alphamale Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 "Juniper, what did your guy say when you told him what you thought of that kind of porn? And did you say it affects your perception of him?" When I asked him if he was into this kind of porn, he just kind of grinned and said, "Maybe." That was his answer, so I took it mean, "Yes." I just told him if he thought of trying those things with me he would be picking his teeth up off the floor. He didn't say anything really, just looked at me kind of funny. As far as my perception of him. Yeah I guess it has changed. Like I said he is sweet, and good to me, but so were lots of serial killers too! one cannot judge a man solely upon the type of porn he does or does not watch... Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Thanks! Yeah, I'm trying to think of a good excuse to get out of this relationship now. I guess telling the truth would work huh? I mean its only been a few months, so its not like I have lots of history, or time and energy into the guy or the relationship. I do like him, he is sweet, and helpful and is good to me etc. BUT, I don't know, what do I say? "I think we might need to cut things off because you like this weirdo porn?" I guess there is no correct way to go about it. Just do it.A very touchy situation and one I'd be cautious about approaching, in a direct way, since I'd be concerned about his reaction based on his views of women. This would be one of those few times I would recommend you avoid the reason(s) why and do one of those "It's not you, it's me" break up lines. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Trial is going to be shocked but I agree with her on that. one cannot judge a man solely upon the type of porn he does or does not watch... Sure you can. I think the type of porn a man likes says alot about him actually. I think alot of women would agree. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Juniper22 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) one cannot judge a man solely upon the type of porn he does or does not watch... I understand what you mean alpha, however it still makes me wonder. I have read before where there have been killers who were heavily into porn, all types, but especially fond of porn that had to do with very extreme awful things. And yes while they obviously had a screw loose to begin with, it makes you wonder if the screw they had loose, was just fueled by this kind of porn and threw them over the edge. And NO I'm not saying the porn made them do it, I'm just saying it was something that must appealed to them in a strange way from your normal type of porn. I bet if you googled serial killers and porn, its no telling what you would come up with. Alot of times, porn plays a big role in those types of killings. NOT always, but alot of times. Edited October 7, 2009 by Juniper22 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Juniper22 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 A very touchy situation and one I'd be cautious about approaching, in a direct way, since I'd be concerned about his reaction based on his views of women. This would be one of those few times I would recommend you avoid the reason(s) why and do one of those "It's not you, it's me" break up lines. Thanks! That might be what I do....I'll just tell him I think maybe things are moving kind of fast and we need to take a break. Hopefully he wont go off the deep end. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I understand what you mean alpha, however it still makes me wonder. I have read before where there have been killers who were heavily into porn, all types, but especially fond of porn that had to do with very extreme awful things. And yes while they obviously had a screw loose to begin with, it makes you wonder if the screw they had loose, was just fueled by this kind of porn and threw them over the edge. And NO I'm not saying the porn made them do it, I'm just saying it was something that must appealed to them in a strange way from your normal type of porn. I bet if you googled serial killers and porn, its no telling what you would come up with. Alot of times, porn plays a big role in those types of killings. NOT always, but alot of times. well then why don't we also get rid of all the sex and violence in the regular mainstream media? Link to post Share on other sites
Teacher's Pet Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I like some rough sex, some butt smacking I love you. -TP so, where in jersey? hehe Link to post Share on other sites
Author Juniper22 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 well then why don't we also get rid of all the sex and violence in the regular mainstream media? Oh alpha I wave the white flag to you hun. I'm sorry you do not understand where I'm coming from with how I feel on this. I never said that I hated porn or wanted it to be done away completely with,but yes, certain types are disturbing, that's really what my post is about. I know nothing else to say to you on the matter. Clearly I see what kinds you are interested in, it says alot. Good day to you. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 but yes, certain types are disturbing, that's really what my post is about. then don't watch it and forbid its presence in your household Link to post Share on other sites
Author Juniper22 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 then don't watch it and forbid its presence in your household It wasn't in my household, and you're right it wont be, nor will I view that kind that the guy I was seeing showed me. Problem solved, wow how easy was that. Thank alpha you da man. Link to post Share on other sites
JackJack Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Trial is going to be shocked but I agree with her on that. Sure you can. I think the type of porn a man likes says alot about him actually. I think alot of women would agree. I agree. And to the OP, just take note of that. So if you've got people on here that are FOR or have no problem with the kind of porn you are talking about, then that should speak volumes. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 And it is fastly different between a porn film and a regular movie. .... that man in the movie really is doing those things to that woman in the movie. There are no tricks in that. Well a lot of people enjoy watching violent sports like boxing and so on. Personally I don't care for them, as I believe it encourages violence but it's not that different. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Well a lot of people enjoy watching violent sports like boxing and so on. Personally I don't care for them, as I believe it encourages violence but it's not that different. A.) This has nothing to do with the topic of discussion. B.) There is a different physchological, emotional and physical affect going on when someone is physically masturbating to something. Unless men are masturbating to other men boxing, You have no leg to stand for. C.) How is violence and abuse at the expense of a woman, anywhere related to two grown men with the same size, skill and weight competting agaisnt each other in brute force of wills? I don't like to watch boxing or anything but if you can't see the difference between a boxing match, one mind you where more men enjoy it then women, and the abuse of women in porn, then you are messed in the head. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 While people will probably disagree with me, violence within itself is not the issue. It's abusive violence against someone who's physically weaker than you, all for the sake of wanking off, is, in my opinion, a miswiring of what sex is all about. It reminds me of pedophilia. Link to post Share on other sites
SilverChrome Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 This type of porn is degrading to me. I don't mind rough sex : a bit of hair pulling, butt-smacking or even a bit of biting. Cumming on a woman's face for me, as much as some guys/girls think that's sexy ... to me, it's another degrading thing one can do to a woman. JMHO. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 i defend my constitutional right to watch any type of legal pornography whenever i want to...and i think i speak for most porn conosseurs Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 A.) This has nothing to do with the topic of discussion. They are both examples of spectators enjoying two consenting individuals endure pain and in some cases injury. I'd say they have a lot in common, most of the differences are window dressing. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 But no one is questioning your right to watch whatever type of porn you want. However, the attraction to porn that is humilating and abusive to women says alot about the type of man you are and your view, at least somewhat at the very least, on women. Alpha, what would your opinion be of a woman that got off on seeing men humilated for her pleasure? And I am not even talking sexually. How about if this woman liked for me to be take advantage for for their money, used for it and diminished and mentally abused, if not physically. Because most cases, a woman physically abusing a man is less likely. I wonde rwhat your opinion would be of such a woman and if you would date her. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 They are both examples of spectators enjoying two consenting individuals endure pain and in some cases injury. I'd say they have a lot in common, most of the differences are window dressing. I would say you are fishing for something to draw attention away from the real subject at hand. And you will ignore other points to make your own. I will repeat, unless men are masturbating to other men hitting each other and abusing each other, it isn't the same thing. It is NOT the same thing when two grown men go head to head in a battle of brute force then when a man punches and chokes a woman. You want to keep making it seem like it is, that's your business. But you aren't exactly know for your respect of women either. And your argument is crap. I don't know what is worse. That you want to make the argument to begin with or you can't aknowledge or discuss the topic at hand and would rather try to divert it with inane side examples that have nothing in common in fuctionality or relation wise between human interaction. Link to post Share on other sites
JackJack Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 i defend my constitutional right to watch any type of legal pornography whenever i want to...and i think i speak for most porn conosseurs I don't think the OP is saying that you can't. Just because someone makes a post about something that disturbs them, or has a concern about doesn't mean it will disturbs you. I think that's apparent. Link to post Share on other sites
blair08 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 So alpha are you saying YOU would in fact do this to a woman? Smack her in the face hard and boobs? I don't mean in a lighthearted kind playful way either. If so it does what for you? Makes you feel powerful? Also, are you sure you like this kind of stuff, or you trying to be different and draw attention to yourself? I'm starting to wonder if some of these people who feel its ok, are not quite understanding the type of porn the original poster is referring to. I think maybe they think its the type where there is the fantasy staged type and thats why they feel its ok. BTW, alpha you remind me of an earlier poster who didn't seem to have a problem with this kind of thing either. I haven't seen him return though, odd. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Alpha, what would your opinion be of a woman that got off on seeing men humilated for her pleasure? doesn't bother me. anyways, some women already do that as part of their daily routine Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I will repeat, unless men are masturbating to other men hitting each other and abusing each other, it isn't the same thing. This might come as a shock to you but there are other ways for people, even if they happen to be men, to derive enjoyment from things. Are you saying that people watching porn like this is A-OK as long as those people don't wank to it? Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 one cannot judge a man solely upon the type of porn he does or does not watch... So you wouldn't judge a man who likes child pornography? You don't think that watching that says something fundamental about his character? I certainly think that the sort of porn a man watches says a lot about how he views women, and I'd be very wary of a man who enjoyed watching women being abused. OP, when your bf said that "maybe" he likes that sort of porn, that's as good as saying "yes"... only he didn't want to come right out and say "yes" in case you freaked out, so he said "maybe", but the fact remains that he didn't say "no"! I think he was probably gauging your reaction to the sort of porn he likes. You can be fairly sure that if you remain in a relationship with him he will probably want to indulge his desires at some point, which will result in violence against yourself... maybe if you fell in love with him you might even agree to it just to make him happy, and I don't think it would be very pleasant for you to participate in... it could result in pain, serious physical damage, and even death depending on how far he wants to go. Again, as I said before, each to their own... what two consenting adults choose to do is up to them, as long as they both enjoy it... my concern here is that the OP will end up doing something that she isn't really into, something painful and possibly dangerous, to gratify this man's sexual desires. OP, if you're certain that you don't want that kind of sex, make it very clear to your bf that you will never be doing this together. If he chooses to leave the relationship because of that then so be it... although personally I'd have to rethink the whole relationship because imo his sexual desires depict him as a violent and uncaring individual who is most definitely not bf/husband material. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 doesn't bother me. anyways, some women already do that as part of their daily routine It bothers you. And that's why you like the kind of porn you do. And yes, any woman has the right to be concerned or judge a man based on what kind of porn he looks at. Me? I personally think it's bad enough that there is even the stereotypical porn out there. Let alone what has been described in this thread. And you know what is even worse, that most of us seem to just accept that this kind of porn is out there. Does that say something about our level of familiarity with abusive porn and thus, the quantity of it that is out there? I really would like to know how many men think other men watch this kind of porn then don't. How many men out there that have families are closing their doors at night to get off on 18 year old girls being smacked around and damanged? Link to post Share on other sites
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