tami-chan Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Maybe. I also bring his food to his room in a tray, with a little tablecloth, napkin, silverware, drinks, bread etc. Every time. LOL!!!!! I like you !,,,so you expect your son to at least , make a lot of money to provide for his family, right? I ask this because there is nothing more annoying than a poor man who expects to be treated like royalty...
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 LOL. You are having entirely too much fun with this. I'm not kidding you one bit.
allina Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 you expect your son to at least , make a lot of money to provide for his family, right? I ask this because there is nothing more annoying than a poor man who expects to be treated like royalty... Good point.
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 LOL!!!!! I like you !,,,so you expect your son to at least , make a lot of money to provide for his family, right? I ask this because there is nothing more annoying than a poor man who expects to be treated like royalty... Well, he'll have to figure out what he wants to do one day. Who knows. (Btw, he got the GED because he just couldn't get bothered to go to school either)
tami-chan Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Well, he'll have to figure out what he wants to do one day. Who knows. (Btw, he got the GED because he just couldn't get bothered to go to school either) LOL!!!! you are too funny!
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 LOL. You are having entirely too much fun with this. (I just posted the picture of my parents in the profile for your amusement)
Island Girl Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Maybe. I also bring his food to his room in a tray, with a little tablecloth, napkin, silverware, drinks, bread etc. Every time. Why does that not surprise me. And what happens if he does get married to a Stepford Wife and have children-- and then something happens and she is not there anymore? His struggle would be that much harder - probably completely overwhelming - because he is unprepared for the world. Most parents want to raise a child that is self sufficient and can care for themselves in all ways in necessary. I pity his eventual partner who is sentenced to that. A friend of mine got one of those and it was a struggle for years to get him up to speed in the REAL world after he grew up in that kind of environment.
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 And what happens if he does get married to a Stepford Wife and have children-- and then something happens and she is not there anymore? Oh, I don't know those things. But I think it'll be hard for him to match mom. He is spoiled to death.
Island Girl Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 (Btw, he got the GED because he just couldn't get bothered to go to school either) I didn't even see this until now. I can't even find the words. Just mind blowing really. And the fact that he is this way and you have such a lackadaisical attitude is alarming. You realize you have raised a child that is not responsible and could not care for himself in any way. If he were to want a good job to help provide for a family he is ill equipped to do so. And in your perfect world he should be able to do that on his own with his wife taking care of the house and children. -- But under your supervision you have given him no tools to accomplish that. Yeah. I agree. "Oh well." If he ends up living under a bridge, "Oh well". If he ends up sad and alone blaming the world for his shortcomings, "Oh well".
Island Girl Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Oh, I don't know those things. But I think it'll be hard for him to match mom. He is spoiled to death. The truly terrible thing about all of this is how proud you are of this.
Woggle Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 This is what happens when a boy has no male role model to teach him how to be a man. I know many fatherless boys who grow up to be men who can't take care of themselves.
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Yeah. I agree. "Oh well." If he ends up living under a bridge, "Oh well". If he ends up sad and alone blaming the world for his shortcomings, "Oh well". Dunno.. Right now he is just getting tons of sex because the girlfriend started to stay over for the weekend. (So I bring the tray thing with breakfast for both) I think at this age this is more important for him to be happy.
Island Girl Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 This is what happens when a boy has no male role model to teach him how to be a man. I know many fatherless boys who grow up to be men who can't take care of themselves. Sorry but the fact that he is a male is secondary here. My mother was a single mother. Three children. Two girls and a boy. And we all graduated from high school, gone to college, and held jobs, etc. We can all do laundry, dishes, etc. and have lived on our own able to take care of ourselves because we were taught how to do so. Whether male or female, a child should be given the necessary tools to care for themselves.
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 We can all do laundry, dishes, etc.. we were taught how to do so. (Oh, like you have to be a rocket scientist to figure those things out or be taught).
Woggle Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Sorry but the fact that he is a male is secondary here. My mother was a single mother. Three children. Two girls and a boy. And we all graduated from high school, gone to college, and held jobs, etc. We can all do laundry, dishes, etc. and have lived on our own able to take care of ourselves because we were taught how to do so. Whether male or female, a child should be given the necessary tools to care for themselves. Is that why there is damn near a whole generation of males who are not prepared for life? Men these days are lost and I think a large part of it is because there is nobody in boyhood to teach them how to become a man. Not saying that single mothers can't do a good job but despite what feminists may think a generation of fatherless boys is not a good thing. Then again maybe we should just shove kids out into the world at a young age and let them learn the hard way. I have been on my own since age 16 and I turned out fine.
Island Girl Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Is that why there is damn near a whole generation of males who are not prepared for life? Men these days are lost and I think a large part of it is because there is nobody in boyhood to teach them how to become a man. Not saying that single mothers can't do a good job but despite what feminists may think a generation of fatherless boys is not a good thing. Then again maybe we should just shove kids out into the world at a young age and let them learn the hard way. I have been on my own since age 16 and I turned out fine. There are so many mothers out there who "spoil" their little boys -- yes girls too but it isn't the same. These mothers dote on their boys and do not teach them life skills. They are taught nothing about responsibility and caring for themselves. There are repercussions of course. And then the mothers are up in arms and "oh my poor baby", etc. The fathers? Absentee for whatever reason. Being out on your own since 16 must have been tough early on Woggle, but I am sure you know how to take care of yourself and do not need anybody around to do anything for you. Yes, there is a lot to be said for that.
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 The fathers? Absentee for whatever reason. In the case of my son, he doesn't want to see his father. Because whenever he goes to his father's house, he starts preaching what he should do in life, and they also have a million rules in that house. My son never had a single rule either, so he doesn't like to be told what to do.
Woggle Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 It is a natural for a mother to want to protect her son and sheild him. Fathers love their sons as well but it is a more tough kind of love which helps prepare him for the world. It is sort of a reverse situation with fathers and daughters. If we had a generation of women manily being raised by men with very little female role models we would be seing many lost women. I am glad the world tested me at a young age and I passed but sometimes I think it made too hard. If I am ever a father I will make sure to teach them hot to survive but I will still let them have a youth and a childhood. They will not grow up with the fear I grew up with.
sally4sara Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 In the case of my son, he doesn't want to see his father. Because whenever he goes to his father's house, he starts preaching what he should do in life, and they also have a million rules in that house. My son never had a single rule either, so he doesn't like to be told what to do. Sounds like: Your husband didn't stick around for your perfect wifey act; either because you were not good at it or it isn't a reliable way for keeping a man happy in marriage. So, You try to punish your ex husband for leaving you by using your son. Wait on him hand and foot; give the boy no house rules with you so he will turn away from your husband's house rules. I hope you only had one child. At which point I start to wonder why you believe you are on the same level as your grandmother SAHM to multiple children.
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Your husband didn't stick around for your perfect wifey act; either because you were not good at it or it isn't a reliable way for keeping a man happy in marriage. Wrong again. My ex husband 1 would beg me to kill him when I left him.
sally4sara Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 I'm sure.... many hole in your theory no matter which way you spin it. If you were being the perfect wife the way you say women are naturally suppose to be, you would be too happy to leave - right? It was a party for you remember? You described it as such. You show the dysfunction of your little corner, but act like it was story book time. I smell story book fiction safely beyond the monitor. My boots come up to my calves and I have no hip-wadders. So before it gets TOO deep up in here......
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 If you were being the perfect wife the way you say women are naturally suppose to be, you would be too happy to leave - right? It was a party for you remember? You described it as such. Well, Being a SAHM was the easy part. I always got along great with my son. But I just didn't love him anymore. I gave him that line too. I met him at 16 years old, so I was too young. Actually, I think all the troubles I'm having now may be because I'm paying karma for this.
Woggle Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 You are just as bad as the feminists you deride. A loyal career woman is better than a walkaway wife who stays at home any day of the week.
Ariadne Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 You are just as bad as the feminists you deride. A loyal career woman is better than a walkaway wife who stays at home any day of the week. Well, I married him at 19 years old. I didn't even know what I was doing then. Good thing he got remarried and his happy with his new wife, and they have a nice family.
dobler33 Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 In the case of my son, he doesn't want to see his father. Because whenever he goes to his father's house, he starts preaching what he should do in life, and they also have a million rules in that house. My son never had a single rule either, so he doesn't like to be told what to do. troll. please tell me you're a troll. please please PLEASE tell me you're making this up to spark debate. otherwise i am going to gag on your repulsive irresponsible bullsh*t rhetoric. seriously. if you are serious you have just catapulted us all back into the fourteenth century. barf barf barf gag puke hurl yak. i can't find words, only vomit. also, if your son never had a single rule, then you are unquestionably one of the worst parents i have ever had the misfortune to converse with.
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