360 pounds - given up!

[SpanksTheMonkey]

Another thing I just thought about is have yourself checked for anemia I found out I'm quite prone to it a few years back I had absolutely NO energy now I take a few iron tabs a week and I'm good to go!

 

Oh I also suffer from low blood sugar like I believe I saw you talking about before? that just means when I haven't eaten anything I start feeling light headed well Ive found I don't need sugar at those times just a simple snack.

 

Doesn't have to be overly surgery try having a sandwich or piece of fruit instead of a chocolate bar next time you might be surprised it works just as well.

 

My best advice don't bother with diets they wont work and will depress you even more most are just made up to make money! watch what you eat and start getting out and walking more.

 

No one here can tell you how to be motivated but I can tell you it feels a heck of allot better to be able to be active again then to be basically house ridden if that helps at all..

[kassy]

I hope you worked out today and enjoyed it!

 

Don't worry about tomorrow, and don't get caught up on what you did yesterday, you can only control the here and now, so just make sure today is a good day and tackle every day with that attitude.

[sb129]

I read a quote from Liz Hurley recently

 

"You have to want to fit into your skinny jeans MORE than you want to eat the chocolate".

 

Its my new motto.

 

I am doing weightwatchers to get back to my pre-pregnancy weight, and I was in TOTAL denial about my portion sizes and snacking, and I was using breastfeeding as an excuse.

 

Tracking food and portion sizes is the only way to go for me- and I have lost 7lb in the first month.

 

Taramere- IKWYM re: "indulgence days", its pretty easy to get to 3000+ calories if you eat out and have a few glasses of wine!

 

Since doing WW, I have been really surprised to find out how calorific some foods actually are.

[tman666]

Sussex:

 

As people have said, losing weight is not a pleasant experience, especially at first. It will take all the willpower you have to stay on track with eating clean foods, controlling your portions, and exercising every single day. I should add that without exercising, your weight loss goals will never be realized. Anyone that tells you different is either ignorant or dishonest.

 

At your current weight, even a little bit of slacking off in your diet and exercise habits is going to make a huge negative impact. The human body becomes more insulin sensitive the fatter you are, so you eating a piece of chocolate is not equal, physiologically, to a 120 lb person eating the same piece of chocolate.

 

From your posts, it seems to me that you've gotten in the habit of wanting to find excuses for everything. This is natural of course. It doesn't make you a bad person or anything. The bottom line is that change comes hard for everyone, but you've gotten into the routine of finding excuses. This routine needs to be broken.

 

To be honest, I don't think that you can do it alone. I think that for now, you need to set yourself up to be accountable to another person. I would find a motivated workout partner, hire a qualified trainer, and hire a nutritionist. This won't be cheap, but you need to start investing in your self now. At your age and weight, you're setting yourself up for an early death.

 

I wish you the best! Remember that results are the sum of the all the choices (little and big) that you make.

[hotgurl]

I also do WW. At my heaviest 182. my portion sizes were way out of wack. I lost 40 lbs on the plan.

 

Measure measure measure. At 300 lbs you sizes are way out of wack.

 

I love one of their motivational lines.

 

nothing tastes as good as thin feels. so true

[SydneyCarton]

Honestly, from what you describe in your initial post you sound like you could be the poster child for weight loss surgery. As others have pointed out, it isn't a magic cure. You still have to commit to making serious changes in your diet and exercise. The surgery will make it much, much easier for you to make those changes, however, since you will get full very quickly and won't have to deal with the ravenous hunger that seems to be your downfall.

 

If you're really serious about permanently changing what you eat and permanently increasing your activity level, then I think you owe it to yourself to utilize every effective tool available to you, since you clearly need all the help you can get.

[SydneyCarton]

 

The human body becomes more insulin sensitive the fatter you are

 

 

It's the other way around. Increased insulin resistance (i.e. decreased insulin sensitivity) is associated with increasing weight, and is almost certainly caused by it.

 

Contrary to what most people think, insulin resistance and high insulin levels are usually associated with a decreased (not increased) probability of future weight gain. When you think about it, this makes sense, given that it is well established that insulin resistance decreases dramatically with even fairly small amounts of weight loss. If insulin resistance and high insulin levels were a major cause of weight gain, then the more weight you lost the easier it would get to lose weight, and everybody knows that the opposite is really true.

[Sussexwoman]

Before responding to the posts, I just want to post this link for everyone to read. I've only just heard about this new site, will take a look at it myself soon.

http://www.why-low-carb-diets-work.com/

[Sussexwoman]

Honestly, from what you describe in your initial post you sound like you could be the poster child for weight loss surgery.

 

Thanks Syd.

 

The very thought of surgery terrifies me.

 

In order to get the surgery, because of British rules, I would have to convince the doctor that I was eager, if not desperate, to have it, with no reservations whatsoever. Once they see my ambivalence they won't let me have it, anyway.

 

I also have to demonstrate a total commitment to eating a tiny amount of food at each meal. I cannot give that commitment and I cannot swear that I'd never eat chocolate.

 

Lastly, and this is a bit stupid, as you will see, every candidate for surgery HAS TO demonstrate that they can lose 10% of their body weight by diet alone, before the surgery.

 

Well, if I could lose 36 pounds, I would not need the surgery would I?

 

DUH!

[hotgurl]

Thanks Syd.

 

The very thought of surgery terrifies me.

 

In order to get the surgery, because of British rules, I would have to convince the doctor that I was eager, if not desperate, to have it, with no reservations whatsoever. Once they see my ambivalence they won't let me have it, anyway.

 

I also have to demonstrate a total commitment to eating a tiny amount of food at each meal. I cannot give that commitment and I cannot swear that I'd never eat chocolate.

 

Lastly, and this is a bit stupid, as you will see, every candidate for surgery HAS TO demonstrate that they can lose 10% of their body weight by diet alone, before the surgery.

 

Well, if I could lose 36 pounds, I would not need the surgery would I?

 

DUH!

 

But I see the reasons. Because if you can't maintain weight loss after surgery you will just gain back all the weight and it will be more dangerous due to the stomach stapeling.

 

I have a friend who got gastric bypass in a year all the weight came back on.

[Sussexwoman]

high insulin levels are usually associated with a decreased (not increased) probability of future weight gain.

 

That is simply not true, Sydney.

 

A few years ago my best friend's body stopped making insulin. She immediately started to lose weight, though enjoying as much food and alcohol as she wanted. She even said to me in jest, it seems that the more I eat the more weight I lose. Her weight dropped from 18 stones to 11 stones in about 3 months. Then she fell into a coma and was admitted to hospital near to death. She recovered and I was with her when she was seen by the senior consultant endocrinologist for our county. He said: "In the absence of insulin in the body, it is impossible to store any food as weight on the body."

 

Any rise in blood sugar causes an insulin reaction (i.e. a large burst of insulin into the bloodstream). Insulin, which is a "storage" hormone, signals the body to remove excess glucose (blood sugar) from the blood and store it first in muscle cells. Any excess is converted to fat (triglycerides) for storage in adipose (fat) cells in your chin, upper arms, belly, hips, buttocks, thighs and elsewhere. Therefore, eating high-glycemic foods causes your body to store excess carbohydrates as fat and not use them for energy. That's why most low fat, high carbohydrate diets fail - even though calories may be kept to an uncomfortable minimum.

[Sussexwoman]

But I see the reasons. Because if you can't maintain weight loss after surgery you will just gain back all the weight and it will be more dangerous due to the stomach stapeling.

 

I have a friend who got gastric bypass in a year all the weight came back on.

 

Yes I can see the logic. On the other hand, I can also see that if I can lose 36lbs without surgery, then I don't need the surgery.

 

The famous Atkineer Jimmy Moore said he didn't lose 180 pounds, he lost "10 pounds 18 times".

 

If I could crack 36 pounds, then I could simply carry on and lose 36 pounds five times! That is also 180 pounds, and would put me at a very good weight.

 

I am REALLY SHOCKED about your friend. It's because of people like her that British doctors make candidates for surgery PROVE that they are totally committed.

 

Find out about Jimmy Moore here:

 

http://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645

Edited May 11, 2010 by Sussexwoman

[Sussexwoman]

Kassy!

 

"I hope you worked out today and enjoyed it!"

 

Ashamed to say, I did not go. I don't know why, I just somehow could not get out of the door. But I was pleased with my eating yesterday. For brunch I had a salad with two pots of prawn cocktail that is 500 calories; and for dinner I had two small chicken legs, another 500 calories. Total for the day about 1,000 calories. I was pleased to get through a day with NO chocolate! I did get a bit of a workout though because I spent the whole evening having sex and did my share of wriggling and thrusting LOLOLOLOL so I must have burned a few cals that way!

 

On Sunday I had salad with two pots of prawn cocktail that is 500 calories and for late lunch I had 4oz cold pork plus some crackling that was 700 calories, then I weakened and ate a bar of chocolate that was 503 calories and then in the evening I had some fruit (melon, mango and pineapple) with cheese, another 500 calories, then the sugar in the fruit gave me a horrible hypo so I won't buy any more of it. Total calories for the day, 2,200.

 

Today so far... brunch was a bowl of mixed salad with two chicken breasts olive oil wine vinegar and a little mayo. About 600 calories. Then I went crazy and bought on impulse a bar of chocolate 503 calories. So that is 1,100 so far. All I have in the fridge for dinner is about 9oz of lean roast pork. If I eat that, it's 366 calories. Total for day = about 1500.

 

I actually do not believe any longer in calorie theory, I think it's been thoroughly discredited. I only mention the calorie count to show those who think I eat 4,000-5,000 a day that they are talking utter bunkum.

 

I am really disgusted at myself for buying chocolate again today. I didn't intend to. I went out to post a letter, and the postbox is next to a newsagent. I should have taken just the door key and not my purse. Mind you, the owners are friends of mine and would let me owe them the money so even that isn't foolproof.

[hotgurl]

Kassy!

 

"I hope you worked out today and enjoyed it!"

 

Ashamed to say, I did not go. I don't know why, I just somehow could not get out of the door. But I was pleased with my eating yesterday. For brunch I had a salad with two pots of prawn cocktail that is 500 calories; and for dinner I had two small chicken legs, another 500 calories. Total for the day about 1,000 calories. I was pleased to get through a day with NO chocolate! I did get a bit of a workout though because I spent the whole evening having sex and did my share of wriggling and thrusting LOLOLOLOL so I must have burned a few cals that way!

 

On Sunday I had salad with two pots of prawn cocktail that is 500 calories and for late lunch I had 4oz cold pork plus some crackling that was 700 calories, then I weakened and ate a bar of chocolate that was 503 calories and then in the evening I had some fruit (melon, mango and pineapple) with cheese, another 500 calories, then the sugar in the fruit gave me a horrible hypo so I won't buy any more of it. Total calories for the day, 2,200.

 

Today so far... brunch was a bowl of mixed salad with two chicken breasts olive oil wine vinegar and a little mayo. About 600 calories. Then I went crazy and bought on impulse a bar of chocolate 503 calories. So that is 1,100 so far. All I have in the fridge for dinner is about 9oz of lean roast pork. If I eat that, it's 366 calories. Total for day = about 1500.

 

I actually do not believe any longer in calorie theory, I think it's been thoroughly discredited. I only mention the calorie count to show those who think I eat 4,000-5,000 a day that they are talking utter bunkum.

 

I am really disgusted at myself for buying chocolate again today. I didn't intend to. I went out to post a letter, and the postbox is next to a newsagent. I should have taken just the door key and not my purse. Mind you, the owners are friends of mine and would let me owe them the money so even that isn't foolproof.

 

9oz of pork two chicken breasts! that is a lot of food. 1 serving size of meat is 3oz. You are only supposed to have 2-3 serving of meat a day. So far you have had four without the pork. Plus the pork loin is about 500 calories not 366.

 

you should try to have beans, egg, legumes and add more veggies.

 

for example.

yesterday I ate.

1 egg omleete with broccoli and 1oz low fat cheese.

1 6oz container of yogurt

an apple

lentil soup and a salad.

2 cheese stick

1/2 chicken breast a healthy portion of zuccuni.

 

obviously you can't cut down so much but,. you def should cut down on the meat

[Sussexwoman]

Hello Hotgurl!

 

"a serving size of meat is 3oz" -- who says?

 

"You are only supposed to have 2-3 serving of meat a day." -- who says?

 

"Plus the pork loin is about 500 calories not 366." -- I looked it up, 122 per 3oz. Times 3 = 366. Anyway, the difference between 366 and 500 is only 124, making it just over 1600 aclories for today -- hardly the difference between maintaining my 360 pounds and losing weight. Beside which, calorie theory has been discredited.

 

"you should try to have beans, egg, legumes and add more veggies."

 

It depends WHICH "diet" you are following! There isn't just one type of reducing diet. Jimmy Moore and millions of others have lost half their body weight by avoiding beans and legumes and fruit.

 

"you def should cut down on the meat"

 

But I don't see any convincing arguments to show that eating beans, legumes, cheese, veggies, fruit is any better than eating meat.

 

Have you ever read this? http://zeroinginonhealth.com/

 

Last year I lost weight for the first time in my whole 33 years of dieting. Yes I finally found something that actually worked -- it was a fat and meat ONLY diet. I ate as much as I wanted, which was about 16oz a day. My TG were great, BP went down, HDL up, LDL down, carpal tunnel cleared up by itself (had to cancel appt with specialist - yay!), and my sleep apnoea disappeared (had to cancel appt with sleep clinic - yay!)

 

My problem with it is, I fell off the wagon and cannot yet get back onto it. I dearly wish I could, and I am trying to, by gradually working my way into eating more meat and less of anything else, and no chocolate of course.

 

This lady was the same as me 360 and is now 224

 

http://forum.zeroinginonhealth.com/showthread.php?tid=2106

 

scroll down to see her photos

 

I will keep on trying!

Edited May 11, 2010 by Sussexwoman

[hotgurl]

Hello Hotgurl!

 

"a serving size of meat is 3oz" -- who says?

 

"You are only supposed to have 2-3 serving of meat a day." -- who says?

 

"Plus the pork loin is about 500 calories not 366." -- I looked it up, 122 per 3oz. Times 3 = 366. Anyway, the difference between 366 and 500 is only 124, making it just over 1600 aclories for today -- hardly the difference between maintaining my 360 pounds and losing weight. Beside which, calorie theory has been discredited.

 

"you should try to have beans, egg, legumes and add more veggies."

 

It depends WHICH "diet" you are following! There isn't just one type of reducing diet. Jimmy Moore and millions of others have lost half their body weight by avoiding beans and legumes and fruit.

 

"you def should cut down on the meat"

 

But I don't see any convincing arguments to show that eating beans, legumes, cheese, veggies, fruit is any better than eating meat.

 

Have you ever read this? http://zeroinginonhealth.com/

 

Last year I lost weight for the first time in my whole 33 years of dieting. Yes I finally found something that actually worked -- it was a fat and meat ONLY diet. I ate as much as I wanted, which was about 16oz a day. My TG were great, BP went down, HDL up, LDL down, carpal tunnel cleared up by itself (had to cancel appt with specialist - yay!), and my sleep apnoea disappeared (had to cancel appt with sleep clinic - yay!)

 

My problem with it is, I fell off the wagon and cannot yet get back onto it. I dearly wish I could, and I am trying to, by gradually working my way into eating more meat and less of anything else, and no chocolate of course.

 

This lady was the same as me 360 and is now 224

 

http://forum.zeroinginonhealth.com/showthread.php?tid=2106

 

scroll down to see her photos

 

I will keep on trying!

 

 

THE USDA. That to me sounds like a lot of meat and food. Personally I like plans that emphasis balanced eating not Atkins because I don't feel they are maintainable long term.

 

I know you have insulin issues so you will be more limited but they are gylcemic indexes so you can keep track of the sugar in your foods.

[Belle Vie]

Ashamed to say, I did not go. I don't know why, I just somehow could not get out of the door.

I am really disgusted at myself for buying chocolate again today.

 

SW, you are too funny! You just need to accept that you're just not "there" yet. In fact, you're allowing your virtue with your food to cloud your judgment about your exercise. Forget the chocolate....you could have that chocolate bar without any guilt whatsoever if you'd focus on your exercise instead.

 

In reading your thread, I think a lot about myself six years ago, when I was overweight and feeling awful. I hit 160 (I know that sounds minimal to you, but to me, it looked and felt horrible...on my body, all of it collects around my middle, so I look like a beach ball), and I felt sick, and bloated, and depressed. I got up one day and I couldn't fit into any of my clothes without unbuttoning the button. First, I sat down on my bed and cried. Next, I told myself "enough is enough."

 

I knew where that 160 was headed. My mother, my aunt, my uncle all weigh above 200 pounds. My uncle is closer to 300. It's in my genes.

 

At that moment, I could not stay in that body one second longer. I got up and went for a walk that very moment. There was no "tomorrow, I'll..." I was done with it. I started out with walking just 1 mile three times a week--it was so hard to do, because I didn't "feel" like it. But I knew my limits, and it involved my clothes not fitting, not walking a stupid mile.

 

I felt so good after a few weeks, that I started walking 6x a week. Then I added yoga....and so it went. I lost 30 pounds in 8 months, and I felt so much better. I knew that I'd rather go through the discomfort of exercise and drinking skim milk instead of whole, etc., than go through that moment crying on my bed ever again. And I have my treats now and then. I can go out and have a great meal just like anyone else. Only I know it's a treat, not my lifestyle.

 

You're not there yet. You're happy. You don't LIKE your weight. You WISH you were thinner. But you don't FEEL it yet, in your heart and mind. You're not in that poing where you cannot exist another moment--another second even--in the body and state that you're in.

 

If you get to that moment, you'll know. Because first you'll cry, and in the next moment, you'll be in the pool or on your way to the ocean. You won't be saying "tomorrow" anymore.

 

Good luck! And thank you....you HAVE inspired me to keep going. Because I know how hard it was to begin--and your story reminds me of how much it took to get where I am today and how good it feels to be on the other side.

 

It's great over here, SW. I hope someday you'll make the journey and join me!

[kassy]

That diet is quite extreme, each to their own I guess.

 

Do you eat vegies? Do you not enjoy vegies?

 

How about trying to make exercise the first thing you do in the morning, just get out of bed, grab a quick snack and then get out the door. I find this helps me when I am struggling with motivation, otherwise it is too easy to put it off.

[Jilly Bean]

Well, if I could lose 36 pounds, I would not need the surgery would I?

 

DUH!

 

Yeah, you would. You're about 250 pounds overweight. Pretty much, you are carrying the weight of THREE people, on the body of ONE.

[Sussexwoman]

Belle Vie

 

"You just need to accept that you're just not "there" yet."

 

I am genuinely scared of gaining any more weight. I could lose everything if I became bedbound.

 

"First, I sat down on my bed and cried. Next, I told myself "enough is enough."

 

I dearly WISH I could reach that enough is enough moment!

 

"Good luck! And thank you....you HAVE inspired me to keep going."

 

Well something good came of this then LOL

 

Thank you!

==============================

Kassy

 

"That diet is quite extreme, each to their own I guess."

 

The point is, there isn't just ONE way to lose weight. Some people do it low carb and some do it low fat and some do it no carbs. It depends on an individual's metabolism.

 

The reason I veer towards meat and fat rather than fruit and veg is because my body is telling me to.

 

Fruit make my BS crash, wheat and grains make me feel sick, low fat eating makes me ravenously hungry the whole time so I eat 3 times as much in volume.

 

"Do you eat vegies? Do you not enjoy vegies?"

 

I love veggies. I can eat a bowl of Brussels sprouts with butter all on their own. I also adore shredded red cabbage with wine vinegar and mayo. I love tomatoes, olives, sweetcorn, yum. But I am trying to give them up and go zero carb.

 

"How about trying to make exercise the first thing you do in the morning, just get out of bed, grab a quick snack and then get out the door."

 

Well this is the plan I have, and the plan that I did for several years until recently. I get up, get into swimming costume, make a cup of fruit tea then phone a cab. Drink tea while waiting for cab to the pool, do an hour, then back by cab or walk back one mile. Then it's about 9am or 10am and I have brunch. Then a second meal about 5pm, and that's my food for the day. I never eat anything before swimming as it always repeats on me in the water, when I kick up my legs etc and compress my huge stomach I suppose :-)

[Sussexwoman]

Yeah, you would. You're about 250 pounds overweight. Pretty much, you are carrying the weight of THREE people, on the body of ONE.

 

Jilly Bean you are a silly jilly, you didn't read my next posting -- you lose the 36lb, then do it five times more the same thing again, that makes 180 DUH!

[scatterd]

Bless your heart it seems you are trying but having a hard time.I lost 43 lbs about 3 yrs ago I have been thin most of my life but had female problems and gained it seemed as though it would not come off.:lmao:I got a weight watchers print out of what to eat and took on moto cross.At first my stomach hurt so bad but i kept with it.You need hard:bunny: workout to make a difference work till you sweat hard and you will get use to it if you keep it up.Do you have friends that would do it with you?Chocolate is wonderful:love: I know but try hard to not eat it.I hope you can beat this but weight or not you are loved.Check your thyroid talk to your doctor they have some kind of pill that helps and does not harm you.Keep at it you will loose it good luck;)

[Sussexwoman]

Doesn't have to be overly surgery try having a sandwich or piece of fruit instead of a chocolate bar next time you might be surprised it works just as well.

 

Sandwich - I do not eat wheat.

 

Fruit - fruit gives me hypos.

 

 

[Tried fruit again on Sunday night, was ill for hours then had the most explosive diarrheoa!]

 

Scatterd

 

"Do you have friends that would do it with you?"

 

None of my friends take any exercise at all. My boyfriend is 52 never been for a run, never seen the inside of a gym, does not even own a pair of trainers, eats and drinks whatever he likes, eats out a lot, and is thin.

 

"Check your thyroid talk to your doctor they have some kind of pill that helps and does not harm you.Keep at it you will loose it good luck"

 

Thanks. They won't check my thyroid cos that costs money and I have none of the symptoms. My doctor is so fat his stomach sits on his legs as he sits down opposite me. He said if I ever find a diet that works I must share it with him. They have offered me pills with terrible side effects and I am scared.

Edited May 11, 2010 by Sussexwoman

[just_some_guy]

I am speaking as the husband of a woman who reached the same weight you're at.

 

At this point, you need professional help, medical, psychological and probably a 12-step program too. It's our brains, specifically our thinking and feelings that make us overweight. You can search over you bloodwork and endocrine system and it will almost certainly come up with little other than the effects of obesity.

 

It is our brains, more specifically our thinking and feelings that cause us to become obese. That's good and bad, because thankfully, it can be overcome. The bad part is dealing with the underlying issues can be extremely difficult to confront and overcome. In many ways, bariatric surgery is easier. But the underlying emotional and mental issues are going to remain unless they are confronted and dealt with.

 

If you can, look for an OA (overeaters anonymous) or other 12-step program in your area. You will also need to push for having your needs met by your health care system wherever you live. Governments and insurance companies can be very difficult, but in the end, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

 

Your perception of what and how much you eat is probably not in keeping with what you are actually consuming. I have done this myself, just not realizing the little bits of this and that consumed through the day. In reality, those little bits of this and that add up to far more calories than we think.

 

Overeating is frequently a self-soothing act. Eating is pleasurable, but it becomes a problem when the need for the pleasure exceeds the need to fuel the body. The pleasing feelings of eating only temporarily soothe whatever underlying pain or emptiness that we're trying to deal with. Just like someone in chronic physical pain who needs morphine, sooner or later the hurt can no longer be soothed by the drug and continued long term use becomes ineffective and destructive. For some people, it is alcohol or drugs, sometimes it is bad relationships, for others it is food or a combination of all of them.

 

When you start to address the underlying emotional pain, the physical aspects of losing weight and caring for your body will get better and begin to fall into place.

[Sussexwoman]

just_some_guy

 

Thank you for your time & trouble.

 

"At this point, you need professional help, medical, psychological and probably a 12-step program too."

 

I think you are right. I looked into OA, there is a meeting 15 miles away (not easy, since I do not drive) but I was completely put of because it's all about putting ourselves in the hands of God and I am a fervent atheist.

 

"The bad part is dealing with the underlying issues can be extremely difficult to confront and overcome."

 

I know I had a terrible childhood but I am very happy to talk about it. I don't mind a bit of pain.

 

"Your perception of what and how much you eat is probably not in keeping with what you are actually consuming."

 

I do object to basically being called a liar. I have a science degree, I am not an idiot. I have scales and I can keep track of calories and amounts.

 

"those little bits of this and that add up to far more calories than we think."

 

But I am not a snacker or a picker. I have two big meals, and on a bad day I have ONE bar of chocolate, but that is IT I don't snack on anything. And all my drinks are calorie free (water and fruit infusions).

 

"Overeating is frequently a self-soothing act. Eating is pleasurable, but it becomes a problem when the need for the pleasure exceeds the need to fuel the body."

 

I agree that on many days I simply eat too much, and yes it is an immense pleasure to me. I adore that full-up feeling, so much so that I worry that I will NEVER be able to stop.

 

"The pleasing feelings of eating only temporarily soothe whatever underlying pain or emptiness that we're trying to deal with."

 

Yes I understand. I have quite a happy life now but, as I said, a horrible, insecure childhood full of chaos and violence.

 

"For some people, it is alcohol or drugs, sometimes it is bad relationships"

For me it's a full-up feeling of comfort, and a love of chocolate.

 

"when you start to address the underlying emotional pain, the physical aspects of losing weight and caring for your body will get better and begin to fall into place."

 

I had expensive, professional, qualified counselling for weight loss problems, we went all through my childhood etc. At the end of 13 months the counsellor ended our weekly sessions saying she wasn't getting anywhere with me, I was a hopeless case. She was particularly annoyed that I was still eating chocolate. She said I could come back once I had given up the chocolate.

 

After that I had hypnosis. That also cost me a lot of money, and at the end of ten weeks it still had no effect, and I could not afford to keep on with it.