Transforming into a passive aggressive man

[Kitty Tantrum]

OP: after some consideration, I want to recommend that you listen to the song "Jackson Park Express" by Alfred Yankovic. Try to let it sink in that this is pretty much the story of your love life.

 

I don't think you're the type to intentionally hurt a woman, so it's not for that reason but for the sake of your own healing and happiness that I hope you seek some appropriate counseling.

[basil67]

Only-yours, if I understand correctly, the rejections you had were as a teen. So besides the odd sex worker, what have you been up to in your adult years?

[Kitty Tantrum]

Well, I am a caring and loving man who would love to care about my girlfriend. Of course I would try to be the best man she could ever meet and be nice and polite to her. What else does a woman want?

 

That's the lamest non-answer to that question you could have possibly given.

 

What do you have to offer a woman aside from your "feels" - which are clearly and demonstrably out of whack?

 

Do you really think that human partnerships are just about having sex and feeling good and bonding? And that the only correct and normal thing is for women to want you strictly for your penis and your declarations of passion and affection and to expect nothing else?

 

You mentioned marriage. Assuming you can get your emotions, hormones, etc. under control... what would make you a good husband? What are your practical, life, professional, household, and family skills? Can you PROVIDE for a family? What do you bring to the table that would make a woman inclined to risk conceiving your child?

[Garcon1986]

Mr Only-yours, let's start with the fundamentals.

 

What do you recall being your first rejections as a kid?

And what did you feel at the time?

[basil67]

Let's say if that maid and I had sex, then how did I exactly "shot myself in the foot"? Could you please explain?

 

I don't think you would have shot yourself in the foot. I think you would have shot HER in the foot. As I mentioned previously, maids have been used by rich employers for centuries. An accidental pregnancy happens and they are out on their own. And families who are wealthy enough to have maids do not let their sons marry those maids.

 

She knows how the world works and was just looking after herself.

[anika99]

live in a country where traditions, culture, and practices are pretty different. Of course it is absolutely illegal to marry a relative who has blood relations with you. But as far as relatives who are far away in a family tree are concerned, it is legal to marry them but they should not be your blood relatives. As far as that girl was concerned, it should be noted that I decided to marry her several years ago just because I thought that she might be the right partner. However, later I just realized that I would have been making the biggest mistake of my life by marrying her. She was definitely NOT a marriage material. 

 

I get the sense that that you live in some country where women are regarde as property rather than equal fellow human beings. You say you had decided that you were going to marry the girl you were related to before she ever flirted with you or rejected you. How can you decide to marry a woman you don't even have a romantic relationship with? Is that how it works where you live? A man just picks a woman out to marry and shes expected to comply? If thats the norm where you live than that explains why people on the internet are viewing you as misogynistic.

 

Thats not how relationships work on the western side of the world. Here women are not obligated to a man just because she flirted with him. This relative of yours was just a young teenage girl. Teenage girls get crushes on boys all the time.but they can't possibly know who they want to marry at such a young age. These girls didn't love you and you didn't love them either. What you are describing is infatuation which has nothing to do with love. Infatuation is based on fantasy and lust, not love.

 

Who diagnosed you as a sex addict? Most young men have very high sex drives. I dont think you're a sex addict, I think you have some very warped ideas about how love and relationships work but there may also be a cultural divide here too.

 

As for you thinking that a woman who is arrogant or who frowne when being approached by a man is a woman who would have sex with that man as a favor, you couldn't be more wrong. A woman who frowns at a man when he approaches her is not going to have sex with that man at all. Her demeanor is telling that man that he better not even try to have sex with her because she ain't interested. People communicate in nonverbal ways with each other all the time. It's normal. Smart men don't approach women until she has given him a cue that she wants to be approached.

[Garcon1986]

You would do well to make positive fun hobbies a part of your daily routine. Women can sense negativity at a 1000 yards just like a hunter can sense prey far off in the distance. The rejection follows soon after negativity. Women are just trained to weed out men that make them uncomfortable - it's a fact of life.

 

The first step is to forgive yourself - holding on to so much hate only hurts you. Remember the story of Darth Vader?

 

The second step is to fill your life with positive fun hobbies. Women want to know that you can make them comfortable in a normal conversation.

 

Having a powerful sex drive at 27 is fairly common.

 

Are you ready to forgive yourself, and make a peace treaty with the world first? Try imagining what it would like to seek out a woman's company, just for the company. Pretend for a moment you don't want her number, her sex, her money, or anything. Just enjoy the company.

[Only-yours]

I don't think you would have shot yourself in the foot. I think you would have shot HER in the foot. As I mentioned previously, maids have been used by rich employers for centuries. An accidental pregnancy happens and they are out on their own. And families who are wealthy enough to have maids do not let their sons marry those maids.

 

She knows how the world works and was just looking after herself.

 

I was not gonna destroy her life at all. I do understand that accidental pregnancy could happen. But there are other ways to have sex without impregnating women. But the thing is that she seemed interested in me. People here in this thread think that I would have destroyed her life by impregnating her which is not true at all.

[Only-yours]

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Do you really think that human partnerships are just about having sex and feeling good and bonding? And that the only correct and normal thing is for women to want you strictly for your penis and your declarations of passion and affection and to expect nothing else?

You mentioned marriage. Assuming you can get your emotions, hormones, etc. under control... what would make you a good husband? What are your practical, life, professional, household, and family skills? Can you PROVIDE for a family? What do you bring to the table that would make a woman inclined to risk conceiving your child?

 

That is not I meant. Unfortunately, people in this thread are just misinterpreting what I am saying. I started this thread to seek help, but I never expected people would grossly misinterpret what I said. Now let's address this part:

 

Once again you are just misinterpreting whatever I said. In one of my previous threads I clearly stated that.....

Apart from having a good sexual relationship, I would want my girlfriend to be supportive towards me. I would also be supportive towards her.Everyone has their own weaknesses and strengths. I want my girlfriend to help me overcome my weaknesses. I would not want my girlfriend to be manipulative and take advantages. I want her to support me when it comes to achieving my goals and I would also help her achieve her goals. I want her to comfort me when I would be ill and I shall also comfort her when she would ill. I want each other to be together in hard times and good times. I would also love to take her out for dinner.

 

https://www.loveshack.org/forums/general/general-relationship-discussion/657680-women-would-you-ever-choose-me-love-me

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[Only-yours]

I get the sense that that you live in some country where women are regarde as property rather than equal fellow human beings. You say you had decided that you were going to marry the girl you were related to before she ever flirted with you or rejected you. How can you decide to marry a woman you don't even have a romantic relationship with? Is that how it works where you live? A man just picks a woman out to marry and shes expected to comply? If thats the norm where you live than that explains why people on the internet are viewing you as misogynistic

No, I don't live in a country where women are oppressed. In fact, we treat women much better than how west treats women. Here you are misinterpreting me once again. I never planned to marry her just because she flirted with me. I just thought she could make a good partner, but I was wrong. Once again, you are misinterpreting me. I never expect a woman to comply when it comes to marriage. Marriage only happens when two individuals agree they would get married.

 

Thats not how relationships work on the western side of the world. Here women are not obligated to a man just because she flirted with him. This relative of yours was just a young teenage girl. Teenage girls get crushes on boys all the time.but they can't possibly know who they want to marry at such a young age. These girls didn't love you and you didn't love them either. What you are describing is infatuation which has nothing to do with love. Infatuation is based on fantasy and lust, not love.

 

No one in the entire world is obliged to marry just because they flirted. I don't know from where do you get this idea. You are painting a negative picture which portrays me as a negative person. In fact, you are painting the entire nation negatively in the same way.

 

Who diagnosed you as a sex addict? Most young men have very high sex drives. I dont think you're a sex addict, I think you have some very warped ideas about how love and relationships work but there may also be a cultural divide here too.

 

I sought medical attention for my condition and they prescribed me medication. So, yeah, I am suffering from this condition.

 

As for you thinking that a woman who is arrogant or who frowne when being approached by a man is a woman who would have sex with that man as a favor, you couldn't be more wrong. A woman who frowns at a man when he approaches her is not going to have sex with that man at all. Her demeanor is telling that man that he better not even try to have sex with her because she ain't interested. People communicate in nonverbal ways with each other all the time. It's normal. Smart men don't approach women until she has given him a cue that she wants to be approached."

Ok. I got it.

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[Only-yours]

You would do well to make positive fun hobbies a part of your daily routine. Women can sense negativity at a 1000 yards just like a hunter can sense prey far off in the distance. The rejection follows soon after negativity. Women are just trained to weed out men that make them uncomfortable - it's a fact of life. >snip>

 

Unfortunately, people are just misinterpreting whatever I said here in this thread. When I said, "I hate manipulative women who use sex as a weapon" People misinterpret and translate that into "I hate all women and I love to abuse women.

 

When I said, "It would be better for women if they decline a man's offer politely." Women on this thread misinterpret that and reply, "You are not entitled for anything. A woman does not owe you polite behavior."

 

When I said, "I live in a country where practices, traditions, and culture are all different." People again misinterpret it and say, "You live in a country where women are oppressed."

 

When I said that maid used to enjoy whenever I flirted with her, people misinterpret that and claim "You were sexually harassing that maid and she left the job." People are just grossly misinterpreting whatever I said.

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[zouz71]

Unfortunately, people are just misinterpreting whatever I said here in this thread. When I said, "I hate manipulative women who use sex as a weapon" People misinterpret and translate that into "I hate all women and I love to abuse women.<snip>

only yours :

 

I know what you are talking about , cause I think I live in a similar country .People in western world might not interpret well what you are saying , because what you are trying to describe could be chinese to them .

 

I once said that good men are paying the price of the fact that some women are opressed; what I meant is that the bad boys in my country are causing the suffering of Good men .

 

I was never been able to relay properly the message . we can't blame them to misinterpret what we say , because for them the social standards and constraints are different .

 

going back to main topic , I would say you are partially right , in some cultures , where sex is a favor done to man rather than an experience both they share...

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[sabaton]

I'm not a misogynist nor do I hate any gender. In fact, I am a man who loves and cares for all. I might be called a misogynist by people who fail to see my point. I am a man who would love a woman more than any other man could, but whenever I see a woman withholding sex and abusing this power, my inner- self forces me to become a passive-aggressive man.

Listen, there is no point in becoming passive-aggressive. There's a very short line that divides a man who becomes irritated because he's not having sex with his partner, and a man who one day snaps, if he starts believing that he's entitled to sex.

 

He's not. Even Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise in their physical prime and high-level aesthetics were rejected by their partners from time to time. Now, if a woman is consistently rejecting having sex with you, chances are she's either having sex with other men, she has a low sex drive, she has some medical issue that needs to be addressed at the doctor's, or she was never all that sexually attracted to you.

 

Or, I dunno. The guy got lazy, went from being fit and caring about his personal sense of hygiene and self-grooming to becoming overweight etc.

 

End the relationship, dude. There's 3.5 billion women out there with many millions of them being single and looking for hook-ups or a new boyfriend to have. If you are married.. I don't know to tell you, other than to divorce her and to not get married again.

 

I have noticed that there is a lot of double standards when it comes to sex. Sexual intimacy was created as a gift by nature so that a man and woman can bond together. Unfortunately, many women abuse this power for their own selfish advantages.

Say what? No, man. Sex is mostly and primarily about reproduction. That's why most young men will smash anything that moves, and women tend to be more picky when it comes to the men they hook-up. They want to have sex with a man they can see themselves get pregnant with, even if they are not interested in getting pregnant.

 

I don't feel any more emotionally connected to a woman just because I had sex with her. There have been women I've been more emotionally connected that I never touched, than there have been women that I began to care more, or care at all, if I didn't have feelings first, after we smashed.

 

Unfortunately, many women abuse this power for their own selfish advantages.

That happens for one reason. There are many women who enter a romantic relationship with a guy they're lukewarm, sexually, about. The guy has a good job, he doesn't have a criminal record, and he's not sexually repugnant.

 

For the first months into the relationship, sex happens often and it's initiated plenty by the woman. That's her way to make you want to commit to her, and once the commitment is cemented, the sex dwindles. Because she was neve attracted to you in the first place.

 

I have listened to many a sob story from older men who are frustrated their wives or long-term partners or co-habitation wives won't let the guy smash, but they'll let the guy pay the totality or the bills, or half of it, haha.

 

So here's what you do. Go to your nearest gym. Talk to a personal trainer. Tell him you want to get Brad Pitt's body build in Fight Club(Troy's Pitt's build is too muscly for many women), and then work your heart out to achieve it. If you are balding, just shave what hair you have, get facial stubble, and get yourself some dangerous-looking tattoos. Also, wax your entire body. Young women these days love that waxed chest + legs look in men mhmm [] Maximize your aesthetics(lift,lift, lift, eat clean and healthy) and your wardrobe and such, and your chances of getting laid increase.

 

Then start dating the women who are actually sexually turned on by you. If your facial aesthetics are wanting, you can always save money and get a jaw implant. These days they can even make dudes with recessive chins look good.

 

If women think that they are doing a "favor" to me by having sex with me, or if women think that I would be doing a "favor" to them by not having sex with them, or if women think that I would be "respecting" them by not having sex with them. This is because sex was created to bond men and women. It was not created for women who could use it as a tool.

Again, sex was never created. Sex is an accident, a random activity that came to be because it is the most likely to produce viable children, instead of having us reproduce asexually. Sex doesn't create emotional bonds. Especially in women/men with high sex drives, as you'll find plenty of such people in nightclubs looking to hook-up.

 

Listen, why don't you do what my bosses do? Their wives won't sleep with them, so in order to avoid a costy divorce and ending up on a street without a dime, what they do is to visit escorts. That way they fulfill their sexual desires, they sleep with women who are much younger and much hotter than their wives - who'll do almost everything they want for the right price - and they don't have to nag their wives.

 

In return they don't end up penniless. Well, that is. If you live in Europe. If you live in the States you don't have that option. Unless you don't mind going to the state of Nevada to visit the Bunny ranch .

 

I know that many manipulative women wouldn't want me as their partner because they use sexuality for their own benefit and obviously I wouldn't get manipulated, as I already understand the manipulative nature. I wouldn't want to become their partner either!

Or maybe the women who you assume are sexually manipulative are not sexually attracted to you for one reason or another, but they have sex with you from time to time because they benefit from it? $$$ €€€€ ?

 

I'm not a woman hater, but I do hate women who use sexuality for their own benefit. No man has ever used sex as weapon against women.

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[Garcon1986]

I challenge you to step up to the plate and follow a step by step plan to seek out the dating life you want. Can you promise it to yourself, for your own benefit, to take a different approach?

[sabaton]

PS: that link I just posted is broken, apparently. It leads to a page of celebrities wearing bikinis. Here's what I meant!

 

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/80/14/26/8014265b2c825abc40cf7f32515e7055--hot-body-perfect-body.jpg

 

That's good enough for most women who are looking to get smashed. Although, if I was you I'd ask your personal fitness trainer to help you out getting a visible 6-pack.

I live in a country where traditions, culture, and practices are pretty different.

Do you live in a Country that belongs to a Patriarchal society? Are you dating/interested in women who are part of that culture?

 

Do you expect them to behave and act like western women(sex out of marriage, oral sex, anal, threesomes, body-waxing etc?) while the women you want to sleep with are expected to behave accordingly to what their culture wants them to act like?

 

Of course it is absolutely illegal to marry a relative who has blood relations with you. But as far as relatives who are far away in a family tree are concerned, it is legal to marry them but they should not be your blood relatives.

Even so, if people have been doing for decades, centuries, sooner or later the children will be born with mental of physical defects. Just look at the royal houses of Europe. Most of them are carrying chronic genetic problems of some sort because they married their cousins and what not.

 

As far as that girl was concerned, it should be noted that I decided to marry her several years ago just because I thought that she might be the right partner. However, later I just realized that I would have been making the biggest mistake of my life by marrying her. She was definitely NOT a marriage material.

Well, bro, the thing is that you can marry the right woman now, and it might just happen that ten, twenty years from now, she turns out to be the wrong woman. Or maybe it's you who is the wrong guy. That is why if you want constant access to sex you should cohabitate with someone. But pay attention to the law in the Country you live in, as the amount of time necessary before the two of you are legally married in the eyes of the law differ from Country to Country.

 

Ian't see how I could have shot myself in the foot if things just escalated. Let's say if that maid and I had sex, then how did I exactly "shot myself in the foot"? Could you please explain?

Bro, don't flirt with the helping hand. Do you want to end up like Arnold Scharwznagger? The dude was married into American royalty, and he went ahead and ruined it all by having sex and getting the maid pregnant, lol. I'm sure the guy was getting laid left and right behind the wifey's back, and she knew about it - I very much doubt the majority of rich men aren't getting sex outside of marriage - but the final drop was when he got the maid pregnant.

 

Yeah. That's true. But I believe testosterone suppressors along with antidepressants and other forms of Psycho treatment might help me to suppress sex drive and suppress romantic feelings that is causing me trouble and stopping me from improving my life.

Sure, you can do that. Visit your family doctor and tell him that you don't want to deal with a sex drive anymore, and ask him what he can do for you when it comes to supressing your sex drive. You need to take into account that many doctors will just look at you thinking you are crazy.

 

Mostly because many of those dudes are middle-aged and they'd kill to get a hard boner without having to pop a viagra pill, so they can't understand where you are coming from, but if you dig in, you'll find a doctor who'll help you out.

I wanted to have sex without a condom, and I didn't want to risk getting women pregnant. I decided this when I was about 18, and if you think there's a doctor in America who'll give you a vasectomy at that age(or before you are 30) you are dead-wrong. So I had my sperm frozen, then I went to India and it didn't take long to find a reputable dude who was willing to do it for the right price.

 

Yup, I agree. However, I wasn't scaring away women in the process. Well, I am a caring and loving man who would love to care about my girlfriend. Of course I would try to be the best man she could ever meet and be nice and polite to her. What else does a woman want?

That depends on how old she is, how high or low her sex drive is, and to which culture she belongs to.

 

In the western nations, there's lots of young women aged 18-22 who are just looking for a physically attractive guy who knows how to use his penis, and who isn't going to burden them by wanting a commitment. Then there are women who want a steady relationship from an early age, and stay with the guy for a long time, hoping it leads to marriage.

 

Every woman is different, but for the most part what they seek in a marriage partner is an equal or higher level of academic education, the same(or preferably) level of income(''can he buy or help me buy a comfortable family home? Can we go to tropical places for holidays because our jointed budget allows for it? Can he afford child-support/alimony when divorce occurs?''

 

And then there are women who have a high sex drive, are sexually attractive and don't care about money or the guy's college credentials, because they can make their own money and they didn't shoot themselves on the foot by living in a state where the average rent, not even talking about a mortgage here, is thousands of dollars a month for an one or two-bedroom apt.

 

My father was a surfer who worked as a mechanic to pay for weed and drugs and beer, he lived with his parents still at 25, but in his youth he had wide shoulders a tiny waist, a deep tan, high cheekbones, a square jawline, a full head of thick blonde hair, blue eyes, 5'11'', a six-pack, an adonis belt, straight white teeth, and he knew how to please women in bed. Hell, just go watch The Empire Strikes Back and check Harrison Ford, aka Han Solo to figure out my dad looked like lmaoo.

 

Dad still looks pretty good for his age, and that's why 40 years after they met each other, they're still happily together, banging each other on the regular, and they have 5 daughters and one son.

 

Work on 'em aesthetics and there'll be plenty of women who won't care about how much money you make or where you went to school to.

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[anika99]

I never planned to marry her just because she flirted with me. I just thought she could make a good partner, but I was wrong. Once again, you are misinterpreting me.

 

I never said you were planning to marry her just because she was flirting with you. I said that you were planning to marry her BEFORE she was flirting with you so you are misinterpreting me. The bottom line is that you were planning to marry a girl that you weren't even in a relationship with and that is ridiculous.

[Garcon1986]

I think you are probably bitter from all the female rejections you've had in the past. What you need is - to discipline yourself to let go of all the pain in the past and at least try to meet new people with a smile. At the same time, do activities you enjoy where there are also women. Meet women and have a chat with them not because you want to make a sale, but just to get a sense of their different view of the world and another person's life.

 

 

Start small.

[NuevoYorko]

Hardly anybody likes manipulative people, yet they exist. We just do our best to steer clear of them.

 

You give the impression that you believe women's sexuality pretty much only exists insofar as how it affects men. That's false. Women are having sex with whom they feel like having sex with. If it's not you or me, we just move on. What they do is really none of our business; yes there can be a slight blow to the ego but move on. Of course if this is a woman we're in a relationship with, that's different.

 

You being passive-aggressive is not because of women. If you don't like it, do something about it. Passive - aggressive people are about as dislikable as manipulative ones.

[Only-yours]

I think you are probably bitter from all the female rejections you've had in the past. What you need is - to discipline yourself to let go of all the pain in the past and at least try to meet new people with a smile. At the same time, do activities you enjoy where there are also women. Meet women and have a chat with them not because you want to make a sale, but just to get a sense of their different view of the world and another person's life.

 

 

Start small.

 

I do realize this. I am working hard to make my life much better. Hopefully 2019 would be a much better year for me.

[Only-yours]

{snip} Work on 'em aesthetics and there'll be plenty of women who won't care about how much money you make or where you went to school to.

 

Thanks for your suggestions. I am currently working hard to make myself a better person.

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[Only-yours]

Huh? what are you even talking about here? Are you living with a woman who is asking you to not have sex with her? Certainly nobody here has advised that it's acceptable for a live in partner to withhold sex for no reason.

 

My impression from reading your other comments and threads is that you do not have a girlfriend and you are angry at women who refuse to have sex within the first few dates or even the first date. If you think any woman owes you sex because she accepted a date with you, you are sorely mistaken. A woman has every right to decide when, where and with whom she will have sex. A woman with good self esteem will never be pressured into sex by a man with that attitude.

 

If I'm being honest, by reading this thread and your other posts on other threads, you sound very much like a misogynistic man. You talk all about how you love women (not any particular woman, just all women in general, lol) and you will treat them so good and you are so respectful and loving and you will be a great boyfriend.....until she doesn't give me what I want! then she's a bitch!!! And that's the exact way all misogynistic men view women. They are beautiful objects to possess and own, they exists to please me and make me happy and so long as they do so I will be kind and respectful. They are not to have their own minds or free will. A woman who does not give me what I want is a manipulative bitch!

typical mysoogynistic thinking

 

Please do not blame posters here for anything you may or may not do. Part of being a grown up means taking responsibility for your own actions. If you decide be a jerk and ruin women it will be you and you alone who is responsible for your actions. Are you a man or are you controlled by others?

 

Now I really don't know what to say here. All I can just do is applaud the way you think I am. I did not literally mean I would ruin women's life just because someone gave me advice. However, as I stated earlier, views given here are by real people and this reflects what people believe. If I happen to meet a woman who is sexually manipulative, then she will just get the same treatment from me despite people claiming on forums that I am a "selfish" person just because I hate manipulative women.

 

Despite the fact that you claim that nobody should withhold sex, your rant gives an impression that it is OK for me to remain in a sexless marriage and if I beg her for sex and she does not "provide" or "give" me sex, then I would view her as a manipulative person.

 

If you believe that I should remain in a sexless marriage and allow a woman to use and abuse me using sex and allow her to do whatever she wants or make me do whatever she wants me to do, then you are hugely mistaken.

 

I am a human being, not a robot who could be controlled through women's genitals.

 

I would prefer to be in a relationship with a woman who sees me as a great partner, a supportive person, a great sexual partner, a great person, and a great provider.

 

Anyway, thanks for making me feel embarrassed for having sexual urges.

 

Thanks for making me feel embarrassed for being a man.

 

In your latest post, you wrote:

 

"I never said you were planning to marry her just because she was flirting with you. I said that you were planning to marry her BEFORE she was flirting with you so you are misinterpreting me."

Whether I decided to marry her before or after she was flirting with me is irrelevant. I just saw her as a good partner overall but later realized that I was wrong.

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[johanthim1]

Now I really don't know what to say here. All I can just do is applaud the way you think I am. I did not literally mean I would ruin women's life just because someone gave me advice. However, as I stated earlier, views given here are by real people and this reflects what people believe. If I happen to meet a woman who is sexually manipulative, then she will just get the same treatment from me despite people claiming on forums that I am a "selfish" person just because I hate manipulative women. <snip>

 

I agree with you totally. I am the same to you.

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[Only-yours]

You can't be manipulated if you don't stick around. So if you don't like how the woman is acting -- leave! She does not owe you sex.

 

Nobody owes sex I do know that. But if you think that it is ok for a woman to humiliate me, then you are wrong. Now what I will actually do is marry a woman and withhold sex. That is actually what I want to do. If a woman can live without sex, then I can also live without sex. I have been living without sex for 11 years. Now what I will do is marry a woman and purposely withhold sex and emotional intimacy to prove that I can live without her. I do not owe sex to anyone either even if that person is my wife.I have adopted MGTOW Lifestyle.

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