Men and breasts. Is it true?

[SarahRose]

I don't, but I don't have a huge problem with them on fitness girls because they would likely have A cups or B cups (which is fine for me but they feel self conscious about it) if they didn't have implants

 

 

I have a huge problem with implants when a girl with natural Bs/Cs/Ds gets em because it's a horrible idea

 

 

 

 

 

those are natural. Dani Daniels is 100% natural

 

lol yeah right. they are 100% all natural implant

[FitChick]

People need to just lighten up and stop making mountains out of sand.

 

You mean these

?

[SarahRose]

Rather ironic isn't it. And then you hear men talk about how they know these images are photoshopped or that they know it's "just fantasy" yet they still can't seem to seperate their perception of women from the fantasy.

 

It's threads like these that show me how different men and women are. Whenever topics are posted about men and their looks, so many women jump in ready to be encouraging and positive to guys and when threads come up about women's bodies, it seems like a lot of guys just want to rip into women or post ridiculous pictures of women that aren't the norm.

 

By the way ATrainofAngels, it's getting old that the only way you seem to know how to talk about women is through posting pictures of women that are clearly carefully selected images from your jerk-off folder. No one but you cares that much about who you find attractive. How many other men do you see posting pictures of women as often as you do? Not many. You are not on a male domianted board. You are on a board with an equal mix of men and women.

 

I honestly think these guys don't realise it isn't real.

 

Men are far more judgemental and hateful about women online. I think it stems from seeing women disrespected so much in the media and in porn.

 

yeah I really don't give a squat about the photos from the jerk-off folder either.

[Cracker Jack]

You mean these

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You know, that scene crossed my mind when I was writing that post, since breasts and sands, and...aha! Good catch.

[SarahRose]

That's his personal opinion. Or, more likely, he's just saying that to make his overweight clients feel better about themselves.

 

If you want to observe the "natural" female look, you need to go to more primitive societies where most people are subsistence farmers who live off the land (i.e. rural India or China). You will not find too many women who do not have visible ribs.

 

Overweight American women who have chunks of fat and skin hanging off their sides and covering heir ribcage are anything but natural looking. These women got that way because through lack of exercise and consumption of massive amounts of processed sugar, corn syrup and transfat-infused junk food.

 

of course there are no lazy gross men with flab and beer bellies hanging out

[SarahRose]

I don't think you will find a man who won't turn his head on the beach to a topless blond with a pair of perfect DD's, me included ... it's hardwired into us, it's a sign of fertility to us.

However, i would never allow my gf to 'upgrade' her breasts size from A/B.

Even if they were mosquito bites.

It's not a question of principle, i just like small breasts ... they are awesome to cup in your hands, they fit in your mouth easily, she can get away without wearing a bra, small breasts are awesome.

 

no it's just been brainwashed into you by the media and advertising.

[SarahRose]

See, and that makes me sad darkmoon because if that's true, then we are both getting stereotyped injusticely for what are bodies look like then who we are.

 

 

And the part you said that men expect you to have "porn-star" moves shows how warped men let themselves become regarding fantasy and women and their bodies. Yes, I know this is a reality a lot of guys here won't want to acknowledge but that's exactly what darkmmon's experience is telling us.

 

i can certainly tell the difference during sex between a man who looks at a lot of porn and one who doesn't.

 

the excessive porn users are boring and lazy in bed.

[Leopard]

I also ask you and other men to be fair. Be fair and understand that what you give attention to is going to be what women understand you like.

 

This is absolutely true. If men always go for women with large breasts, or give large breasts lots of attention, it's only natural for us to think that large breasts is what a guy wants.

 

But you shouldn't be so hard on the other guys DY. They will notice large breasts much like anyone would notice them. They are big and just out there. Hard to miss.

 

We can't blame men for looking. After all, it's just looking. You and I both know that we look at a guy who is tall or has incredible abs (or whatever else), but do we necessarily date him or make it a requirement because of this feature? No. It's just nice to look at.

 

Then again, I wouldn't mind if all men thought abs were what you need to get a girl

[Leopard]

i can certainly tell the difference during sex between a man who looks at a lot of porn and one who doesn't.

 

the excessive porn users are boring and lazy in bed.

 

Really?

 

My experience has been completely different. One of my exes loved porn, and he was a god in bed, always changing positions, trying new things, doing all these crazy things. I would have thought the opposite! I would think that the guys who don't watch porn are the ones whose creativity hasn't been sparked!

[Disenchantedly Yours]

ThaWholiganOf course it's in my own head, duh

 

I already said I'm a horndog. I admit that, and I've always been that way. I make no excuses for it, and I do my best to control it, but I am. I like women, and I'm sexual. I'm not obsessed, but I find it difficult not to look if I see a girl walking down the street who looks good, or has big breasts or bum or whatever. Sure, I can do it, and I have, but that doesn't make it any less harder for me.

 

I have never justified my actions by biology or anything like that. I don't understand why you would levy such an accusation at me, or why what I have said makes you or anyone insecure about their bodies.

 

But Wholigan, when you say, "I'm a horndog", aren't you justifying it on your biology? I'm not saying men shouldn't be attracted to women or that noticing a woman's is always bad. But you should try and understand what it's like sometimes being on the receiving end of it or watching your boyfriend or partner notice someone else. I don't know why you would find it "difficult" not to look though. You may not want to not look, but is it really that difficult?

 

 

 

Well it shouldn't be. Women should be fair and stop reading too much into everything we do if that's the case .

 

Men should be more careful about what informatoin they give through their actions. It looks like we are at an impase here.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

There ain't nothing wrong with noticing large breasts. I always do it. They simply stand-out to me. It has nothing to do with being obsessed with breasts. I ain't even a huge fan of large breasts to begin with.

 

It's like how most women usually notice a taller guy in a certain setting compared to their counterparts. Clearly this doesn't mean these women in particular are obsessed with tall men, it just means their height allows them to catch their eye much quicker. Same with breasts. If I notice large breasts, I'll glance then go on with what I was doing. It's not a big deal.

 

They stand out to you because that's where your head is at Cracker Jack. I am not saying that that's wrong or bad or anything. But you notice breasts because that's what you are paying attention to. Usually the first thing I notice about other people no matter their body type or skin color our their eyes. I'm not saying that makes me a better person. It doesn't. I'm just saying that I notice eyes because that's where my head is at.

[somedude81]

no it's just been brainwashed into you by the media and advertising.

Yup, it's only because of the media.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

I honestly think these guys don't realise it isn't real.

 

Men are far more judgemental and hateful about women online. I think it stems from seeing women disrespected so much in the media and in porn.

 

yeah I really don't give a squat about the photos from the jerk-off folder either.

 

I agree. How many threads do we see on LS that are about the male body and what women want it to be and how it should be this or that or women posting pictures of hot guys. Not nearly as many that crop up about the female body. We don't see as many derogatory ephunisms for the male body. How many men have talked about penis size? How many men want to be disparaged based on penis size or hear women make up derogatory names for guys with smalle penises? But this is okay to do to women..small breasts = "mosqetio bites" Big breats = "fun bags". Eithe rway you slice it it's really off putting. And then when you try to get guys to be truly open and understanding about this subject it ALWAYS ALWAYS comes down to, "I'm a guy! Of coures I notice this! I'm horny! It's okay! It's okay to tell women their breasts are mosqetio bites or funbags because i'm a guy and I like it!"

 

 

I have heard of studies done that said that after looking at porn, a man had more negative thigns to say about his own partner.

[Cracker Jack]

They stand out to you because that's where your head is at Cracker Jack. I am not saying that that's wrong or bad or anything. But you notice breasts because that's what you are paying attention to. Usually the first thing I notice about other people no matter their body type or skin color our their eyes. I'm not saying that makes me a better person. It doesn't. I'm just saying that I notice eyes because that's where my head is at.

 

Not really. I don't care for large breasts, so I'm not seeing how my head is in the breasts (just picturing that made me ) or anything like that. Simply put, visually they stand out to me and I take notice if they're exceptionally big. I don't pay attention to them nor make a big deal out of them.

 

But even so, you're not saying it's wrong to do that, so it's all good.

[SarahRose]

Really?

 

My experience has been completely different. One of my exes loved porn, and he was a god in bed, always changing positions, trying new things, doing all these crazy things. I would have thought the opposite! I would think that the guys who don't watch porn are the ones whose creativity hasn't been sparked!

 

how long were you together and why is he an ex?

[SarahRose]

I agree. How many threads do we see on LS that are about the male body and what women want it to be and how it should be this or that or women posting pictures of hot guys. Not nearly as many that crop up about the female body. We don't see as many derogatory ephunisms for the male body. How many men have talked about penis size? How many men want to be disparaged based on penis size or hear women make up derogatory names for guys with smalle penises? But this is okay to do to women..small breasts = "mosqetio bites" Big breats = "fun bags". Eithe rway you slice it it's really off putting. And then when you try to get guys to be truly open and understanding about this subject it ALWAYS ALWAYS comes down to, "I'm a guy! Of coures I notice this! I'm horny! It's okay! It's okay to tell women their breasts are mosqetio bites or funbags because i'm a guy and I like it!"

 

 

I have heard of studies done that said that after looking at porn, a man had more negative thigns to say about his own partner.

 

I am beginning to wonder if all this hate perceived from women is mostly in their imaginations?

 

I can imagine a group of girls might be nasty but it is far far more common for males to be rude to women than the other way around.

 

If I am out biking or walking, it is always a male who will shout vulgar things at me. It is never a woman. Why is that?

 

On the i have a problem threads posted by men, plenty of women try to help on clothing styles, haircuts, and so on. The men seem to help some too.

 

But if a woman posts a problem thread,then it is still usually the women helping but if it is a weight thread then both women and men get pretty nasty.

 

The issue is that we know the men are lying.

 

They like the porn star look. The do like the big fake breasts and cartoonish fake figures but they just lie and say they don't.

 

If all women started being as nasty and judgemental as these guys, I guarantee none of these guys would ever get laid.

 

They would just be make fun of, ignored, dismissed like they do to overweight women.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Not really. I don't care for large breasts, so I'm not seeing how my head is in the breasts (just picturing that made me ) or anything like that. Simply put, visually they stand out to me and I take notice if they're exceptionally big. I don't pay attention to them nor make a big deal out of them.

 

But even so, you're not saying it's wrong to do that, so it's all good.

 

 

No I don't think it's "wrong". But just because I don't think it's "wrong" doesn't mean I think it's a great way to be either. Looking at breasts isn't wrong. But it does say something about how men treat and view women. And I think it's important to acknowledge these things and not just let men get away with, "it's okay because I'm a man and horny!"

[ThaWholigan]

Define porn star look

[William]

Define porn star look

Nah, don't. I read 'porn' one too many times in this thread. Stop it right now.

[Cracker Jack]

No I don't think it's "wrong". But just because I don't think it's "wrong" doesn't mean I think it's a great way to be either. Looking at breasts isn't wrong. But it does say something about how men treat and view women. And I think it's important to acknowledge these things and not just let men get away with, "it's okay because I'm a man and horny!"

 

So, what do you propose as a solution for this? Men and women are sexual beings. Certain men will look at women's breasts, ass, hips, and a few other things. That's a normal thing to do for a straight healthy man.

 

Certain women will look at men with good height, broad shoulders, strong jawline, strong abs, etc. That's normal for a straight healthy woman as well. Basically, my point is both genders find certain physical features desirable in the opposite sex and they'll look at them. That's just life. Stuff like this didn't start overnight, nor will it end overnight. Yes, there are pervs who overdo it and it's annoying, but you gotta ignore them.

 

On another note, I hope my posts don't make me come off as some guy who doesn't like women with big breasts or anything. I have no issue with them.

[d'Arthez]

The issue is that we know the men are lying.

 

They like the porn star look. The do like the big fake breasts and cartoonish fake figures but they just lie and say they don't.

You must not forget your experiences are coloured by your identity.

 

If I started a thread detailing my physical flaws, I am sure women would say that height is but a number (where I live I am a tad on the shorter side) ... only for real life experiences to show me that height is anything but a number. Does that mean these women are lying? No. It means that for one reason or another they are inclined to behave in a certain way in real life, which, when they would reflect on it, is irrational to a large degree.

 

It is when real life experiences conflict with what one encounters online that it is tempting to think that whomever utters the comforting words online is lying. Or, related to that, that all women / men are the same, and that some are simply trying to be "nice".

 

People are different, and have different preferences. At the same time, we have to be able to accept that not everyone will like those preferences, and not everyone will fit the bill. Thankfully.

 

I refuse to go to the gym and waste precious time on getting a six pack. I don't define myself on the basis of some outdated concept of masculinity. This is the 21st century. Likewise, the notion that women have to adhere to a similarly outdated concept of femininity is equally absurd to me.

 

All people have their preferences. These are individual preferences. The trick is to find people with whom you are compatible. Women who desire of me to be some kind of Greek God will be disappointed. Likewise, I have no interest in women who display learned helplessness (which is part of the "feminine ideal" of yore). I don't think either these women or me should shed a tear over that.

 

Whether or not men looking at breasts says something about their character, or women looking at tall men says something about their character is for all intents and purposes irrelevant. Much more relevant is the question how much do they emotionally invest in such behaviors and preferences.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

So, what do you propose as a solution for this? Men and women are sexual beings. Certain men will look at women's breasts, ass, hips, and a few other things. That's a normal thing to do for a straight healthy man.

 

Certain women will look at men with good height, broad shoulders, strong jawline, strong abs, etc. That's normal for a straight healthy woman as well. Basically, my point is both genders find certain physical features desirable in the opposite sex and they'll look at them. That's just life. Stuff like this didn't start overnight, nor will it end overnight. Yes, there are pervs who overdo it and it's annoying, but you gotta ignore them.

 

On another note, I hope my posts don't make me come off as some guy who doesn't like women with big breasts or anything. I have no issue with them.

 

I just want men to be more aware of how they treat and view women then to just write it off as okay/healthy/right behavior. Yes, noticing other people CAN be sexually healthy. But it doesn't mean it's mentally or emotionally healthy for that other person. I am not saying you should never again look at someone you find attractive. I would just like to see men have some self awareness and pay attention to how they look at women and how often they engage in it. That's all. I'm not asking men to stop looking all the time. Just be aware of what they are doing and not just justify everyting to being a guy.

[SarahRose]

Nah, don't. I read 'porn' one too many times in this thread. Stop it right now.

 

Can we say mammary glands that are unclothed as portrayed in movies of an adult nature?

[Cracker Jack]

I just want men to be more aware of how they treat and view women then to just write it off as okay/healthy/right behavior. Yes, noticing other people CAN be sexually healthy. But it doesn't mean it's mentally or emotionally healthy for that other person. I am not saying you should never again look at someone you find attractive. I would just like to see men have some self awareness and pay attention to how they look at women and how often they engage in it. That's all. I'm not asking men to stop looking all the time. Just be aware of what they are doing and not just justify everyting to being a guy.

 

Well, personally, I never went along with the "I do this because I'm a man, cot damn it!" stance. I know a few guys who say they cheat because it's apart of their "biology", and they can't help it. I just think stuff like that sounds downright stupid.

 

I honestly can't speak for men, only myself. At the end of the day, there's going to be guys who'll only want to meet a woman and get to know her because she has big melons, or big lips, etc. Me? What would make me enthusiastic to meeting a woman is a warm personality, and cute feet of course:cool:.

 

I look at women as women, and never (even in my bitter moments) have looked at them as anything aside from that, or ever thought their assets is what defined them. I think about sex a lot, but I also think about many other things, too. I love and respect women. That's pretty much how it is for me.

[Feelsgoodman]

Feelsgoodman, you are actually the one man on this board that I actually think holds women in a lot of contempt. Women do like nice guys. They just don't like dormats who agree with everything they say or who make her make all the choices in his desire to overly please her.

That's what you say. My experience suggests otherwise. Women generally do not like nice guys (and I'm talking genuinely nice guys, not stereotypical "nice guys" who act nice trying to get laid). Women overwhelmingly prefer men who are aggressive, dominant, competitive and tough. These are characteristics of an alpha male, not those of a nice guy (and no, you can't be both).