The Evil Good Looking Man

[MoreCoffee]

If you have a couple bucks and/or a computer, you have options. Whethe or not you choose to take them is up to you.

 

Men everywhere will be thrilled with this news...to the reddit!!!

[hotpotato]

She's mentioned earlier that a not so good looking boyfriend cheated on her with a hooker, so I can see why she is getting stuck on the thought that all men have options.

 

If she can accept that not that man men consider hookers as options she can see that men really don't always have a woman available.

 

Also, not all men want to have with just any any woman.

 

I also mentioned that I know of attractive men I have never dated, that still buy sex or cruise the internet. I also mentioned unattractive men like my gramps who still have plenty of oprions. He has a wife and at least one girlfriend.

 

Average and even unattractive men cheat all the time. Evidently, they have option.

 

 

Plenty of men want to have sex with most women. Let's not play. Even the average or homely wiman is very sexually attractive to most men. It doesnt take much for a man to want to have sex with a woman. See Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[hotpotato]

If you read my post, you'd see that I didn't mention cheating or being faithful at all.

 

Then what have we been debating these past few pages?

[hotpotato]

There's no truth to homely men being somehow of superior character to handsome men. Isn't it pretty to think so, though. Your character isn't formed based on how you look. Your confidence may be influenced by it to some degree, but that's not a given either. The handsomest man I knew confessed decades later that he was very insecure back in the day and he wondered if I could see it in him. He was the absolute most spectacular man in any room and his confidence seemed genuine to me. I guess he had to fake it until he made it. He confessed his insecurity was because he was considered terminally ill as a child, an immune disease, so he always thought of himself as weak. But he survived and made himself into a force to be reckoned with. It's true he had to peel women off him like old gum, but he was always as careful as he could be not to hurt their feelings, and he was known to intervene if he saw a man abusing a woman. And he wasn't always picking the most beautiful girl in the room either like most other guys did. I think when you're that good looking, you don't feel you need the trophy girl to make you feel like a man.

 

Homely to average men are, if anything, even more anxious to put notches in their belts too, because they are trying to prove something to themselves and others.

 

 

You're right. It's comfortable and also less attractive men trying to sell themselves.

 

This situation actually worked in my benefit when a woman who had this frame of thinking. SHe just assumes that all good looking guys will cheat or treat her like crap. So she dated an average joe like me. lol

 

Any woman who believes a man will treat her better because he's less attractive is about to have another thing coming!

 

Somedude says:

Also, not all men want to have with just any any woman.

 

but also says:

Think of it this way, almost all guys want to have sex with as many women as possible.

 

The really good looking guys simply have more opportunities to do so.

 

Well then can you really blame guys for their desires?

 

Apparently everybody wants to sleep with women

[somedude81]

I forgot a word in that previous post

 

Think of it this way, almost all guys want to have sex with as many attractive women as possible. It should be implied by now that I almost always only write about attractive women.

 

The theme I was focusing on this thread is that attractive men will want to stick to having casual sex with as many attractive woman as possible. Which means that those men usually don't want to settle into a relationship. If they do go into a relationship, they won't tolerate much because they know they can easily find another woman to be with.

 

Odds are if a woman is in a FWB thing with a guy, it's most likely with a very attractive guy who just wants her for sex, and who knows how many other women.

[BlueIris]

On ls I frequently see posts putting down good looking men. Usually, its something like, "Alpha males want to spread their seed" or "Good looking men will cheat (not-so-good looking men wont)?

 

Is that really true? Why are good looking men presumed tp be so...awful...compared to their less attractive counterparts?

 

Most of the criticisms of good looking men could really encompass a lot of men in general regardless of their appearance.

 

Is it really that bad to date a hot guy?

 

I don’t think good looking men are more likely to cheat or to have defective character at all. I don’t assume that and I’ve found the opposite to be true. I think it’s just a myth that jealous people have created. I think that people who are resentful, lazy or jealous, who believe they deserve more than they have, are the people with the least appealing character and the people most likely to feel entitled or justified to use and mistreat others, to please themselves at others’ expense. So regardless of physical appearance, I suppose a good looking person could turn into someone with poor character if he comes to believe he should have more, just like anybody else could.

[xxoo]

There are many men that want to have sex with as many attractive women as possible. Those men are average, ugly, and hot. And all to be avoided.

 

Then there are men who value relationships, and one partner above as many as possible (even if they are still attracted to other women). These men, too, may be average, ugly, or good looking in appearance.

 

Screen for character. Looks tell nothing about fidelity.

[Anela]

I forgot a word in that previous post

 

Think of it this way, almost all guys want to have sex with as many attractive women as possible. It should be implied by now that I almost always only write about attractive women.

 

Of course, because those who aren't as attractive, don't deserve to have sex lives, let alone be treated with affection, right? Us women, I mean. Women are supposed to look past that sort of thing for men.

 

The theme I was focusing on this thread is that attractive men will want to stick to having casual sex with as many attractive woman as possible. Which means that those men usually don't want to settle into a relationship. If they do go into a relationship, they won't tolerate much because they know they can easily find another woman to be with.

Untrue. Not only are there very attractive men who don't sleep around, there are those who will stay in a relationship that isn't the happiest.

 

Odds are if a woman is in a FWB thing with a guy, it's most likely with a very attractive guy who just wants her for sex, and who knows how many other women.

Odds are, if a girl is in a FWB situation, she's only with a guy she wants for sex. We don't fall in love with every man in our lives. There are people who can have that fun, without wanting more.

[Keenly]

If you have a couple bucks and/or a computer, you have options. Whethe or not you choose to take them is up to you.

 

And if I had an invisible jet, I'd be wonder woman.

 

 

 

What you are saying is so utterly ignorant, so blatantly incorrect that its impossible to take you seriously. You speak of things of which you have no clue.

[MoreCoffee]

There are dudes banging inflatables because they don't have a shot at the real thing. There are mad scientists in Asia (with the backing of major corp.) developing androids, and I don't mean the phones. Sure there are some being groomed for military. Know what the rest are for?

[Priv]

There are dudes banging inflatables because they don't have a shot at the real thing. There are mad scientists in Asia (with the backing of major corp.) developing androids, and I don't mean the phones. Sure there are some being groomed for military. Know what the rest are for?

 

Isn't it awesome

[MoreCoffee]

Isn't it awesome

 

Hell to the yeah!

[Imajerk17]

I'm confused by what you average-looking guys posting on this thread want, what your point is. Do you all feel that the world should be such where you keep on screening women by their looks/attractiveness, but women should stop being so "shallow", and look past attractiveness to see what "Nice Guys" you all are?

 

Those of you who are single and dateless and wish to be otherwise should either (a) pursue average women, or (b) take responsibility for your hard-to-meet standards.

 

Not only good-looking people find love. Meanwhile I am writing this in the coffee shop. At the table over is an "average-looking" man and an "average-looking" woman. Yet from the way they are holding hands and looking into each others' eyes they are clearly in love.

[Anela]

There are dudes banging inflatables because they don't have a shot at the real thing. There are mad scientists in Asia (with the backing of major corp.) developing androids, and I don't mean the phones. Sure there are some being groomed for military. Know what the rest are for?

 

So they'd rather have sexual relationship with a doll, or an android, than date an average woman. I think that's a little extreme.

[Weezy1973]

So just to be clear we're defining "evil" in this case as men that would rather have casual sex than form a long term, meaningful relationship?

 

If that's the case here are two reasons why good looking men might be prone to having longer periods of time for wanting casual sex before settling down than unattractive men.

 

1. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the more choice one has, the more difficult it is to choose. If genetically good looking men have more options, they're going to realize that (at least subconsciously) at an early age - likely right around puberty. How this would likely play out is a man "testing" many different women in an attempt to choose the right one. Even if he was relationship oriented, he would behave as if he wasn't.

 

2. Men that want to attract women for sex alone are much more likely to try to attract them with their physical appearance than other qualities - as such they are likely to work much harder on their physical appearance. And, as studies have shown, women that are also just looking for casual sex, place a much higher premium on the looks of a man, rather than any sort of other qualities. As an example - for the women who do OLD - when you come across a man's profile with a shirtless bathroom selfie - the common reaction is that man is just looking for sex. But also, those men usually put the effort in and work out a lot to develop a body that they would use to try to attract a woman. For casual sex.

 

Now - I'm not saying at all that good looking men (either through genetics or through effort) are all just looking for sex. That would be a ridiculous assumption. But I think it's reasonable to assume, based on the two reasons given, that there's likely a higher proportion of good looking men that are only interested in casual sex, than there is in the general population. Which means there's plenty of unattractive men that are also just interested in casual sex...

[MoreCoffee]

So they'd rather have sexual relationship with a doll, or an android, than date an average woman. I think that's a little extreme.

 

So you don't think it happens? Also, I'm pretty sure they would LOVE to be with a female. They can't. Now if you are of the mindset that can't means wont...

 

Why can't they? Because it's not enough to "like," women. You have to like them for the right reasons. Like them for the wrong - you're done. Also you have to have to have a certain level of social skills/communication at your disposal. If you're awkward more than likely, you're done. What is there left for those men? OP already said johns don't get arrested for seeking out companionship. Tell that to the 30 dudes that just got caught in the sting in Dayton Ohio, as well as nationally within the last two months. /rant.

Edited September 20, 2014 by MoreCoffee

[PJKino]

I'm confused by what you average-looking guys posting on this thread want, what your point is. Do you all feel that the world should be such where you keep on screening women by their looks/attractiveness, but women should stop being so "shallow", and look past attractiveness to see what "Nice Guys" you all are?

 

Those of you who are single and dateless and wish to be otherwise should either (a) pursue average women, or (b) take responsibility for your hard-to-meet standards.

 

Not only good-looking people find love. Meanwhile I am writing this in the coffee shop. At the table over is an "average-looking" man and an "average-looking" woman. Yet from the way they are holding hands and looking into each others' eyes they are clearly in love.

 

You can't help who you're attracted to if rather be alone the rest of my life then be with someone that I can't imagine getting intimate with without cringing

 

That doesn't mean every women I'm attracted to is a 10 nor does it mean because a women isn't hot that she isn't shallow or picky

[Imajerk17]

You can't help who you're attracted to if rather be alone the rest of my life then be with someone that I can't imagine getting intimate with without cringing

 

That doesn't mean every women I'm attracted to is a 10 nor does it mean because a women isn't hot that she isn't shallow or picky

 

You sound just like the women you are complaining about dude. And you said yourself that you aren't "hot".

 

It's cool, we all like what we like. BUT, I'm not seeing you having any moral high ground over the women who you complain "aren't hot but are too picky and shallow".

[Imajerk17]

You can't help who you're attracted to if rather be alone the rest of my life then be with someone that I can't imagine getting intimate with without cringing

 

That doesn't mean every women I'm attracted to is a 10 nor does it mean because a women isn't hot that she isn't shallow or picky

 

PJKino, you realize that the women you complain about for being too shallow, say about the VERY SAME thing as you just said above? You also mentioned that you aren't "hot" yourself so what's the difference?

 

I'm just not seeing the moral high ground you claim to have over the women you are griping about for being too shallow, sorry.

 

You like what you like and it's cool. But so do they and it's cool too.

Edited September 20, 2014 by Imajerk17

[PJKino]

PJKino, you realize that the women you complain about for being too shallow, say about the VERY SAME thing as you just said above? You also mentioned that you aren't "hot" yourself so what's the difference?

 

I'm just not seeing the moral high ground you claim to have over the women you are griping about for being too shallow, sorry.

 

You like what you like and it's cool. But so do they and it's cool too.

 

I never said it was wrong at all I just wanted women to be honest because they're always saying men are more shallow and into looks when it's not true looks are equally as important to women

[Imajerk17]

I never said it was wrong at all I just wanted women to be honest because they're always saying men are more shallow and into looks when it's not true looks are equally as important to women

 

ATTRACTION is as important to women to men, not LOOKS per se.

 

Looks play a part in women feeling attraction but they definitely are not the end-all be-all. An average-looking guy with swag does quite well with women and in dating, thank you.

[jay1983]

ATTRACTION is as important to women to men, not LOOKS per se.

 

Looks play a part in women feeling attraction but they definitely are not the end-all be-all. An average-looking guy with swag does quite well with women and in dating, thank you.

 

It can vary, sometimes I do well, other times not so much. Just depends luck, the people I'm around, where I go and how many women I meet.

 

Seriously though a lot of people, both men and women overrate themselves and reject perfectly good matches.

[GoodOnPaper]

I'm confused by what you average-looking guys posting on this thread want, what your point is. Do you all feel that the world should be such where you keep on screening women by their looks/attractiveness, but women should stop being so "shallow", and look past attractiveness to see what "Nice Guys" you all are? .

 

Well, this average-looking "nice guy" would like to experience a woman being drawn to him in that involuntary physically lustful way like we see them drawn to very good looking guys. Sure, I understand that there wouldn't necessarily be many women out there who could be drawn to me that way but not even one? It seems the best guys like me can hope for is "relationship attraction" and it's not the same. She may like the sex when it happens but it's not something that drives her attraction. Yet she's very dedicated to the relationship and very wary of anything or anyone who threatens it. I know we're supposed to just take who we can get - I had hoped that would be more satisfying.

[xxoo]

It can vary, sometimes I do well, other times not so much. Just depends luck, the people I'm around, where I go and how many women I meet.

 

Seriously though a lot of people, both men and women overrate themselves and reject perfectly good matches.

 

If people are missing out on love and companionship because they are rejecting people just as attractive as themselves, that really is a shame.

 

Hot guys don't have this problem. Maybe they are more likely to partner up early, and that's why older, single hot guys have such a bad rap. They more likely aren't the commitment type.

[PJKino]

Well, this average-looking "nice guy" would like to experience a woman being drawn to him in that involuntary physically lustful way like we see them drawn to very good looking guys. Sure, I understand that there wouldn't necessarily be many women out there who could be drawn to me that way but not even one? It seems the best guys like me can hope for is "relationship attraction" and it's not the same. She may like the sex when it happens but it's not something that drives her attraction. Yet she's very dedicated to the relationship and very wary of anything or anyone who threatens it. I know we're supposed to just take who we can get - I had hoped that would be more satisfying.

 

I agree that's why I'll wait till a women approaches me..I don't want a women who just sees me as a reliable partner who she tries to tolerate physically but is not really ever in lust with