Why Happy Couples Cheat

[health]

Sorry, I think I was thinking of Cambodia which claims near 80%.

Percentage of Men (by Country) Who Paid for Sex at Least Once: The Johns Chart - Legal Prostitution - ProCon.org

 

I know I saw one country that was estimated to be about 96%.. I thought it was Vietnam but I'm not seeing that now. The point is that this is primarily a function of culture. It is an ancient tradition. the oldest profession, and one that has been prominent in many cultures throughout history. When it comes to men, I firmly believe it is in our nature. Given the right circumstances almost all men would see a prostitute. And all men are subject to loneliness and life crises that can cause one to stray. If you think you are above this then you have a lot to learn. Everything you know and all that you believe about the ones you love can come crashing down in a torrent and change everything about your life.

 

 

 

I was married 25 years and went ten years without sex, and never cheated on my wife. So...

 

One member asked earlier if men who see prostitutes tend to be underachievers. Apparently she hasn't seen the going price for escorts. In fact the more successful a man is, the more likely he can afford to see an escort, and will. I know a guy who drops about $200-250K a year on escorts. And I strongly suspect that other men do this for the same reasons I do [i see sugar babies now]. It makes me feel alive, just as the speaker described about having an affair. To hold a gorgeous young beauty in your arms at my age is like drinking from the fountain of youth. It doesn't just make me feel younger. My health and everything about my life has dramatically improved since I started this.

 

 

She says that passion has a shelf life. Perhaps this includes the passion for life itself.

 

There's alot of backward things in culture though - like female circumcision. You believe it's in men's nature to use escorts I don't.

 

"And all men are subject to loneliness and life crises that can cause one to stray. If you think you are above this then you have a lot to learn."

 

You assume everyone goes down that path. I can quite easily say you have alot to learn about discipline and building a conscience. How old are you? I assume around your 50s-60s.

 

Would you tell a young man to go get a prostitue who was frustrated with not having sex for a while?

 

I know older people who would be angry/roll their eyes at that type of leadership.

 

"Everything you know and all that you believe about the ones you love can come crashing down in a torrent and change everything about your life.

 

 

"I was married 25 years and went ten years without sex, and never cheated on my wife. So..."

 

I ended a just about 6 year relationship - but my world didn't come crashing down - I chose to look at it like It was a lesson in loss and growth. I ended up moving up in my career, quitting alcohol and dating a yoga instructor

 

I applaud you for your long marriage, and hey I never reached your age - but still - isn't porn or visiting a strip club once in a while better than spending money on escorts?

 

"She says that passion has a shelf life. Perhaps this includes the passion for life itself."

 

If you are on the verge of losing passion in life in general, what advice can you give to those already deep in passion with life activities goals and passions?

 

In another post (http://www.loveshack.org/forums/mind-body-soul/sexual-reproductive-health-practices/528139-consolidated-discussion-paying-female-companionship-pro-s-cons-2.html) you said this

 

"I always get a kick out of people who give advice about escorts but have no idea what it is really like.

 

 

Answers should be qualified by:

1). I have been with escorts

or

2) I have no idea what I'm talking about but here's my opinion anyway... because I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night."

 

Again I disagree with you there. That's equivalent to saying crack cocaine is bad. Don't touch it. Okay smoke it so you can give really deep advice. You knew crack was bad. Now your an addict, you catch the consequences of that.

 

Basically you don't touch fire - cause you know you'll get burned.

 

Sure you're all about prostitutes and that life. Just please don't say that every man is hardwired to get into that lifestyle. There are conscience led men and people with bigger fish to fry.

 

Sorry for being harsh - but again - there was some 28 virgin kid who was considering self harm here - would you tell him to see an escort? I wouldn't. I'd tell him to read books, exercise and find a long lasting life passion elsewhere.

Edited March 30, 2016 by health

[grammarguy]

Last summer I discovered my wife of 26 years has been having an affair with a guy for 10 years. She likes being married, but doesn't like the intimacy with me. I'm sticking around because I have no where else to go.

[Robert Z]

There's alot of backward things in culture though - like female circumcision. You believe it's in men's nature to use escorts I don't.

 

 

Evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. It is all a matter of culture. If you live in fear of the scary sky god then, for example, you might not use escorts. And if you have never had a real crisis, you may not be able to imagine it. And if you are young, you may not be able to imagine it. But given the right circumstances, almost all men will take sex over no sex. In my case, a man on the verge of suicide isn't normally a good date. So I decided not to wait to get a date before I decide to end my life. I decided to act then and there because it was a matter of life or death. It was the only thing that stopped me and I had never even imagined such a thing before. Best decision I ever made!

 

"And all men are subject to loneliness and life crises that can cause one to stray. If you think you are above this then you have a lot to learn."

 

You assume everyone goes down that path. I can quite easily say you have alot to learn about discipline and building a conscience. How old are you? I assume around your 50s-60s.

 

 

I am saying anyone can, given the right circumstances.

 

Would you tell a young man to go get a prostitue who was frustrated with not having sex for a while?

 

 

No, but if a guy has never been laid and he is old enough I might. And if it was a normal part of that man's culture I almost certainly would.

 

I know older people who would be angry/roll their eyes at that type of leadership.

 

 

Good for you! I was a Boy Scout.

 

"Everything you know and all that you believe about the ones you love can come crashing down in a torrent and change everything about your life.

 

 

"I was married 25 years and went ten years without sex, and never cheated on my wife. So..."

 

I ended a just about 6 year relationship - but my world didn't come crashing down - I chose to look at it like It was a lesson in loss and growth. I ended up moving up in my career, quitting alcohol and dating a yoga instructor

 

Wow, six whole years. I just ended a three year relationship with my sugar baby and I came out of it far stronger than I was when it started. She was the best thing that ever happened to me.

 

Marriage ruined my life and escorts helped to save it - the unavoidable truth of the matter.

Edited April 2, 2016 by Robert Z

[Rejected Rosebud]

Evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. It is all a matter of culture. If you live in fear of the scary sky god then, for example, you might not use escorts. And if you have never had a real crisis, you may not be able to imagine it.

I'm sorry but that is just insulting. You have said over and over and over again that the only reason you care to be alive is because you can pay for sex with "hot women." Everybody on here knows that about you by now. You know very little about human nature IMO. People choose not to buy and sell sex and companionship for many reasons other than "fear of the scary sky god." People who are different than you are find reasons to be grateful and find joy in this world in other ways than paying for sex with hot women. And, sorry you had a sexless marriage for 10 years, really I am, but if you think that constitutes the ultimate crisis a person can experience ... you have a very limited world view. Anyway, good for you that your gigantic crisis can be so easily remedied. :bunny:

[wmacbride]

Evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. It is all a matter of culture. If you live in fear of the scary sky god then, for example, you might not use escorts. And if you have never had a real crisis, you may not be able to imagine it. And if you are young, you may not be able to imagine it. But given the right circumstances, almost all men will take sex over no sex. In my case, a man on the verge of suicide isn't normally a good date. So I decided not to wait to get a date before I decide to end my life. I decided to act then and there because it was a matter of life or death. It was the only thing that stopped me and I had never even imagined such a thing before. Best decision I ever made!

 

I am saying anyone can, given the right circumstances.

 

No, but if a guy has never been laid and he is old enough I might. And if it was a normal part of that man's culture I almost certainly would.

 

Good for you! I was a Boy Scout.

 

Wow, six whole years. I just ended a three year relationship with my sugar baby and I came out of it far stronger than I was when it started. She was the best thing that ever happened to me.

 

Marriage ruined my life and escorts helped to save it - the unavoidable truth of the matter.

 

This sounds a lot like the placebo effect. You think something will work, so it does.

 

If that works for you, more power to you, but don't assume that all other men would feel the same way.

[health]

Last summer I discovered my wife of 26 years has been having an affair with a guy for 10 years. She likes being married, but doesn't like the intimacy with me. I'm sticking around because I have no where else to go.

 

Well how about you leave her on the side of the road, grieve, learn from this - and find a woman who appreciates you. It'll shock her when you leave and never look back - and you can find an on point woman who loves you - like you deserve!

[health]

Evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. It is all a matter of culture. If you live in fear of the scary sky god then, for example, you might not use escorts. And if you have never had a real crisis, you may not be able to imagine it. And if you are young, you may not be able to imagine it. But given the right circumstances, almost all men will take sex over no sex. In my case, a man on the verge of suicide isn't normally a good date. So I decided not to wait to get a date before I decide to end my life. I decided to act then and there because it was a matter of life or death. It was the only thing that stopped me and I had never even imagined such a thing before. Best decision I ever made!

 

 

 

 

I am saying anyone can, given the right circumstances.

 

 

 

 

No, but if a guy has never been laid and he is old enough I might. And if it was a normal part of that man's culture I almost certainly would.

 

 

 

 

Good for you! I was a Boy Scout.

 

 

 

Wow, six whole years. I just ended a three year relationship with my sugar baby and I came out of it far stronger than I was when it started. She was the best thing that ever happened to me.

 

Marriage ruined my life and escorts helped to save it - the unavoidable truth of the matter.

 

Well heck if right circumstances mean a beautiful woman with no STDS then it could be appealing to many guys. Still there are those that wouldn't deal with that even then. You can pull up evidence to back up anything in life. The key is - does it work and last long term? Most cultures where prostitution was acceptable - never thrived. Why were you on the verge of suicide anyway? Yeah I think in that case if that was your last resort then hey maybe go ahead but still - that can just lead to a new life of dependence.

 

I've had many crises. I've also gone through things that people would consider major crises - but I brush off because I have seen my share of crazy experiences in life. It's all in the way you frame it.

 

What does being a former boy scout have to do with leadership? I don't know much about boy scouts or what they teach there. I have a feeling that bad experiences there or in church at early ages can turn off a lot of people later on in life to what ever is thought at those places.

 

Real leadership is powerful and has been exemplified many times over the last 1000+ years with Kings, artists, Fathers, Mothers, entrepreneurs etc etc

 

You say "wow six years" to my relationship like it was nothing compared to your 25 year marriage. Let me tell you, my healing process was challenging - especially the first year.

 

I am well over it - but still 7 years later my ex pops in my head now and again. Mostly because it's like I created the perfect relationship in my mind. Something that was fun, pure, passionate etc etc

 

In the end one of the many lessons it taught me was that something so perfect in life can end....but other great things end up happening regardless if you're open to them.

 

You said Marriage ruined your life. You had a 25 year marriage! First off a big congrats to you for pulling that off! That's actually quite the accomplishment no matter what anyone thinks.

 

If at all possible you can drop the escorts and find a new woman - I would love for that to happen for you. Again it's not my place to say, but I wish you the best.

 

You sound like you've experienced quite the life.