AD1980 Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I know in America you need to be jacked or very large for a man (even fat) to get even an average looking girlfriend, but I've always been curious what women in other countries do. Most countries outside of America don't have as much musclemen walking around everywhere, most guys have a slender, toned build like myself. I lift weights to be physically stronger, but i still probably look small and women always make a big stink about it because I'm 5'7 and 135 lbs, but that's just how my genetics are. I can't wait to get out of this country. Its funny seeing people say just get ripped and six pack abs to get women when maybe 2% of the male population is "ripped" Women always complain about unfair standards put on them physically yet have no problem doign it to Men
somedude81 Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Taking intellect and personality out of it for a moment (which is huge, of course)... I would say if you're a guy shorter than maybe 5 ft 8, it is best for you to add mass, and it doesn't so much matter whether it is all muscle, some of it could be fat. Mostly, the goal is to give yourself more of a phsical presence. When a woman is held by a man, she likes the feeling that he is bigger and stronger than her. She doesn't want to work to conjure the feeling you're more masculine. If you're within fifteen pounds of her weight, it does take more imagination on her part to feel feminine. That's exactly how I feel. For some f'd up reason I'm a 5'6 white guy. When I was 120lbs I got zero attention from women. So now I'm trying to get as big as possible. The last thing I want is a woman to think I'm weak and unable to protect her. I've gotten my weight up to 164 but too much fat came along as well. So now I'm trying to gain more muscle and keep the fat under control. Then I need to lose the fat while keeping muscle loss to a minimum. Ugh, it's so much work And even then, once I reach my peak I could still be less attractive than some skinny 5'10 dude. Competing with a fit 5'10 dude will basically be impossible
dispatch3d Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I started a thread recently about how I've been dating only really good-looking, buff guys lately (random luck), and NONE of them has struck me as a guy looking for anything more than sex and fun. And hey, I'm thinking about it, even though that's not my style. But I'm not going to stop dating supercuties entirely. Maybe I will meet that rare gem, like yourself, who has a great brain and a great heart to go with the bangin' body. I mean, isn't that what we're all looking for? lol random luck. Haha pretty sure random luck= I'm not THAT shallow honest! Haha you likely are.
Yamaha Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I see way to many people who improve their bodies and then they walk around as if they went from a 4-5 to a 10, very unattractive. The bodybuilding industry promotes their wares the same way the PUA community tells guys it's not about looks, to sell their products. When you become a mirror-whore and are always checking out your reflection you have scummed to the hype and are on your way for a guest appearance on Jersy Shore.
Yamaha Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 It depends on what you want from your life. If you're not very deep, being able to have any woman you want and getting a lot of ego gratification is the only thing such jersey shore types want in life. It does depend on what you want in life. All I am saying is there is a balance in everything or you will lose your way and fall in the abyss called media.
Yamaha Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 powerlifters having one night stands with impossible to count amounts of women every month. Guys need to become real men and stop the concept that men must score with as many women as possible so other men will look up to them. Real men know it doesn't require the approval of others to define who you are. You know in your head and heart that you are meant to be more than a show stud. It requires a re-thinking of what a man is by men themselves.
MrNate Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Personally, I think a lot of times, guys really aren't honest with themselves. If we were, I think more of us would go after what we want. We know what this is, but for some reason or another, we choose not to embrace it. Over the past couple years, I've began to be straightforward with myself, acknowledging the various things I want. And because of this, I feel compelled to work my hardest to obtain them, because it'll bring satisfaction to my life. So now, I'm done complaining. I'm putting on my big boy shoes and getting my grown man on.
Ruby Slippers Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 lol random luck. Haha pretty sure random luck= I'm not THAT shallow honest! Haha you likely are. I go out with the men who ASK me out that I'm interested in. And lately, the only men I'm meeting who are asking me out are really cute, buff men. Hey, I'm not complaining. I evaluate them in the same way I evaluate any guy -- is there chemistry?, are we compatible in terms of interests, smarts, relationship approach?, and so on. If anything, I'm a little tougher on buff guys because I can't help assuming that they're less likely to be faithful and willing to make a real commitment. And intelligence is THE biggest turn-on for me, and the fact is that most of these guys are not that smart.
desertmoon Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 (edited) What matters PHYSICALLY? No big guts. Big guts make me think of the likelihood of heart disease. Beautiful, sincere smile. Mischievous eyes. clean, short nails.. Ass..Must have a nice round ass-nothing big...just nice ones that can hold jeans up right! Edited September 5, 2010 by desertmoon
Rorschach Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 Personally, I think a lot of times, guys really aren't honest with themselves. If we were, I think more of us would go after what we want. We know what this is, but for some reason or another, we choose not to embrace it. Over the past couple years, I've began to be straightforward with myself, acknowledging the various things I want. And because of this, I feel compelled to work my hardest to obtain them, because it'll bring satisfaction to my life. So now, I'm done complaining. I'm putting on my big boy shoes and getting my grown man on. Hear hear I know what I want in a relationship and I'm not willing to settle like I used to be, I just have to work at improving myself until what I want and what she wants line up
Author Mangomonkey Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 Even though some people get mad that muscular guys get all the girls. If you looked like this who wouldnt? http://www.hipstertravelguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/pirate_jack_sparrow.jpg
threebyfate Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 People aren't abs, height, weight, whatever you want to focus on. They're composites of body, head and heart. The composition of all three will define what's attractive to each individual.
Author Mangomonkey Posted September 5, 2010 Author Posted September 5, 2010 True but remember i said earlier. We talking about physically attractiveness alone right now. Now emotional connections
alexlakeman Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Personally being in the field of health & fitness... being very fit... etc etc.. i'd rather a semi-thick (non-excess flab) brunette with a cute face... glasses... killer smile and amazing personality to match... with intelligence and the ability to articulate. That is MY perfect, ideal, goddess of a woman. I've heard that 1-2 times that women think I look fine with my glasses.. I wear my contacts most of the time though.. One women did not like me with glasses, so I guess it's a matter of opinion. What matters PHYSICALLY? No big guts. Big guts make me think of the likelihood of heart disease. Beautiful, sincere smile. Mischievous eyes. clean, short nails.. Ass..Must have a nice round ass-nothing big...just nice ones that can hold jeans up right! Define big gut... I have a gut, but have no problems "typically" dating.. but I'm not hitting the beach or the pool until after we sleep together, lol... score some points ....
threebyfate Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 True but remember i said earlier. We talking about physically attractiveness alone right now. Now emotional connectionsUnderstood but attraction can't just be gauged by how hot his body is unless you're into one night stands. If a guy has a six pack and no brain, he's of less than no interest. I look at so many of the men in media and the first word that comes to mind is Bimbo.
desertmoon Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Define big gut... I have a gut, but have no problems "typically" dating.. but I'm not hitting the beach or the pool until after we sleep together, lol... score some points .... I am sure you do not mean YOU, as me...because I am ASIAN and I believe you think we are unattractive and inferior. A big gut for me is when you look down and you see your tummy instead of your knees. A big gut is when you see flab protruding on the sides.... btw, define "typically dating.
blackorchid Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 As long as they're healthy. I don't need big muscles. I like a pretty face and as far as everything else goes....as long as he's not chubby or sickly looking I'm cool with that. I would like a guy who plays sports or rides his bike to work/school as a form of exercise rather than "hitting the gym".
purplepixie Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I have to say, I find muscle men rather unattractive. In my experience, they tend to love themelves more than they could ever love me. My current partner is perfect, he isnt a muscle man nor a weakling. I know that he would and could do anything to protect me. & to top it off, he's not some airhead that loves his 'guns' more than he loves me.
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