Shining One Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 ^ Well, that's right. If you're not social and don't have friends, why wouldn't that tell a woman something about you. It tells her for some reason no one is being friends with you and it's either you or them -- and either way, that's creepyBy this logic, I was a creep for 45 minutes last Friday. I had a planned happy hour with some friends and we decided to meet at a bar near my office. There was an accident on the highway and they were all stuck in traffic.
Bobbi7 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Yeah, I would go with being unattractive-bald, big glasses from the 70's, plaid clothes.
phineas Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Yeah, I would go with being unattractive-bald, big glasses from the 70's, plaid clothes. I know that guy. Goes by the name of ralph furley. Hangs out at the reagle beagle.
johndoe2 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 ^ Well, that's right. If you're not social and don't have friends, why wouldn't that tell a woman something about you. It tells her for some reason no one is being friends with you and it's either you or them -- and either way, that's creepy So not having many friends means there's something seriously wrong with me and I should be avoided. Got it. I guess why bother with it then.
mortensorchid Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Not being needy, clingy or demand to come first.
mightycpa Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 If an old man stands staring at a young women with drool coming out of his mouth then yeah thats creepy no matter what he looks like. ****! Well, that explains that.
GemmaUK Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Creepy has nothing to do with how someone looks but it's more that likely that someone who is more attractive has used that as a tool for interaction and then along the way they have learned much better how to behave around others. It does have to do with how they use their eyes. It does have to do with whether they read and react appropriately to social cues. It does have to do with knowing when to keep their mouth shut instead of saying something wholly inappropriate to someone. We have 3 people at work who are considered creepy, one is a man, two are women. They are each creepy in their own ways but the common theme is that so many people say the same thing about them. Each one of them has problems with those three things posted above. Feeling creeped by someone is an instinctive feeling and I would never advise anyone to ignore it. 1
johndoe2 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Creepy has nothing to do with how someone looks but it's more that likely that someone who is more attractive has used that as a tool for interaction and then along the way they have learned much better how to behave around others. It does have to do with how they use their eyes. It does have to do with whether they read and react appropriately to social cues. It does have to do with knowing when to keep their mouth shut instead of saying something wholly inappropriate to someone. We have 3 people at work who are considered creepy, one is a man, two are women. They are each creepy in their own ways but the common theme is that so many people say the same thing about them. Each one of them has problems with those three things posted above. Feeling creeped by someone is an instinctive feeling and I would never advise anyone to ignore it. And instincts, of course, are always right? Where'd you learn evolutionary biology? Most of our instincts were formed millenia ago when circumstances of out taxon were not remotely comparable to today. So don't pretend that because I look funny means your justified in deeming me a threat. This is really great though in one sense, I'm learning a lot about people; and not in a good way. I've never done anything violent or threatening in my life, never stalked anyone or whatever, but because, what, when I'm nervous I don't hold eye contact very well or stumble over words and my body language doesn't project utmost confidence or whatever other little things, I should be avoided like a golem? It seems like hopeless shallowness, redefine it as you please. I cans see I've been beating my head against a brick wall even trying to approach women. 1
ASG Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 If Your use of the phrase"no means no" and the word escalation don't belong in a thread about men being labeled creepy. They belong in a sexual assault thread. You've taken this way too far and i find you kinda creepy for it. Er... WTF?!? "No means no" is not exclusive for rape. It's just a statement of fact. "Would you like a shot?" "no!" It means I don't want a shot. Please don't try to convince me to have one. It applies to everything in life. And the same goes to escalation. It is not a word that is exclusive to sexual assault. It is used in many situations. And trying to flirt with me and then touching me is an escalation, whether it's wanted or not. And you can think whatever you want of me. My behaviour in this thread has not been "creepy" in any way. but if it makes you feel better, you can imagine me as the wicked witch of the west, with warts and all, drooling over sculpted ab boys! 1
lino Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Any guy deemed unattractive by a woman will be considered a creep if he hits on her. What I Would consider creepy behaviour is excessive staring, getting in way too close without invitation, etc But if the guy is sexy enough, that sort of thing will actually be welcomed. Dislike the word myself and thankfully in Australia it isn't used a lot, maybe only by very Americanized teen girls? What is the female equivalent of a creep? Is there one? Like Carhill, I've yet to see a woman labelled as such both in real life and even in American media where I'd expect to possibly see it. 2
xxoo Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 The creep-alarm is a protective mechanism, and if you ever have a daughter, you'll hope that she develops it. Maybe those with the finer-tuned creep alarm didn't fall for Bundy's tricks, or weren't charmed by Scott Peterson's advances, or any married man's advances, for that matter. Some women may have over-tuned creep alarms that go off when a man is just socially awkward, but the point is to detect the possibility of danger, not be 100% accurate. And if anything, my dad wanted my creep alarm to be stronger and louder than it was as a too "nice" young woman. 3
xxoo Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Any guy deemed unattractive by a woman will be considered a creep if he hits on her. That's not true. I've been hit on by many men who have not seemed creepy to me, even though I wasn't attracted at all. I'm "nice", and many harmless guys had crushes on me throughout high school and college. I didn't date them, but I didn't find the creepy. They never pushed limits, though. 2
lino Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 That's not true. I've been hit on by many men who have not seemed creepy to me, even though I wasn't attracted at all. I'm "nice", and many harmless guys had crushes on me throughout high school and college. I didn't date them, but I didn't find the creepy. They never pushed limits, though. There are always exceptions but everyone has seen this at play, come on now. I bet if it was a hot guy pushing your limits in HS and college the reaction wouldn't be the same. This 'creep alarm' also doesn't work well very often. Guys who ARE genuinely dangerous and violent men are often sought after and very rarely single and it isn't a silly coincidence. An interesting and also somewhat sad article in one of my local papers today.. What a coincidence haha No Cookies | Herald Sun 2
xxoo Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 There are always exceptions but everyone has seen this at play, come on now. I bet if it was a hot guy pushing your limits in HS and college the reaction wouldn't be the same. If I want the guy to hit on me, of course I would encourage him and be pleased when he escalates. If I don't want the guy to hit on me, and I'm not encouraging him in any way, then yes, my creep alarm goes off no matter how hot he is. Example: at a wedding years ago, I definitely noticed the hot best man. Later, when he drunkenly cornered me by the bathroom and touched my belly, my creep alarm was SCREAMING! We hadn't even met before that moment. This 'creep alarm' also doesn't work well very often. Guys who ARE genuinely dangerous and violent men are often sought after and very rarely single and it isn't a silly coincidence. An interesting and also somewhat sad article in one of my local papers today.. What a coincidence haha No Cookies | Herald Sun Not every woman's creep alarm works well, hence the ones sucked in by sociopaths. I don't want MY daughter to be among them, so I encourage her to develop her creep alarm.
Shining One Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 The creep-alarm is a protective mechanism, and if you ever have a daughter, you'll hope that she develops it. Maybe those with the finer-tuned creep alarm didn't fall for Bundy's tricks, or weren't charmed by Scott Peterson's advances, or any married man's advances, for that matter. Some women may have over-tuned creep alarms that go off when a man is just socially awkward, but the point is to detect the possibility of danger, not be 100% accurate. And if anything, my dad wanted my creep alarm to be stronger and louder than it was as a too "nice" young woman.This is an interesting way of looking at it. Women do tend to have fear responses far more often than men to outside stimuli. Thus, it makes sense that their creep alarms will have frequent false positives. An interesting and also somewhat sad article in one of my local papers today.. What a coincidence haha No Cookies | Herald SunThis demonstrates the harm caused by an oversensitive creep alarm in the age of social media. I hope the women in these articles learned their lesson and I hope the men have not had their reputations ruined.
elaine567 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I think it is all about fear and anyone who raises alarm is judged to be a creep. There is the horror movie aspect, so anyone with a strange look, wearing weird clothes, is ugly, has a deformity or anything about him that evokes horror is immediately a creep, until proven otherwise. Some can rationally override that innate fear factor, as it is ridiculous to judge someone solely on their outward appearance, but others just give in to it and avoid interactionAnyone who invades personal space. Personal space is important and anyone invading it without permission or understandable reason is considered creepy.Unwanted sexual attention, inappropriate comments or overtly sexual gestures and undesired touching.Strange topics of conversation from strangers (death, dead bodies, Nazis, serial killers, rape, weird obsessions, fetishes etc.) - inappropriate, and odd jokes.Staring for a long time, or hanging around with no obvious reason to do so, in fact any funny and freakish behaviour that sets him apart from the norm.
hotpotato Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 1. If you are old enough to be their dad 2. If you don't know how to establish trust Yep. Some guys don't seem to understand that if I'm walking and my boyfriend grabs my butt, that's ok because we are on a certain level of intimacy however if he does the same thing, as a stranger, that is sexual harassment Some guys think women's bodies are communal property...
joystickd Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Well creepy is a subjective thing. Unattractive is the main thing and that doesnt have to mean looks. You see men do things to women they get away with because that woman though he was attractive if he wasn't it would be creepy or even sexual harassment. Funny thing is with creepy women it's usually a consistent consensus among men that she is creepy.
joystickd Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Men Who Don't Deserve the Word "Creep" - Clarisse Thorn : Clarisse Thorn interesting read
Erised Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Ignoring social cues. I could not care less if a guy is attractive. I know this one creepy guy who models. He did not take my rejecting him well and ignored a lot of cues I wasn't interested to get to that point. I know plenty of not socially attractive guys who aren't creepy. That skit is funny, but ultimately BS. Ignoring social cues, however. Or persisting past when one has made it clear and explicitly requested stopping... 1
Toodaloo Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 This thread needs a video demonstration. I am tempted to go and video some men just so I can highlight when their behaviour is creepy and when its not. A shy boy giggling nervously while rubbing his hands together and looking out of the corner of his eye like Dianna...? No one else notice this is what the bad guys in Disney films do??? Come On people! get with the programme! Even cartoons have been teaching this stuff!
Shining One Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 This thread needs a video demonstration. I am tempted to go and video some men just so I can highlight when their behaviour is creepy and when its not.I think I'll go out and video some women so I can highlight when their behavior is... If I actually did this, what word would women use to describe this action?
Toodaloo Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I think I'll go out and video some women so I can highlight when their behavior is... If I actually did this, what word would women use to describe this action? Useful... And now I have to write something else so its over 10 letters...
Shining One Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 A man video taping random women will be called creepy. Heck, this guy was publicly labeled a creep for taking a selfie.
Toodaloo Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 A man video taping random women will be called creepy. Heck, this guy was publicly labeled a creep for taking a selfie. By a really creepy woman!
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