i cant take this life anymore... :(

[benjamn12]

I am guessing you have to be a troll. If not, you need therapy NOW.

 

Still- assuming you are serious...

 

You can't change the past, but you can change your present. You want something nasty but don't want love? Stick to the prostitutes and get as nasty as you want. Pay for 3 of them at once and have the nastiest night of your life and have stories to tell...to WHO I have no idea... that nobody can beat.

 

If you only want nasty and don't want love, don't even try to waste the time of the normal girls you meet. There's no point. Stick to the hookers, who I guess in your view are life's winners anyway. (No offense to hookers.)

 

I had 4 different therapists in past. Therapy is not for all things. This is one of them. No therapist can convince me i did have the same sex and party in the past as beautiful women. This are facts.

[d0nnivain]

Offcourse. How could you not watch natures most beautiful creations...women. For me those girls are the winners of life.

 

 

Do you understand that the actresses in porn movies are fake on multiple levels? First their bodies have been surgically altered (notice I didn't say enhanced) Second, they don't really enjoy what is being done to them. It's a pay check. Third, they are often airbrushed & digitally altered for the movies.

 

Normal people have bad days. Their make up isn't perfect after hot steam sex. They rarely wear shoes -- & especially not those ridiculous hooker heels -- when having sex.

[BlueIris]

Offcourse. How could you not watch natures most beautiful creations...women. For me those girls are the winners of life.

 

It sounded that way, and that porn is and has formed your sexual life. It would make sense that you would choose to remain a virgin rather than establish relationships, and that porn has provided the basis for your definitions of beauty, value and sex, and become depressing and frustrating too. You might find this interesting:

 

 

Note especially at ~14:00 forward about how the effects and recovery are different for younger men than for older men.

 

If you haven’t addressed it already, you might want to discuss this possibility with your therapist.

Edited November 21, 2014 by BlueIris

[Thegreatestthing]

Oh I feel sad/pity for you,you want debauchery,passion,yolo lifestyle etc to be like a wild beast.alot of boys are very dedicated to getting as much Pusey as possible - I don't really understand it,one pussy can't be that different from another?

 

you feel all this has been denied you,but why?

Not sure what you mean by the stats,in what way are you 237 and other guys a 10,to sleep with girls you need charm and or looks - work on both,work on your sexual energy etc.

[MercuryMorrison1]

To the OP.

 

One day you're going to grow up and realize these ''endeavors'' you are perusing are incredibly childish and not NEARLY as important as you think they are, and that there is so much more to life than how much pussy you scored in your youth.

 

I agree that it sounds like you've let porn essentially shape your entire view on what is beautiful and what isn't, and as already stated...Porn is complete BS compared to the real world...Of course I have watched it before, but I never took it seriously, That is not how women are in real life, that is not how sex is in real life...Not even close, and in my personal opinion nothing porn has ever showed me is even remotely beautiful at all. As already stated, those women are there to collect a paycheck...Nothing more.

 

The problems you are experiencing is not because of the women around you...It's because of you as a person, I think its very likely the women you do try and hook up with can see right through you and can tell right away that you are a scared, intimidated BOY who's just looking for cheap, easy sex...It's no wonder you haven't had any luck. It's time to MAN up.

 

Your situation isn't going to change until you do. I'm not trying to insult you...I'm telling you exactly what I see and what I think you need to do...It's quiet a simple fix in my opinion and suicide isn't the answer.

 

Best Wishes OP.

Edited November 21, 2014 by MercuryMorrison1

[benjamn12]

Do you understand that the actresses in porn movies are fake on multiple levels? First their bodies have been surgically altered (notice I didn't say enhanced) Second, they don't really enjoy what is being done to them. It's a pay check. Third, they are often airbrushed & digitally altered for the movies.

 

Normal people have bad days. Their make up isn't perfect after hot steam sex. They rarely wear shoes -- & especially not those ridiculous hooker heels -- when having sex.

 

Yes, some don't. But some do. Beside that, most of todays woman in porn look totaly normal, very few have fake tits and i dont even like this kind of women, normal ones. plus there is a lot of normal sex in porn also around.

[benjamn12]

Oh I feel sad/pity for you,you want debauchery,passion,yolo lifestyle etc to be like a wild beast.alot of boys are very dedicated to getting as much Pusey as possible - I don't really understand it,one pussy can't be that different from another?

 

you feel all this has been denied you,but why?

Not sure what you mean by the stats,in what way are you 237 and other guys a 10,to sleep with girls you need charm and or looks - work on both,work on your sexual energy etc.

 

Are you richer in life if you eat only 10 different food in life or you tried a lot more? Offcourse second.

[benjamn12]

To the OP.

 

One day you're going to grow up and realize these ''endeavors'' you are perusing are incredibly childish and not NEARLY as important as you think they are, and that there is so much more to life than how much pussy you scored in your youth.

 

I agree that it sounds like you've let porn essentially shape your entire view on what is beautiful and what isn't, and as already stated...Porn is complete BS compared to the real world...Of course I have watched it before, but I never took it seriously, That is not how women are in real life, that is not how sex is in real life...Not even close, and in my personal opinion nothing porn has ever showed me is even remotely beautiful at all. As already stated, those women are there to collect a paycheck...Nothing more.

 

The problems you are experiencing is not because of the women around you...It's because of you as a person, I think its very likely the women you do try and hook up with can see right through you and can tell right away that you are a scared, intimidated BOY who's just looking for cheap, easy sex...It's no wonder you haven't had any luck. It's time to MAN up.

 

Your situation isn't going to change until you do. I'm not trying to insult you...I'm telling you exactly what I see and what I think you need to do...It's quiet a simple fix in my opinion and suicide isn't the answer.

 

Best Wishes OP.

 

Its not like that at all. Women like me and if i would be on the same level and could talk to them, i could get some. But its useless, if i am not on their level. Therefor there is no way out.

 

As i told before. Everybody has different norms, so you cant tell me what is important in life. For some its that, for others some other things.

 

And leave porn beside. Its not about that. Sorry, if you cant see the difference between someone who had normal sex life since youth since 15-18, at least every weeekend some sex, love, going out. And someeone who had nothing, was all the time at home, experiencing nothing. If for you those 2 persons are the same rich in life, then you dont understand it. This is all i am talking about. This facts.

[d0nnivain]

Sorry, if you cant see the difference between someone who had normal sex life since youth since 15-18, at least every weeekend some sex, love, going out. And someeone who had nothing, was all the time at home, experiencing nothing. If for you those 2 persons are the same rich in life, then you dont understand it. This is all i am talking about. This facts.

 

I don't know who you hang out with but most kids are not out every weekend having orgies. I know plenty of people -- even my friends' kids now -- that spent their teenage years doing wholesome things, not debauchery.

 

The only reason you are not on somebody else's "level" as you put it, is that you have decided to adopt this defeatist attitude & put yourself there. As fake & detestable as it is, can you at least try to channel your favorite male porn star who has the confidence to go for what he wants. I am not talking about forced sex here but just manage to ask some girl to go out with you. You said women find you attractive, so ask one on a date. Pretend you know what you are doing -- the old fake it 'til you make it. Do not come on too strong or press for sex but get to know the woman & let things develop.

 

By refusing to even try -- YOU not anybody else -- are dooming yourself to a life of misery as you sit there wallowing in self pity crying about how you didn't have an orgy before you could legally drive or vote. Jeesh

[MercuryMorrison1]

Its not like that at all. Women like me and if i would be on the same level and could talk to them, i could get some. But its useless, if i am not on their level. Therefor there is no way out.

 

As i told before. Everybody has different norms, so you cant tell me what is important in life. For some its that, for others some other things.

 

And leave porn beside. Its not about that. Sorry, if you cant see the difference between someone who had normal sex life since youth since 15-18, at least every weeekend some sex, love, going out. And someeone who had nothing, was all the time at home, experiencing nothing. If for you those 2 persons are the same rich in life, then you dont understand it. This is all i am talking about. This facts.

 

Clearly you took what I had to say as insult, and I apologize if I made you feel as such.

 

You're right, I cannot tell you what is important in life...We all have different priorities, You have made your priorities very clear. The thing that bothers me, is that you apparently know exactly what you want and have been trying to get it for along time, but then because it's not happening for you, you come here and threaten suicide and shoot down everyone's advice and throw a whoaways me pity party, instead of actually going out and trying different things to achieve your goal. And youth is NOT just 15 to 18....Youth is more like...10 to 30...But it's subjective to different people.

 

I don't excatly understand what you mean by ''Women like me, and if I could be on their level and could talk to them I could get some''

 

To me it just sounds like you are putting the women you meet up on this ''your so wonderful let me bow down and kiss your feet'' pedestal. I figure that's probably half of your problems ''getting some'' right there.

 

I'll gladly offer you advice and answer any questions you might have to the best of my extent and knowledge, however I refuse to take pity on someone who is miserable with themselves and refuses to make the changes to better their situation.

Edited November 21, 2014 by MercuryMorrison1

[bebe23]

 

 

 

Sorry, if you cant see the difference between someone who had normal sex life since youth since 15-18, at least every weeekend some sex, love, going out. And someeone who had nothing, was all the time at home, experiencing nothing. If for you those 2 persons are the same rich in life, then you dont understand it. This is all i am talking about. This facts.

 

These are about the ages of my two oldest children. (Both girls) Their lives, Monday-Friday, are consumed by school, homework, staying up late at night studying, dance and sports, and more studying. Weekends for them are spent sleeping until 1 in the afternoon to recover from homework/studying, going to movies/shopping or just watching TV at home with each other, or their friends (other girls). They go to church with hubby and I most Sundays unless they are tired. And- more studying!

 

One daughter has a boy in her circle of friends, it's platonic. Neither had a date to the homecoming dance, and neither has gone on a one-on-one real date yet. Both are beautiful, lovely, A-student girls.

 

If they had the lifestyle of the kids you describe as 'normal' I would have failed as a parent for having children who'd likely be guests on the 'Maury' Show.

[benjamn12]

@bebe23

 

You come from other generation. And women like your daughters are not majority which party every week. At least where i live.

[d0nnivain]

@bebe23

 

You come from other generation. And women like your daughters are not majority which party every week. At least where i live.

 

What bebe23 & I are trying to get through your head is perhaps you should think about dating people who aren't out partying & being wild all the time. You are focused on one segment of the population & it happens to be a segment where you don't think you fit it, yet you aspire to be more like these people who have no values.

[benjamn12]

I don't know who you hang out with but most kids are not out every weekend having orgies. I know plenty of people -- even my friends' kids now -- that spent their teenage years doing wholesome things, not debauchery.

 

The only reason you are not on somebody else's "level" as you put it, is that you have decided to adopt this defeatist attitude & put yourself there. As fake & detestable as it is, can you at least try to channel your favorite male porn star who has the confidence to go for what he wants. I am not talking about forced sex here but just manage to ask some girl to go out with you. You said women find you attractive, so ask one on a date. Pretend you know what you are doing -- the old fake it 'til you make it. Do not come on too strong or press for sex but get to know the woman & let things develop.

 

By refusing to even try -- YOU not anybody else -- are dooming yourself to a life of misery as you sit there wallowing in self pity crying about how you didn't have an orgy before you could legally drive or vote. Jeesh

 

Do you realize when you say i have misery life you agree with me i am not worth the same as others. Because this is what it means when you say for somebody i feel sorry for him or good i am not in his place. It means automaticly he is socially and statisticly less worth then you.

 

@MercuryMorrison1

you wrote: "instead of actually going out and trying different things to achieve your goal"

 

How can you win a race that is over since 10 years? How can you be a good sportler if all other train from their youth and you started at 25? You can't! It's over. Do you understand my point? Therefor i cant do nothing! Nothing can bring me to the result of being equal to those women who have sex since young age regulary. Some also right now

[benjamn12]

What bebe23 & I are trying to get through your head is perhaps you should think about dating people who aren't out partying & being wild all the time. You are focused on one segment of the population & it happens to be a segment where you don't think you fit it, yet you aspire to be more like these people who have no values.

 

I am not interested in this kind of women, because we dont share same values and norms.

[MercuryMorrison1]

@MercuryMorrison1

you wrote: "instead of actually going out and trying different things to achieve your goal"

 

How can you win a race that is over since 10 years? How can you be a good sportler if all other train from their youth and you started at 25? You can't! It's over. Do you understand my point? Therefor i cant do nothing! Nothing can bring me to the result of being equal to those women who have sex since young age regularly. Some also right now

 

I honestly cannot even begin to fathom why not having sex and/or orgies at an early age would even remotely effect someone this profoundly. You seem way to preoccupied with things like status.

 

So you've never been in any orgies, So you didn't get to have sex as a teenager, So what!? Those things are EXTREMELY small fries in the grand scheme of things.

 

Look man...I want to help you out, but it's really hard because I cannot hardly wrap my mind around the reasoning behind this being so upset. I get that you aren't looking for a good valued wholesome girl to spend your life with...You just want someone to have sloppy dirty sex parties with from the sound of it.

 

As far as all of this happening 10 years ago...Sorry but there's nothing you do to change that...What's done is done, but you said yourself that girls like you, if that TRULY is the case then do what d0nnivain said, Fake it ti'll ya make it and eventually you'll find your own little nympho and be able to do all the things you so relish.

Edited November 21, 2014 by MercuryMorrison1

[Allumere]

I can't tell you that you aren't feeling what you are feeling...but I can tell you that your perception is wrong. But you won't listen because you are not listening to any of the advise /suggestions being made....just spitting back that we don't understand, we are wrong and you are right, this is how life will always be..blah, blah, blah. Look you obviously came here for help so for a brief second consider some of what you are reading here. These folks aren't responding for their health....they are concerned and want to help...to include not handling you with kid gloves. Believe it or not most of us have been handed numerous crap sandwiches in life, heck some are struggling on choking one down right now, but those experiences have led to a wee bit of wisdom.

 

Now as far as the specifics, sex isn't that complicated...all this experience you are talking about is irrelevant. The basics are always the same.....and from there you tweak based on the person you are with communicates and what feels good to you. Oh sure these kids are screwing their eyeballs out every weekend...and I have some swamp land in Florida for sale. And for the very few that are sexually active with multiple partners my guess is there are numerous with STDs and there have been several abortions....gosh that just sounds so wonderful doesn't it?

 

There is nothing wrong with you besides your thinking on this...you are so much more than a penis and life is so much more than a 10 second orgasm.

[Gloria25]

I dont want love, i want numbers. I would like to have something nasty to tell about my youth and i will never have because of that. Therefor i can never be equal to others And people have sex all the time, for me its science fiction... this tells about their and my worth

 

Ok, "numbers" do not equate "quality". Again, all those people you envy probably are just "mounting" each other. I think dogs have a more exciting sexual experience than they do.

 

Why do you wanna have something "nasty" to tell about you? Really? You want to be known for doing something "nasty"? Well, I guess there are people out there who buy into the whole "I'm popular/a celebrity, cuz I did something nasty/shameful like get drunk and/or do a sex tape".

 

Look, maybe maturity is needed here, but if you have sexual needs you want to accomplish - then that's your thing/fetish. Maybe you can find a willing partner or an escort to carry out those desires/wants.

 

I have certain sexual desires and/or experiences that some people might get turned off to - but that's "my thing" and I do that in the privacy of my bedroom. That anyone "knows" I've done it is not important to me. I have nothing to "prove". Actually, the way I dress and act (quite prudish) might even mislead people as to what my passion and/or sexuality is like - and I like it that way. I don't have to be "on display" for anyone.

[Shields boy]

Benjamin,

 

Chill the hell out man and stop worrying about notches on the bed post. Man the hell up and find a sweet woman to make love to. I guarantee that way is much better.

[RockyCruz]

I'm 28, never had party, sex, women and fun as most of all others (except a few times sex at prostitute). My problem now is i dont feel equal to all those who had sex already in highschool and regular sex in years to follow. I just can't and therefor i dont have any will to live anymore. Can't find motivation for anything if i know all people had so much more from youth then me [​IMG]

 

Now a girl on facebook told me about how on her school trip all guys had sex with the teacher, 2 years ago. I am crying for half hour now, because it hurts too much... I will never be on the same level as those advanced women who are capable of those things. I will never have such success in life to tell about as all those guys at their 18...

 

It seems my last worth got lost... i cant live with those facts anymore... i am so behind and not equal to other people...

 

You got it upside down mate.

 

I was unemployed, no qualification, no experience in life but I attracted the women. I didn't need to tell them anything about me. In fact, that's what women don't want you to. Bore them about your success, how much you make, how many you slept with.

 

You got it upside down and completely wrong. Your perception, your mindset is filled with so many illusions, it's making you think that the secret is having more success with wealth, looks, material, experiences with other women.

 

Listen mate. If I can come to a country called England, and only know a bit of English, and walk into a night club, or walk the street and see a woman, and get her to walk with me, hold my hand, then you can do so and you are way ahead of me when I was in my twenties.

 

No one can help you in this state.

 

I'm sorry, but I would never help someone who is in this state, because it be so hard, difficult, trying to help someone acting sorry for themselves, acting like a victim, comparing themselves to others and lowering themselves so low.

 

It be too much hard work to even bother.

 

You got it all completely wrong and you need to sort your head out and stop reading garbage, watching garbage, hanging around with people with garbage mindset and wake...the heck up!

 

Get of the self pity victim train.

 

I'm 45 years old, I started things aged 35 and I'm beat some of the best in my industry. What BS are you filling your head with. Wake up man! Wake up and stop feeling sorry for yourself and acting like some some victim.

 

No one wants to be with someone who thinks like that.

 

Get tough! You want women, well, stop feeling sorry for yourself and start learning. There is no magic bullet for success in anything.

 

You can..

 

1. Go to gym and invest in your body.

2. Dress up with nice clothes or at least look clean.

3. Invest in books about confidence, women, dating etc.

 

Start there and don't come here, telling me, some sad self pity excuse about how you can't because I don't give a damn about excuses.

 

Now....you want the women or don't you?

 

Well, stop this victim mindset, get off the floor, wipe the crap off yourself, clean your mind and begin sorting your head out.

Edited November 22, 2014 by RockyCruz

[d0nnivain]

Do you realize when you say i have misery life you agree with me i am not worth the same as others. Because this is what it means when you say for somebody i feel sorry for him or good i am not in his place. It means automaticly he is socially and statisticly less worth then you.

 

 

Not exactly. I said I can see that you are miserable now. BUT the ONLY reason you are miserable is because you choose to be. You have decided you are worth less than others. That is not true unless you believe it to be true & act accordingly.

 

 

If you realize that your theory is wrong & that nothing about the fact that you didn't act like a crazed irresponsible nut with low self esteem when you were a child is condemning you to a substandard life now and you go about having a great life then you will. Your refusal to do anything bulk sulk & wallow is what is holding you back.

 

 

You need therapy to get you past this fallacy you have built up. When you do go to therapy print out a copy of this thread & bring it to the doctor.

[benjamn12]

I will never again go to therapy, i understand now it does not help in this case. No doctor can change the facts what women had in their youth and what they alived and what did i have. This are facts.

[benjamn12]

What's done is done, but you said yourself that girls like you, if that TRULY is the case then do what d0nnivain said, Fake it ti'll ya make it and eventually you'll find your own little nympho and be able to do all the things you so relish.

 

I am not a person who can fake it and lie. Offcourse i would not tell women the whole story about my paste and try to make it little less shocking. But reality facts stay. That for her it was normal to have a penis in her mouth and hand at 18 and me not, to have sex. They alived all those years the biggest thing in live - sex, like its nothing special and for me this is bigger science fiction then Star Wars movie. Don't you get the difference in development of those 2 persons? And i dont mean in knowledge or being good at sex, but just for the sake of doing it.

[d0nnivain]

It's not about changing the "facts." You are right. Other people had sex & wilder sex than you when they were younger.

 

 

What the therapist will change is your perception. What you don't understand is that the "facts" about your early sex life vs. the experiences of others in the past has absolutely no bearing on your future unless you continue to let it hold you back.

 

 

Just because I didn't have a glass of wine yesterday does not mean I can't have one tomorrow or next week or next year. That is the piece you fail to understand.

[elaine567]

I will never again go to therapy, i understand now it does not help in this case. No doctor can change the facts what women had in their youth and what they alived and what did i have. This are facts.

 

That is true, we can never relive the past. But if we all had the same attitude as you, we would never learn or do anything ever again. There are always going to be people more experienced, more worldly wise than us.

Just because they have had more opportunities, we are supposed to wallow in misery and do nothing for ourselves? It is all too late... we cry...

 

I was not sent to violin lessons at 5 years old, like some were, so I now I cannot learn to play the violin? NONSENSE

 

My parents did not travel the world and see lots of different countries with me as a child, so I cannot travel the world now? Is that what you are saying?

Because "fact" I will never be as well travelled as some, because I didn't have the chance to go see lots of countries as a child!!

I cannot go in a train or a bus or a plane, because I am too inexperienced???

I am not worthy of travelling because all those other travellers have done and seen more than me...

 

FACT at 28, you could in one year, if you really wanted to, have more sexual experience and more sexual conquests, than most of the men on this forum.

So get a grip, stop wallowing in misery.

 

Your thinking is skewed, please go to therapy.