soserious1 Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Most older men don't Soserious. The men I dated either realized their ship sailed for children, or were hearing their own biological clocks ticking they were on a mission to find a mate. Men aren't immune to aging as Vonerik would like to believe. I've heard so many comments from men worrying about getting older that I know they are not as steadfast in this area as some men here would like us to believe. lol, My friend is several years older than I, now following Vonerik's logic I should be setting my cap for this guy,pulling out all the stops to attract him because he's older. The question is why? we would quite literally have NOTHING in common in terms of lifestyle.
Kamille Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Yeah, everytime I meet a guy, the first thought on my mind is: "I wonder how good his sperm count is". Not. The main thing that attracts me to someone is how they make me feel. I don't really buy into the biological destiny arguments, be it for men or women. I'm attracted to younger and older guys - for me age is not a factor of attraction. If it is for some people - that's fine. It's their prerogative. I don't even feel the need to argue against those who believe attraction is first and foremost biological. Hey, it makes sense for you in your life. It doesn't for me and truth be told, it doesn't matter who's wrong or right since no amount of arguing about attraction, biology and age is going to actually change my age or how attractive I am (and who I find attractive). To get back to the OP's question: it is up to her date to decide whether age is an issue or not for him. Short of going out with him and giving him a chance, there isn't much she or we can do.
vonerik012 Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Jersey, there is BIOLOGICALLY an absolute cut off point for women to have children. Usually 40-45. Why were men not made/created/evolved in the same exact way? Who are they supposed to be reproducing with, and why do they still have fertile sperm decades after women become infertile?? Obviously with younger women. If you older women are meeting many younger men that want to marry you, then go for it. I am not jealous.
Jersey Shortie Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 I'm sorry Vonerik but alot of your assertions are nothing more then hyperbole.
soserious1 Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Jersey, there is BIOLOGICALLY an absolute cut off point for women to have children. Usually 40-45. Why were men not made/created/evolved in the same exact way? Who are they supposed to be reproducing with, and why do they still have fertile sperm decades after women become infertile?? Obviously with younger women. If you older women are meeting many younger men that want to marry you, then go for it. I am not jealous. There's a lot of features wired into us since time began that we no longer need to survive. YMMV but I think anybody that wants babies into their 50's and 60's has something wrong with them be they male or female.
Lovelybird Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Men are visual, and value beauty. . I thought God created man not only with eyes, but also with heart; so all the time I just was deluded?
Dharmaa Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 It's very simple. Women have a desire for security. They do not value beauty as much as men, Another dillusion boy/men tell themselves. Women are just as visual and sexual as men. I never once in my life got wet by looking at a bank account balance.
almost famous Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 That is so silly, we value looks and appearance just like men. It's not like we can be attracted to any ole guy, just like you can't be attracted to any ole gal. It's so retarded when men keep saying "men are visual creatures" Uh, dude, same here. We all have physical preferences. Women have eyes and are visual creatures, too. It's not like we go to the mountains and don't notice how beautiful they are, just like we don't notice a man we find attractive. Stop spouting BS coming from your own heads. If a woman doesn't find you attractive she doesn't want you. Same as with you if you don't find a woman attractive. Age is important to women, too. I am not attracted to men more about 5 years older than I am and a lot of women feel the same way. I'm a woman and I can tell you this. I have friends, so I can definitively tell you this.
vonerik012 Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Another dillusion boy/men tell themselves. Women are just as visual and sexual as men. I never once in my life got wet by looking at a bank account balance. Dharma, sorry, it is a proven fact. First of all, just say a guy is a surgeon, pilot, or CEO and many women will start getting wet. He amazingly becomes much more funny, and physically attractive instantly. Psychologists also have done studies in which models are dressed up as Walmart workers, and average looking Joes were dressed as someone who has one of the above 3 jobs.. Overwhelmingly, the women found the average Joes to be more attractive. The above does not work for men. Men see who is better looking, no matter what her work uniform is, and that is whom they are attracted to.
Jersey Shortie Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Well, at least we know Vonerik doesn't think any better of men, then he does woman.
RecordProducer Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 He is only 7 years younger and you are both attractive. I don't see the problem. Why can men date and marry much younger women, but not the oher way round? I am 18 years younger than my husband and he tells me that my age is not important and totally not any advantage for me (our marriage is very bad, by the way). Then why doesn't he marry a woman who is 18 years older than he is, which 70?!?! His ex-wife was his age (very pretty and young-looking), but when he was 47, he put on his dating profie that he was looking for the age range 30-45. Why not 30 to 70?
taiko Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 I thought God created man not only with eyes, but also with heart; so all the time I just was deluded? The eyes are instaneous. It takes a lot of surgery to get to the heart.
Balthazar Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 So now men are not visual? Then who do cosmetics stores do business with? How about clothing stores? Who is doing all that shopping? And what for? WHat about plastic surgery? breast implants? I mean, if we are not visual, it won't appeal to us anyway. What's the use?
almost famous Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Nah, the men I have been in relationships with were really into professional women. they were educated and professional and they wanted women at their own level. There actually is more to love and romance than looks. I know it may shock you but many men want more than a sperm recepticle. Your study means nothing, the men were just evaluating who was better looking, not evaluating who they would date. Trust me, none of the men I was married to, or in serious relationships were interested in dating, or even a fling with a waitress or a Wal-Mart cashier. They were looking for more depth. That could be different, though, since I only date men of my calibur, who at least have a bachelors degree. I think educated people see things differently, but noneducated people are going to be exposed to the people in their own social classes, so they're going to have friends/date/etc. mainly within that social/education (or lack of) class. You didn't see John McCain marrying noneducated women, both of them were college degreed.
Balthazar Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 True, it is well known that educated women do not wear cosmetics, nor do they have expensive plastic surgery. It is the poorer women who go for these things... I predict if this thread continues, people are going to be telling us the earth is flat... and accusing us of being misogynists if we don't agree.....
Woggle Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Men have no issue whatsoever dating educated and successful women but it doesn't really matter. As long as a woman is tolerable to live with and a man feels he will make a good wife or a good partner that is who he will go for. A woman's career status is sort of besides the point.
almost famous Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Funny how you twist things. Men AND women are visual, duh. A man can be attracted to a woman on the internet porn site but he doesn't want to date the trash. So men do not do anything to look nice, they never buy clothes and go to the gym? ha ha, this is funny. Now you're saying that if a woman finds a man ugly that she will want him just because of his job? Retarded.
Woggle Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Being rich can attract many women who would not be there if weren't for the money. These goldiggers are usually bottom of the barrel but they do exist.
taiko Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Funny how you twist things. Men AND women are visual, duh. A man can be attracted to a woman on the internet porn site but he doesn't want to date the trash. So men do not do anything to look nice, they never buy clothes and go to the gym? ha ha, this is funny. Now you're saying that if a woman finds a man ugly that she will want him just because of his job? Retarded. Men buy nice clothes because it is an outward display of our wealth thus giving the woman a visual cue of our wallet size. Men do want to date the pornstar. After having a threesome it is probably our most common fantasy. We just know that if move down socially by dating a pornstar or any woman society deems ugly the next woman in line will be less likely to be with us because we just put ourselves into a lower class by doing so. How long did it take Charlie Sheen to recover from dating 80s pornstar Ginger Lynn?
almost famous Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Ha ha, I don't date men like that. Luckily. Balthazar, where did I say that men weren't visual? How did you make it through law school? Seriously. I just said that women are also visual, then you stated that I stated that men are not visual. I am going back to work today, it is a work day at school, I have no interest in dating any of my coworkers. Am I wearing makeup? Yes. I just like to look decent to face the day. The whole point of makeup isn't just men. God.
Balthazar Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Ha ha, I don't date men like that. Luckily. Balthazar, where did I say that men weren't visual? How did you make it through law school? Seriously. I just said that women are also visual, then you stated that I stated that men are not visual. I am going back to work today, it is a work day at school, I have no interest in dating any of my coworkers. Am I wearing makeup? Yes. I just like to look decent to face the day. The whole point of makeup isn't just men. God. I am not a lawyer Almost. Although you could be a politician, because you are great at changing black to white and fabrications. Furthermore, I never referred to you with my statement; there are other people posting you know. Yes, the point of makeup is not JUST men, but looking good for men is part of the equation. As for dating any of your co-workers, IMO, that is your right. It is a free society and you can do as you choose. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Jersey Shortie Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 True, it is well known that educated women do not wear cosmetics, nor do they have expensive plastic surgery. It is the poorer women who go for these things... I predict if this thread continues, people are going to be telling us the earth is flat... and accusing us of being misogynists if we don't agree..... Perhaps you aren't misogynists but there is certainly a lack of respect for women here where we are protrayed as never coming out equal to men. We're too old to be loved, we need surgery to be pretty, men value youth and beauty over anything else so no matter who we are or what we become or how we remain loyal to a man and make a family with him, we are still at the bottom of the barrel with men apparently. Men will even hit on us and have sex with us if we are ugly, mentally hanidcapped or whatever other aligment just because we have a vagina and our only worth to a man is apparently just that. I could go on about the disparging remarks I have read of late. That's the message I have garnered from some of your posts as well as some of Vonerik's posts. We don't want to be talked about like we are at the bottom of the barrell. We want love, respect and kindess from men just as you want the same from women. However, it seems like there is a game of "who can one up the other" that we are never going to succedd at that. And the message a few of you seem to want to get across is tha twomen are at the bottom of the barrell with men no matter what. Is that something that makes you feel good?
vonerik012 Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Ok, Answer this.. A couple years ago, who was the most sexually fantasized about male amongst women of all ages? Answer... Bill Clinton Old,lying, cheater. But he had power. Now if Hillary was in the white house, do you feel any men would be fantasizing about her? Obviously not. Men and women find different traits attractive. Men do no care about your "professional" job, and actually to many men it is a turn off. Not all men want a woman who is married to her career.
Jersey Shortie Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 We get it Vonerik..women are the bottom feeders and men are wonderful creatures deserving of respect and love. Although, I don't know anyone that thought Bill Clinton was hot except chubby interns.
Balthazar Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Perhaps you aren't misogynists but there is certainly a lack of respect for women here where we are protrayed as never coming out equal to men. We're too old to be loved, we need surgery to be pretty, men value youth and beauty over anything else so no matter who we are or what we become or how we remain loyal to a man and make a family with him, we are still at the bottom of the barrel with men apparently. Men will even hit on us and have sex with us if we are ugly, mentally hanidcapped or whatever other aligment just because we have a vagina and our only worth to a man is apparently just that. I could go on about the disparging remarks I have read of late. That's the message I have garnered from some of your posts as well as some of Vonerik's posts. We don't want to be talked about like we are at the bottom of the barrell. We want love, respect and kindess from men just as you want the same from women. However, it seems like there is a game of "who can one up the other" that we are never going to succedd at that. And the message a few of you seem to want to get across is tha twomen are at the bottom of the barrell with men no matter what. Is that something that makes you feel good? You are being too absolute and you are mixing my comments with those of other posters. I can only be accountable for what I post.
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