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Anela Established Member

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They can easily be found on dating sites and in clubs.

 

Is that who you want? If it were true for all of us, we'd be too busy pouncing on someone, to be responding to you here.

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Woggle Established Member

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Maybe you can understand why some women aren't so thrilled by the idea of someone going out with them, and expecting sex right away. A lot of men here, seem to think that they're owed sex, and won't bother with a woman if she won't go to bed with them. I remember two men saying that they expected to be allowed to cop a feel of a breast, at least, if they bought a woman dinner. Unsurprisingly, these men weren't even getting first dates.

 

I agree with you. Nobody should be entitled to anything on the first date.

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Anela Established Member

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There are 10+ pages explaining this from the man's point of view, except regarding payment for the date instead of sex.

 

So, no sex, you expect her to pay half? I don't understand your response.

jay1983 Established Member

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Is that who you want? If it were true for all of us, we'd be too busy pouncing on someone, to be responding to you here.

 

Damn it, you always jump the gun! lol

 

I didn't say I wanted that, I was just saying that there's some truth to it and where you can find these women. I didn't say all women, of course not all women, nothing applies to all of you.

 

SH*T! :mad:

StanMusial Established Member

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So, no sex, you expect her to pay half? I don't understand your response.

 

Did you read every post in the thread?

Anela Established Member

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Damn it, you always jump the gun! lol

 

I didn't say I wanted that, I was just saying that there's some truth to it and where you can find these women. I didn't say all women, of course not all women, nothing applies to all of you.

 

SH*T! :mad:

 

:laugh: Sorry, but I like you. I don't like to think of you believing certain things about women.

SearchingForMyself Established Member

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And what should I do about that?

 

Hey you know something searchingfor brought up and it came up on a thread a couple of days ago about ethnicity. I know this place has all these short guys crying about women don't want them cause they're short? I don't know how true the short thing is, but the ethnicity thing is major.

 

We can't navigate the dating market like white men can. To make matter worse, there's a sh*t load of ethnic women who only date white men. So we don't know what we might get. A multidater, a flaker (which is common) and I've run into 1 gold digger who liked me because I drove a BMW.

 

Finally!

 

Someone said it!

 

I've always wanted to say this...but getting on here was great when I was dealing with my ex issues but I'm completely over her.

 

Speaking of which...i just checked her Facebook after two years. Saw her with her new guy. At first I had a tinge of regret but it went away.

 

She seems happy. Sure she cheated on me, lied and humiliated me, but hey, that is life. I hope she finds a compatible guy, and one day, I will find a compatible girl. I'm still not interested in reaching out though.

 

But as minority dating is tough, yo! You can't tell who likes you for you, an experiment, or your money.

thefooloftheyear Established Member

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It is acceptable for a woman to wait and properly vet a man before sleeping with him. I have no problem with this and fully support it. Why is it unacceptable for man to wait and properly vet a woman before investing in her financially?

 

 

If you think picking up a dinner tab is "investing in her financially" then I dunno what else to say???(shrug).....She is probably investing time and money as well., maybe she bought a new outfit so she could look nice or get her hair done, etc..

 

But I think you are missing the point...

 

Its the characterization of some that think expecting a guy to pick up a tab in the early stages of courting makes a woman a leech and the guy a dumb fool and putz....I just dont see how that equates...

 

TFY

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StanMusial Established Member

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I wonder what dating is like for an Asian dwarf on food stamps.

toolforgrowth Established Member

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If you think picking up a dinner tab is "investing in her financially" then I dunno what else to say???(shrug).....

 

But I think you are missing the point...

 

Its the characterization of some that think expecting a guy to pick up a tab in the early stages of courting makes a woman a leech and the guy a dumb fool and putz....I just dont see how that equates...

 

TFY

 

No, I think you're missing the point.

 

It's the EXPECTATION that men cough up the dough for the date which determines whether or not she'll even like me in the first place.

 

I'm more than a wallet. Just like she's more than a vagina.

autumnnight Established Member

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I guarantee you at least half of the women who have posted on this thread think I'm a slimy jerk. And I know that even though I'm quite good looking, they wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole because of it.

 

Your argument is invalid.

 

I don't think you're a slimy jerk. I think we could have a good old argument and then have coffee (splitting the bill tee hee) and laugh about all sorts of stuff.

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I mean, with that thinking, if a woman didn't put out right away, would that immediately qualify her as a cold fish?

 

TFY

OF COURSE!! AND an entitled gold digger in case you took her out for a beer!!
toolforgrowth Established Member

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I don't think you're a slimy jerk. I think we could have a good old argument and then have coffee (splitting the bill tee hee) and laugh about all sorts of stuff.

 

This is why I like you. :)

 

Believe it or not, I'd buy your coffee. Not because you expect it, but because I respect you.

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jay1983 Established Member

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Finally!

 

Someone said it!

 

I've always wanted to say this...but getting on here was great when I was dealing with my ex issues but I'm completely over her.

 

Speaking of which...i just checked her Facebook after two years. Saw her with her new guy. At first I had a tinge of regret but it went away.

 

She seems happy. Sure she cheated on me, lied and humiliated me, but hey, that is life. I hope she finds a compatible guy, and one day, I will find a compatible girl. I'm still not interested in reaching out though.

 

But as minority dating is tough, yo! You can't tell who likes you for you, an experiment, or your money.

 

Here's the thread, it's the first one I've seen on here. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/524206-have-you-ever-felt-discriminated-against-dating-because-your-race

xxoo Established Member

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And what should I do about that?.

 

Be picky, and when you meet a woman who is a great catch, court her strongly.

Rejected Rosebud Established Member

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I'm kind of starting to think these guys who expect so much out of a woman before they are sure she is not just after that free stuff might be pretty insecure, like they don't think they have much else to offer than money to spend on her??:confused:

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jay1983 Established Member

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Be picky, and when you meet a woman who is a great catch, court her strongly.

 

I like how you cut out the rest of my post. :)

xxoo Established Member

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I like how you cut out the rest of my post. :)

 

I believe that you're a great guy, and will attract a great lady! :)

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StanMusial Established Member

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'm kind of starting to think these guys who expect so much out of a woman before they are sure she is not just after that free stuff might be pretty insecure, like they don't think they have much else to offer than money to spend on her??:confused:

 

Uh yeah, the homeless guy posting in here is afraid a woman might steal his spot under the bridge.

Rejected Rosebud Established Member

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I'm more than a wallet. Just like she's more than a vagina.

A wallet and a vagina are not analogous.

 

OK what if the woman happens to have a lot more income than you do, is she supposed to turn around and walk away if you don't pay for your own dinner on the first date?

Shining One Established Member

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If you think picking up a dinner tab is "investing in her financially" then I dunno what else to say???(shrug).....She is probably investing time and money as well., maybe she bought a new outfit so she could look nice or get her hair done, etc.
When I say invest, I mean paying for all of our dates up until the point she confirms she's actually interested or declares she's uninterested and we part ways. This can be many dates, depending on how patient I am and how long she waits to make up her mind.
I'm kind of starting to think these guys who expect so much out of a woman before they are sure she is not just after that free stuff might be pretty insecure, like they don't think they have much else to offer than money to spend on her??:confused:
It's called lessons learned.

  • I burned my hand taking something out of the oven. Now I use oven mitts.
  • I dropped some hot coal on my foot. Now I'm more careful around the grill.
  • I spent well over $2,000 dating a woman I really liked and thought was into me. She was sleeping with someone else for most of the 5 months we dated while I bought into her "I like to take things slow" crap. Now I'm more careful with my money.

Again, why is okay for women to vet men but not for men to vet women?

Its the characterization of some that think expecting a guy to pick up a tab in the early stages of courting makes a woman a leech and the guy a dumb fool and putz....I just dont see how that equates...

 

TFY

I was a dumb fool and a putz as indicated above.
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toolforgrowth Established Member

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A wallet and a vagina are not analogous.

 

Perhaps not to you. But I don't like being objectified for my money any more than you like being objectified for your sex organ.

 

You don't have to see it the way I do. What's important is how I see it.

 

OK what if the woman happens to have a lot more income than you do, is she supposed to turn around and walk away if you don't pay for your own dinner on the first date?

 

She would be perfectly within her rights to do so.

 

The difference is, I don't go anywhere without the ability to pay for myself. I assume responsibility for myself in any given situation. So if I were dating a woman with more money than me, I would still pay for myself. She isn't responsible for me...I am.

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jay1983 Established Member

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A wallet and a vagina are not analogous.

 

OK what if the woman happens to have a lot more income than you do, is she supposed to turn around and walk away if you don't pay for your own dinner on the first date?

 

Yes, absolutely she can walk away if I don't pay my share.

 

Now you're getting it. :)

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jay1983 Established Member

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Perhaps not to you. But I don't like being objectified for my money any more than you like being objectified for your sex organ.

 

You don't have to see it the way I do. What's important is how I see it.

 

 

 

She would be perfectly within her rights to do so.

 

The difference is, I don't go anywhere without the ability to pay for myself. I assume responsibility for myself in any given situation. So if I were dating a woman with more money than me, I would still pay for myself. She isn't responsible for me...I am.

 

Like right now, I'm doing bad, work is down and I'm working odd jobs for scraps. I'm not out at the bars, I'm staying in a tiny apartment with 3 people so guess what? I'm not trying to date because I can't even pay for myself.

thefooloftheyear Established Member

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When I say invest, I mean paying for all of our dates up until the point she confirms she's actually interested or declares she's uninterested and we part ways. This can be many dates, depending on how patient I am and how long she waits to make up her mind.It's called lessons learned.

  • I burned my hand taking something out of the oven. Now I use oven mitts.
  • I dropped some hot coal on my foot. Now I'm more careful around the grill.
  • I spent well over $2,000 dating a woman I really liked and thought was into me. She was sleeping with someone else for most of the 5 months we dated while I bought into her "I like to take things slow" crap. Now I'm more careful with my money.

Again, why is okay for women to vet men but not for men to vet women?

I was a dumb fool and a putz as indicated above.

 

I feel for you, man....but.

 

I usually know within an hour of talking to someone if they are a buyer or not...Id suggest that rather than taking a hard line and looking like a bitter jackass to a large percentage of women, you work on your skills of perception and body language...No woman would ever be that slick...I know the signals from a mile away...

 

Everyone has a bad experience once in a while...and also, we do things in this life that don't always make sense in terms of 2 + 2....but we do them to maintain or develop relationships....Heck. I have friends I do more for than they do for me, but who cares?

 

And btw, women have to vet out strange men, because if they aren't careful they can wind up in the trunk of a car in long term parking, or raped and left for dead....Its not the same "vetting" you are talking about...

 

 

TFY

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