusing so much on her looks and start enjoying flirting with men.

 

I'm speaking from personal experience in saying that once I changed my own attitude, I suddenly got a lot more guys telling me I was hot.

 

I used to worry, like Leigh, that maybe I wasn't attractive enough to approach guys. Like guys would be offended or something if I flirted with them. I would therefore be stand-offish, remote, too focused on myself to enjoy myself when I met cute guys.

 

Then at one point I stopped caring about whether or not I had the looks and started accepting that I don't have to be Kim Kardashian to flirt with guys. I wasn't flirting with George Clooney was I?

 

I realized guys love attention from women, be they average looking or bona fide hot. That's when guys started telling me I was hot. So there is something to how you project yourself. Attitude does play a part in women realizing that they are hot. Right now it sounds like Leigh is trying to figure out how to put what she knows she has, a hot physique, into flirting practice. Sounds to me like she wants to start putting herself out there but is struggling to get over the hurdle of "Am I hot enough?". Hence my advice. Become approachable and you will realize that yes, you are hot enough.

 

It's hard to explain. It's the difference between talking to someone who is insecure and talking to someone who is confident and therefore won't treat the conversation as being directly linked to their sense of self-worth. I think a lot of young girls in their twenties struggle to understand the difference. They're so caught up in getting the right look that they don't realize attracting a guy is not all about physique. You say yourself, there's a difference between being physically hot and being an attractive partner. These physically hot girls likely get approached by a ton of guys, but that doesn't mean the guy will stick around for a make out session. Making out is so much more enticing when you've been laughing all night.

 

It sounds, from this thread and others, like Leigh has every physical trait that makes a woman hot and all she is missing is that come-hither smile, know what I mean? The elusive 5% you mentioned.

 

 

The bonus is that as Leigh goes out into the world and starts enjoying flirting with men, men will also get an ego boost. Here's a girl who's not only hot, she's confident, outgoing and approachable.

 

Most women won't have a problem attracting a male. The bolder ones ususally get more than the not so bold ones. This is true, and Leigh87 probably doesn't have an issue, but I think she has enough going for her to be considered hot.

 

But since she asked what makes a girl 'hot', well, as I said, it mostly falls on physical features.

[MrNate]

It's interesting to see the woman's perspective of what she thinks a man thinks is hot.

 

Anyhow, like Nate, I agree that what's hot is 95%+ physical attributes and 5% or less about attitude. Most guys judge a woman as hot or not without knowing the first thing about them other than what they look like.

 

It really is man. I know women with amazing personalities. Would they be fun to be around, maybe go on a date with? Sure. Are they hot? Nope.

[Green]

haha so true. You also need a gf who can enjoy the random crap on the net

 

I think I'll send this to her now lol

 

She one upped me and sent me this video

[jamesum]

haha so true. You also need a gf who can enjoy the random crap on the net

 

I think I'll send this to her now lol

That cat is no pussy indeed.

[Crazy Magnet]

As a woman, I don't think personality has anything to do with the gut "hot or not" reaction from men. My friendly and outgoing demeanor might land me the date, but it's not going to make any man break his neck to get a look at me walking down the street.

[somedude81]

I am very much in the process of finding out if I AM hot or not. I

Upload a full body picture. You can black out the eyes if you want to remain anonymous.

 

As for what the criteria are, here's a humorous read. BTW I don't agree with their 10 being a 10.

 

Anything below a 5 and it starts to become a horror movie.

[Knittress]

I hate that 'Us vs. Them' link. Seriously.... it's like bikini model, bikini model, bikini model, OMG JABBA THE HUTT! Reality isn't like that, and while I'm definitely not an expert on what guys like... I don't think most of them are THAT narrow in their definitions of attractiveness.

At least, I hope.

[somedude81]

LOL! It's not that bad.

 

My scale really only goes up to 8. Meaning that 8-10 are just all classified as really hot. I don't try to figure out who's a 9.

 

6 & 7 are the cute average girls. They are the majority of girls, which I'm totally fine with. Usually all a girl needs to do to change from a 6 to a 7 is to wear flattering clothes and makeup. Some can even make the jump into really hot territory.

 

Girls 5 and below are usually overweight. I think it's very rare to actually see a thin girl with an unattractive face. Usually she only looks that way because she's unhealthy, which also includes drug use.

[Explorer]

Okay. Although I dislike how guys classify/view girls as " hot" or "ugly", it IS a very real way that guys think of girls.

 

So, I am wondering what YOUR criteria is for " hot" or "ugly".

 

Yes, this is a brutal thing to talk about, but I want to know nonetheless.

 

For example; For ugly, is crooked teeth and pimples enough to constitute ugly? And, for instance, what are the typical measurements for " hot" ( 115 - 120 lbs, between 5 '4 and 5 ' 6, straight teeth and blemish free skin, and flat stomach)

 

SO: I want to hear from you GUYS, what things are needed to classify as " ugly" and "hot".

 

I know different guys are attracted to different girls; but within your range, are there any set requirements needed? For instance, to be " hot", do you at least have a weight range?

 

Thanks! I am new to dating and I have no had a se life for over 4 years, and I want to know what guys really think.

 

I have a hard time thinking of a female that is hot but not tan. So, I think that has something to do with it

[Green]

Upload a full body picture. You can black out the eyes if you want to remain anonymous.

 

As for what the criteria are, here's a humorous read. BTW I don't agree with their 10 being a 10.

 

Anything below a 5 and it starts to become a horror movie.

 

damn your calling her out trying to get her to post a pic. If you were like this in real life you'd have no trouble.

 

But really whats the point of her putting up a pic if we can't see her face

[MrNate]

As a woman, I don't think personality has anything to do with the gut "hot or not" reaction from men. My friendly and outgoing demeanor might land me the date, but it's not going to make any man break his neck to get a look at me walking down the street.

 

Exactly. This is the point I'm trying to get across.

[MrNate]

LOL! It's not that bad.

 

My scale really only goes up to 8. Meaning that 8-10 are just all classified as really hot. I don't try to figure out who's a 9.

 

6 & 7 are the cute average girls. They are the majority of girls, which I'm totally fine with. Usually all a girl needs to do to change from a 6 to a 7 is to wear flattering clothes and makeup. Some can even make the jump into really hot territory.

 

Girls 5 and below are usually overweight. I think it's very rare to actually see a thin girl with an unattractive face. Usually she only looks that way because she's unhealthy, which also includes drug use.

 

7 is usually average for me.

 

8 is good looking

 

8.5+ is drop down gorgeous.

 

haha this is kinda off subject a bit, but I saw one of my friends like a page on facebook which is titled "big boobs don't count if you're fat". I had to laugh. :lmao:

[Green]

Girls who are 6,7 arn't worth the hastle they usualy think they are a 10. but girls who are 8 and 9's usualy think they are only a 6 or 7 so they are nicer.

 

Really I don't believe in number scales to subjective with out fully calobrating our numbers. I'd have to walk around crowded beachs, bars, and college campus's for atleast a week with MrNate if I wanted to get our ratings calobrated so they could mean anything to each other. With out calobration hot or not is the best answer but even that is very subjective.

[Untouchable_Fire]

I have a hard time thinking of a female that is hot but not tan. So, I think that has something to do with it

 

Darkskin girls are gross.

 

I'll pass on the George Hamilton style women. If you want a guy to think your pretty... skip the tanning bed.

[spookie]

but also I need to be realistic, and know WHAT sort of guy I can attract.

 

 

I'm sorry Leigh, I think you have good intentions, but this statement ruins your credibility that this is just harmless innocent talk to you.

 

The above is not reflective of a healthy attitude. It's irrational, because you have no way of knowing what guy will be into what, and it's also incredibly shallow. You're not giving yourself (or anyone else) enough credit believing in "leagues" like that.

 

This kind of conversation is pointless IMO anyway. You are already at your ideal weight, and you're taking care of yourself. There's not a lot you can do with the knowledge you'll gain about other people's perception of hotness.

 

Be the best (healthiest) you can be, and go after the guys that you like. I think that's the best anyone can do.

[Crazy Magnet]

I'm sorry Leigh, I think you have good intentions, but this statement ruins your credibility that this is just harmless innocent talk to you.

 

The above is not reflective of a healthy attitude. It's irrational, because you have no way of knowing what guy will be into what, and it's also incredibly shallow. You're not giving yourself (or anyone else) enough credit believing in "leagues" like that.

 

This kind of conversation is pointless IMO anyway. You are already at your ideal weight, and you're taking care of yourself. There's not a lot you can do with the knowledge you'll gain about other people's perception of hotness.

 

Be the best (healthiest) you can be, and go after the guys that you like. I think that's the best anyone can do.

 

It's perfectly normal to wonder if one is seen as "pretty" or not. I think about it from time to time and wonder what other people think. It doesn't impact what I think of myself (I'm the shiznit!) but it's a concept for consideration. Our goal in life is not to be the nastiest looking person we can, it's to look our best.

 

I know a many men find me attractive, others probably don't find me so attractive. Either way I'm going to go for who I personally think is hot.

 

I fail to see how wondering if you're pretty is shallow. It seems to be a normal function of human behavior to me.

[Eeyore79]

It doesn't occur to me to brand someone as "ugly". Such a female is simply transparent, like other men.

 

That happens to me with regard to the opposite sex - ugly men are just transparent. But I notice ugly women, and whisper about them to my friends: "OMG look at what she's wearing!" "She really needs to do something about that nose", etc. Funny how ugly people of the opposite sex are transparent but I really notice ugly people of the same sex!

[Feelin Frisky]

That happens to me with regard to the opposite sex - ugly men are just transparent. But I notice ugly women, and whisper about them to my friends: "OMG look at what she's wearing!" "She really needs to do something about that nose", etc. Funny how ugly people of the opposite sex are transparent but I really notice ugly people of the same sex!

 

You're allowed. I wasn't always the paragon of virtue I am now *cough* and sometimes seized on someone else's image if conspicuously unsightly. But I've learned to kick myself in the @ss and mind my own affairs. Thus I kind of see things that aren't pleasing as transparent--they don't register. Maybe it's the Prozac. I don't go around going "Jesus effen Christ did you get a load of that ghastly visage?" anymore. Now it's got to be the "elephant man" or Quazi Moto for me to do a double take.

[Eeyore79]

Girls do it through sign language

 

Girl 1: *nudges Girl 2, raises eyebrows and glances at other girl who is ugly or dressed shockingly*

 

Girl 2: *raises eyebrows in response*