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The doctor told me to see a therapist about it, but therapists are not working in the evenings now, when I am free, because of covid, so it's been tough to find one that can see me then.

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On 10/19/2021 at 12:36 AM, ironpony said:

The doctor told me to see a therapist about it, but therapists are not working in the evenings now, when I am free, because of covid, so it's been tough to find one that can see me then.

I know someone (in Canada) who had a virtual therapy appointment with a counsellor last weekend. If anything, counsel lord are MORE accessible during Covid. I would advise you to keep looking…

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2 hours ago, BaileyB said:

I know someone (in Canada) who had a virtual therapy appointment with a counsellor last weekend. If anything, counsel lord are MORE accessible during Covid. I would advise you to keep looking…

Okay thanks.   It's just been hard to find an evening one.  Maybe since it's virtual, it doesn't have anything to do with covid, and maybe therapists just prefer their date time hours.  But I will keep looking.

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Well I talked to a doctor about this more and he had some interesting things to say.  He said that the reason I have insomnia is because I need to get into the life and career I want and I need to stop playing things so safe all the time, because then I will always be wondering what if, and the anxiety is just going to build more and more into a life crisis and that is why I have insomnia.  It's also possible that I may feel inadequate when it comes to sex, because of this too, which I talked about on another thread.

Could he be right though, and I need to just do what I want to do and take more risks, in order to reach bigger goals and that's the problem?

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I don't recall you telling us that you can't sleep because of anxiety around 'what if' or 'unmet goals'.    Is this what you are experiencing when you lie awake?

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Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  I think it may be very internal though and going on almost every night perhaps, but I don't realize it maybe.

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Another thing about my insomnia, I have been doing highway driving in a temporary job, and driving at night.  My parents and gf are worried about me thinking I should drive during the day and stay in hotels instead at night.  But if I can't sleep, is it really worth paying for hotels, which I have to pay for myself?  It just seems like a waste if I am most likely going to be up all night anyway, and feel I might as well just drive at night and get make better use of my time.  Unless I am wrong, and it's best to stay up all night in a hotel, if I can't sleep?

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Another thing is, it was said on here before to talk to my doctor about it, but do you think I should switch doctors, because my doctor still hasn't found any clue on how to solve the insomnia problem?

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:40 PM, ironpony said:

Another thing about my insomnia, I have been doing highway driving in a temporary job, and driving at night.  My parents and gf are worried about me thinking I should drive during the day and stay in hotels instead at night.  But if I can't sleep, is it really worth paying for hotels, which I have to pay for myself?  It just seems like a waste if I am most likely going to be up all night anyway, and feel I might as well just drive at night and get make better use of my time.  Unless I am wrong, and it's best to stay up all night in a hotel, if I can't sleep?

We've been through this before.  If you have insomnia, you SHOULD NOT be doing long haul driving.   You will be a danger to yourself and others.

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9 minutes ago, ironpony said:

Another thing is, it was said on here before to talk to my doctor about it, but do you think I should switch doctors, because my doctor still hasn't found any clue on how to solve the insomnia problem?

Your doctor is a general practitioner and doesn't have the answers.  You need him to refer you to a sleep specialist.

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But he won't do that though.  He just keeps saying things like take some antihestimines because that will help you sleep or things like that, even though they antihestimes haven't been helping much, nor have his other medication suggestions, like melatonin, etc.  He never brings up sleep specialists.

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55 minutes ago, basil67 said:

We've been through this before.  If you have insomnia, you SHOULD NOT be doing long haul driving.   You will be a danger to yourself and others.

But it's not really avoidable, in this automobile driven world though, where people need to drive to get from one place to the other.

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31 minutes ago, ironpony said:

But it's not really avoidable, in this automobile driven world though, where people need to drive to get from one place to the other.

I'm not talking about driving from A to B to get to work or visit a friend.   This is about long haul driving with not enough sleep.  

If you're not well rested, you should not be doing this kind of work.  

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Adding to my previous comment: does your employer know that you suffer insomnia.  It's one thing to do as you boss asks, but they need to know the risks.  

Freight managers need to do their due diligence in terms of making sure that their drivers are well rested and are not a risk to others.  In this case, they may not be asking too much of a person who doesn't have insomnia, but if you were to crash because of tiredness and kill/seriously injure another....and your boss didn't know that you have insomnia, I can't begin to imagine what the court case would look like.   Would you be at fault for not disclosing?  

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Oh I am not sure.  I am not driving freights.  I am driving for a filmmaking job in other cities that I have been hired for, but have to do the driving myself.

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Well my doctor doesn't have any openings for the next couple of weeks and I would like to see the sleep specialist sooner since the lack of sleep has been driving me nuts.

Is there a way to see a sleep specialist without having to get referred by a family doctor that maybe I'm unaware of?

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There is no easy fix for insomnia. If you are expecting your sleep specialist to give you a silver bullet that will instantly cure it, unfortunately you are short of luck. Generally it will involve sleep hygiene practices, keeping a sleep diary, and CBT-i (plus CBT-a if your anxiety is a complicating factor).

It doesn't hurt to start sooner if you can find an opening - just don't expect that you'll start sleeping amazingly well (people say "sleep like a baby", but that's a terrible simile if you ask any baby's main parent, lol) as soon as you see the specialist. It'll take time and effort and practice - and even then one of the cornerstones of CBT-i is accepting that sometimes you won't get great sleep.

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1 hour ago, Elswyth said:

There is no easy fix for insomnia. If you are expecting your sleep specialist to give you a silver bullet that will instantly cure it, unfortunately you are short of luck. Generally it will involve sleep hygiene practices, keeping a sleep diary, and CBT-i (plus CBT-a if your anxiety is a complicating factor).

It doesn't hurt to start sooner if you can find an opening - just don't expect that you'll start sleeping amazingly well (people say "sleep like a baby", but that's a terrible simile if you ask any baby's main parent, lol) as soon as you see the specialist. It'll take time and effort and practice - and even then one of the cornerstones of CBT-i is accepting that sometimes you won't get great sleep.

Okay thanks. I just want to get in the see them. if I can without having to see a family doctor first of the family doctor is booked up for the next couple of weeks. However, when you say CBT you mean that compound of cannabis?

But also, I thought they could still identify what the problem is and would still help a lot I thought.

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14 minutes ago, ironpony said:

However, when you say CBT you mean that compound of cannabis?

Lol, no. And not cock-and-ball-torture, either. ;)

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It's a type of therapy that encourages patients to examine why they think the way they do and how they can change that.

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Oh yes that would be good, thanks. I am totally down for that it's hard to get in for that and I'm still on the waiting list.

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Could exercise be making sleep problems worse?  I went on a trip recently, and did not have time to exercise for a few days while on it, but my sleep was significantly better and I got more of it during that time.  Could it have been because I didn't exercise then? 

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I am also really horny when I have trouble sleeping some of the time, and I wonder, could this be what is causing sleeping problems?

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