somedude81 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Watching Dr. Phil right now. Episode is about "sugar babies," women of various ages who basically being paid girlfriends. From some of these women it's a business to them. Dr. Phil just asked them if they were hookers, and they all laughed and said they weren't One girl said she sells her hotness Edited June 12, 2012 by somedude81
casey1989 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 okay i didnt say you are less of a victim, i said its just anthor crime. like every other victim. there are risks to everything some more, some less, so you are never going to live in world where there are no risks. what exactly is the problem that our attitude is perpetuating? no one is validating any form of violence, violence is never okay but prostitutes are not going to get any special sympathy for being victims of violence. there many victims of violence men, women, children, its not just a prostitutes at risk, i know someone who got attacked because of his race. and those people believed it was okay to attack someone because of his colour. your not asking for sympathy? but you sure are over victimizing prostitutes. just like you are aware of the risks, im sure you were aware that your profession carries certain social stigmas, many different opinions and attitudes towards it, and you need accept that there are people who dont really like what you do or dont really have any respect or care for it, its doesnt mean they wish you death. you need to calm down. if your happy with what you do, why do care what anyone thinks of your profession, just go on with your life. and do as you wish! but dont expect anytime soon (generally) society to change its take on what you do, and everything that is attached to it, and there real victims in the sex industry, weather your protect world acknowledges it or not. some people support what you do and some people dont, its a cause to some that dedicate a life time to working on making it better, and some dont really give two sh*ts. your nothing special, the world isnt revolving around prostitution, its just sometimes debated, and everyone have their take on it like everything else in life. The attitude that has been perpetuated by the OP is that I deserve everything I get because I am a prostitute. That is my problem. Violence is never ok against anyone. I'm not asking for prostitues to be given special treatment but to be treated like human beings. You are missing alot of the context of this because you haven't read the threads/ posts by the OP. I don't care what people think- but I wanted to give my opinions based on my experience, and don't see why I was made to justify my personal life choices. I wanted to provide honest information about the industry and all that it encompasses, not just theoretical snippets. But instead I've not been able to give helpful information or opinions because of all this you sleep with woman's husbands rubbish... if it wasn't for you men would never cheat etc. If I cared what people think I'd sure be in the wrong job- not only do I have this stigma, clients are exceedingly judgemental and I have to deal with alot of men who get off on wasting my time or putting me down. Not to mention the constant stream of people that try and take advantage of you in a myriad of different ways. As for people not accepting what I do, it's just silly to think that I don't understand that its an element of my job! Hence why my pictures are blurred etc. It's a shame that all of this has happened- because I have useful information about the sex industry which can help to make people more aware of the issues faced by girls/ and clients.
casey1989 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Watching Dr. Phil right now. Episode is about "sugar babies," women of various ages who basically being paid girlfriends. From some of these women it's a business to them. Dr. Phil just asked them if they were hookers, and they all laughed and said they weren't One girl said she sells her hotness Yeah I heard this is more popular in the states because it's not illegal as such. To me I would never do it because it seems like too much pandering to one man's needs, and I don't have time to baby sit a man's emotions I feel like it would be too much of an imposition on my 'real life'. Much easier for me to meet a client for a specific time & price and then walk away without having to talk to them again until they want to have another session
somedude81 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I don't know what's more fu*ked up with the world. The fact that women can sell sex or simply their time to a man, or that men will actually pay for it. It's disgusting how hard it is for some men to get into a relationship or have sex and it's so easy for women, that they can actually make money selling it.
casey1989 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I don't know what's more fu*ked up with the world. The fact that women can sell sex or simply their time to a man, or that men will actually pay for it. It's disgusting how hard it is for some men to get into a relationship or have sex and it's so easy for women, that they can actually make money selling it. I think a lot of it is to do with the whole sexualisation for women thing. Men are brought up from a young age to think about women physically, whereas little girls dream about their wedding day. Girls are encouraged to look the part for men 'to get a husband and pop out babies' as society tells us we should all do and want to do. Men are encouraged to view women as sex objects, something that is a commodity, therefore buying it just becomes a part of a process. It's so easy because men are ingrained to think about sex as something as sold, and women are encouraged to use it as something to manipulate men with. It's no one's fault it's just the society we live in.
irin Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 The attitude that has been perpetuated by the OP is that I deserve everything I get because I am a prostitute. That is my problem. Violence is never ok against anyone. I'm not asking for prostitues to be given special treatment but to be treated like human beings. You are missing alot of the context of this because you haven't read the threads/ posts by the OP. okay its seems as though you have serious(excuse my street lang) beef with the OP. what exactly are you getting, that people are saying you deserve? I don't care what people think- but I wanted to give my opinions based on my experience, and don't see why I was made to justify my personal life choices. I wanted to provide honest information about the industry and all that it encompasses, not just theoretical snippets. But instead I've not been able to give helpful information or opinions because of all this you sleep with woman's husbands rubbish... if it wasn't for you men would never cheat etc. why justify yourself? welcome to LOVESHACK darling everyone here has to justify them selves, your obviously new here so ill let you off this one. stay a while and youll know your not getting special treatment, its pretty common around here. If I cared what people think I'd sure be in the wrong job- not only do I have this stigma, clients are exceedingly judgemental and I have to deal with alot of men who get off on wasting my time or putting me down. Not to mention the constant stream of people that try and take advantage of you in a myriad of different ways. As for people not accepting what I do, it's just silly to think that I don't understand that its an element of my job! Hence why my pictures are blurred etc. again you are asking for sympathy, your posts completely contradict each other. i read some of your other ones, i thought you were this high class hooker, well protected and loved her pleasurable job, and now your complaining and about your very "normal" clients who judge you and try to take advantage of you, so the world of "legal prostitution isnt all rainbows after all". It's a shame that all of this has happened- because I have useful information about the sex industry which can help to make people more aware of the issues faced by girls/ and clients. darling this isnt the meeting of hookers forum. your useful information can only be used to debate(more like fight) your points here. this isnt some hooker support group. there are forums that are made for escorts, maybe your advice would be appreciated there. as for issues with the op, i have read a lot of her posts before, she seems like a fairly nice poster, i would very much appreciate if you could show me that quote where she says that "YOU SHOULD BE KILLED" now i usually dont spend much time thinking about hookers, i dont have any strong opinions on them, and have no respect for them, i dont really give a cr*p. but would never say its okay to anyone to kill, beat, rape anyone. i just pick and choose who i worry and sympathize for in the world.
Anela Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I don't know what's more fu*ked up with the world. The fact that women can sell sex or simply their time to a man, or that men will actually pay for it. It's disgusting how hard it is for some men to get into a relationship or have sex and it's so easy for women, that they can actually make money selling it. I think it's disgusting that still, in this day and age, the easiest way for a woman to make good money, is to take her clothes off whether it be stripping or having sex with strangers. Being reduced to breasts and a vagina, and what she can provide sexually.
mario_C Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Not the same logic. As Casey herself has stated, she doesn't care if he's married or not so there's no lying involved beyond the belief that his married status is irrelevant, as long as she paid. That said, if the women on the dating site knew or felt his marital status was irrelevant to her "job" of dating, then yes, she's an accessory to his infidelity. Go ask all the OWs and OMs in the OW/OM subforum if they knew. Some would say the married person lied to begin with but as at the point they're posting in the LS subforum, the OWs/OMs knew their partner was married and remained in the affair. This makes them all accessories, hence can be sued through tort, using the "alienation of affection" clause, as defined by the state of North Carolina and a few others.Re the bold: the concern is the partner of the cheat, not the women he cheats with. The single women the married man pursues are in the dark about the situation, and the prostitute makes it her business to not know. I'm just asking why one is better or worse. As for the laws in North Carolina, I think we all know how progressive they are on laws affecting women and relationships. Throw women who take cheating lovers in jail, right next to women who choose to terminate their pregnancy and lesbians! Yeah, that'll show 'em!
casey1989 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 okay its seems as though you have serious(excuse my street lang) beef with the OP. what exactly are you getting, that people are saying you deserve? why justify yourself? welcome to LOVESHACK darling everyone here has to justify them selves, your obviously new here so ill let you off this one. stay a while and youll know your not getting special treatment, its pretty common around here. again you are asking for sympathy, your posts completely contradict each other. i read some of your other ones, i thought you were this high class hooker, well protected and loved her pleasurable job, and now your complaining and about your very "normal" clients who judge you and try to take advantage of you, so the world of "legal prostitution isnt all rainbows after all". darling this isnt the meeting of hookers forum. your useful information can only be used to debate(more like fight) your points here. this isnt some hooker support group. there are forums that are made for escorts, maybe your advice would be appreciated there. as for issues with the op, i have read a lot of her posts before, she seems like a fairly nice poster, i would very much appreciate if you could show me that quote where she says that "YOU SHOULD BE KILLED" now i usually dont spend much time thinking about hookers, i dont have any strong opinions on them, and have no respect for them, i dont really give a cr*p. but would never say its okay to anyone to kill, beat, rape anyone. i just pick and choose who i worry and sympathize for in the world. I am not going to use the OP's posts, if you want to find them you can find them. She/ He never said I should be killed, but you'll have to look yourself. Again I didn't ask for sympathy, yes if you had read the posts you can see that I clearly highlighted both the negatives and positives of the job. I am explaining to you why I am thick skinned and my confusion as to why you think I seek approval of others. Again had you taken the time to read my posts you would know that I do spend time helping other girls. But I wanted to give an honest insight into the real dealings into the sex industry as I already said. Oh and I won't go into this again, I've already spoken about the majority of these things in the other thread.
threebyfate Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Re the bold: the concern is the partner of the cheat, not the women he cheats with. The single women the married man pursues are in the dark about the situation, and the prostitute makes it her business to not know. I'm just asking why one is better or worse.Umm...deliberate ignorance isn't an acceptable defense anywhere that I'm aware of. As for the laws in North Carolina, I think we all know how progressive they are on laws affecting women and relationships. Throw women who take cheating lovers in jail, right next to women who choose to terminate their pregnancy and lesbians! Yeah, that'll show 'em!Abortions are legal in North Carolina up to 20 weeks. Post 20 weeks, there needs to be substantial risk to the mother, prior to the act being a legal abortion vs. illegal abortion. Most states have the same or similar laws regarding abortion. As far as throwing women in jail for taking cheating lovers, no. Hookers consent to sex for money. They're involved in an illegal act since prostitution is illegal in North Carolina. Couldn't be bothered to look up your reference to lesbianism. To the best of my knowledge, it's not illegal in North Carolina.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 If it weren't for enablers that have no respect for marriage or concern for the consequences of banging a MM, there would be no infidelity. You do not seem to have an understanding of the concept of "enabling." I think that your angle is that sex needs to exist ONLY in the province of a "one man one woman" marriage. Sex happening in any context other than that "enables" married men to cheat, right? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and it's fine with me that you are against prostitution and that you think all prostitutes are "bad people" (though I do find it appalling that you claim to "work with" abused people including some that are prostitutes - that's like hearing that a member of the KKK is working for the NAACP). But your insistence upon placing any of the responsibility for infidelity whatsoever on the existence of prostitution kind of makes everything you say seem to be warped in a major way. Just say that nobody should be legally allowed to have sexual relations until / unless they are married, and then ONLY with the person they married. That way, you can remove all the potential "enablers" and enforce fidelity. Sound good? 1
Els Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I don't know what's more fu*ked up with the world. The fact that women can sell sex or simply their time to a man, or that men will actually pay for it. It's disgusting how hard it is for some men to get into a relationship or have sex and it's so easy for women, that they can actually make money selling it. Really? You'd have sex with a 60-year-old obese woman for free? How about 10 60-year-old obese women a day? That's a bit of an exaggeration, but the point remains that many customers of prostitutes are not attractive to the prostitutes. That's why it's a business. Consensual sex and sex for a living is the difference between, say, cybergaming for fun and cybergaming for a living. When you game for fun you have full say over where, how, when, with whom, how long, etc. When you game for a living it's a whole different story - you often have to practice even when you don't feel like it, in team games you may not like your teammates but have to stick with them due to sponsorship/other issues, etc. In other words, it isn't all fun and games anymore. That isn't to say that there aren't any prostitutes who enjoy their jobs, but there are also many for whom it is a job like any other, with benefits and drawbacks. They have the right to turn down men who are unwilling to follow the rules (re: condoms and personal limits, etc) and such, but if they were to turn down every single man who doesn't interest them sexually, most of them would not have a business at all. The majority of men who seek such services out are not usually attractive.
somedude81 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Yeah, I know that prostitutes sleep with men they may not consider attractive. Though I'm not sure how that relates to my post you quoted.
Els Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 The fact that prostitutes are not really being paid to 'have sex', they are being paid to 'have sex even with people whom they are not attracted to'. You are comparing your idea of a man having sex (with a woman he finds attractive), to the idea of a female prostitute having sex (with men she does not find attractive). Those two are apples to oranges.
somedude81 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 The fact that prostitutes are not really being paid to 'have sex', they are being paid to 'have sex even with people whom they are not attracted to'. You are comparing your idea of a man having sex (with a woman he finds attractive), to the idea of a female prostitute having sex (with men she does not find attractive). Those two are apples to oranges. Ideally, both men and women would only like to have sex with people they are attracted to. Prostitutes are paid to 'have sex.' Whether they are attracted to the man or not is irrelevant. Hell, I'm sure that prostitutes have sex for free with men they are attracted to. I'm also positive that prostitutes have refused clients based on how the man looked. Many men have sex with whomever is willing, regardless if he is attracted to her or not. It's hard enough to get sex as it is already, only limiting it to people one finds attractive can be too exclusionary. BTW, none of these isues are what I was talking about when I made my post. The only thing I was talking about is that it is screwed up that women can actually sell sex. Sex should not be so hard to get that one actually has to pay money for it.
Els Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Ideally, both men and women would only like to have sex with people they are attracted to. Prostitutes are paid to 'have sex.' Whether they are attracted to the man or not is irrelevant. Hell, I'm sure that prostitutes have sex for free with men they are attracted to. I'm also positive that prostitutes have refused clients based on how the man looked. Many men have sex with whomever is willing, regardless if he is attracted to her or not. It's hard enough to get sex as it is already, only limiting it to people one finds attractive can be too exclusionary. BTW, none of these isues are what I was talking about when I made my post. The only thing I was talking about is that it is screwed up that women can actually sell sex. Sex should not be so hard to get that one actually has to pay money for it. Sex with people you are attracted to is hard to get. There are actually quite a few men who make good money out of selling sex, as hard as it is to believe. There is a whole 'F/M sex tourism' thing going on where women (usually middle-aged or older and with both money and a tyre to spare) go to Asian countries to be pampered and have sex with good-looking young men there. So the market exists. The hypothesis is that cultural taboo is usually too great for the women to feel comfortable buying sex where they live and work, so they do it as 'vacation flings'. There ARE successful gigolos in America as well, I've heard, so the business is beginning to grow both ways and men actually 'can' sell sex as well.
somedude81 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Sex with people you are attracted to is hard to get. There are actually quite a few men who make good money out of selling sex, as hard as it is to believe. There is a whole 'F/M sex tourism' thing going on where women (usually middle-aged or older and with both money and a tyre to spare) go to Asian countries to be pampered and have sex with good-looking young men there. So the market exists. The hypothesis is that cultural taboo is usually too great for the women to feel comfortable buying sex where they live and work, so they do it as 'vacation flings'. There ARE successful gigolos in America as well, I've heard, so the business is beginning to grow both ways and men actually 'can' sell sex as well. Yeah some men can sell sex. But the number of men that can do it is far fewer than the number of women that can. Another issue is the type of clients they get. Odds are that female hookers get all types of men, from the very good looking to the not so good looking, young and old etc. A man who sells sex is just going to get middle aged or older. Basically speaking, sex is much easier for a woman to get, so if a woman has to pay to get laid, then she's pretty far down the food chain.
d'Arthez Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Sex should not be so hard to get that one actually has to pay money for it. This is complete nonsense. Sex is not that hard to get if you make the effort to skill yourself (growing as a person, actually bother with human interaction, etc.. You have received the advice before, but since you seem to refuse to make more effort than sitting in a chair and waiting for your angel to fall from the heavens. You have never really acted on the advice you get as far as I can tell). If I wanted to have sex with a woman, it would not cost me more than a few bucks and some time and effort to get there. I am an introverted guy, who loathes large gatherings of people. So if you are a bit more outgoing than I am it is even easier. I desire no such thing. To me sex is an expression of love, not the all-consuming goal. And that has been the case since I was a teenager, so naturally my number is on the low side. Am I bothered by that? No. Women who have a problem with my number would be completely unsuitable to me, since they would not have the foggiest clue of who I am. That immediately makes such women non-attractive. Would I go to a prostitute or use the services of an escort girl? No. To me the physical act of sex is pretty meaningless, unless I am emotionally invested in the person I'd be having sex with. To me, sex is not so much about what I receive, but what I give. If what I give is reduced to money, I am not giving anything meaningful. Getting involved with an attractive woman is a completely different thing, and that requires much more work than a casual hookup. Sadly, most people have a very poor understanding of what actually makes a man or woman attractive, even to them.
123321 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 though I do find it appalling that you claim to "work with" abused people including some that are prostitutes - that's like hearing that a member of the KKK is working for the NAACP Almost sig worthy on that one, well done. There are actually quite a few men who make good money out of selling sex, as hard as it is to believe. There is a whole 'F/M sex tourism' thing going on where women (usually middle-aged or older and with both money and a tyre to spare) go to Asian countries... It probably happens in Asia too but the places famous for it are typically in South America, not Asia as much. It's where Stella got her groove back after all. Brazil and the Caribbean are top destinations for North America.
zengirl Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Abortions are legal in North Carolina up to 20 weeks. Post 20 weeks, there needs to be substantial risk to the mother, prior to the act being a legal abortion vs. illegal abortion. Most states have the same or similar laws regarding abortion. Only because of Roe v. Wade. If the SC ever reversed that, NC would probably put limitations on abortions in a hot minute. NC also had the ultrasound viewing controversy with abortions recently, though it was smacked down by a federal judge. They definitely attempt to put legal restraints on abortion that would harass women wherever they can. They cannot outlaw abortion, by federal law. The bulk of the harmful bill that ultrasound rule came from was upheld, which places a lot of restrictions, guilt trips, etc, on women seeking abortions. Couldn't be bothered to look up your reference to lesbianism. To the best of my knowledge, it's not illegal in North Carolina. NC just passed one of the most backwards, disgusting, homophobic laws against not only gay marriages but domestic partnerships. I believe that was the reference. If they could find a way to outlaw homosexuality, I imagine they would. I've lived in NC -- beautiful state, but a lot of it is filled with bigots. 1
threebyfate Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Only because of Roe v. Wade. If the SC ever reversed that, NC would probably put limitations on abortions in a hot minute. NC also had the ultrasound viewing controversy with abortions recently, though it was smacked down by a federal judge. They definitely attempt to put legal restraints on abortion that would harass women wherever they can. They cannot outlaw abortion, by federal law. The bulk of the harmful bill that ultrasound rule came from was upheld, which places a lot of restrictions, guilt trips, etc, on women seeking abortions. NC just passed one of the most backwards, disgusting, homophobic laws against not only gay marriages but domestic partnerships. I believe that was the reference. If they could find a way to outlaw homosexuality, I imagine they would. I've lived in NC -- beautiful state, but a lot of it is filled with bigots.As North Carolina laws pertain to "alienation of affection", I find it highly entertaining and amusing, when another betrayed spouse is awarded millions from tort suits filed against affair partners. The balance of what you've stated is irrelevant to the issue of hookers and affair partners of any variety.
zengirl Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 As North Carolina laws pertain to "alienation of affection", I find it highly entertaining and amusing, when another betrayed spouse is awarded millions from tort suits filed against affair partners. The balance of what you've stated is irrelevant to the issue of hookers and affair partners of any variety. Oh, mostly true, and I didn't link the two. I was just clearing up the misconceptions you wrote based on another poster who did wherein you stated abortion was not illegal, without understanding the fact that it's legal because of a federal mandate the state cannot circumvent. I think the alienation of affection clause is also ignorant and religiously-motivated, as the others are, to prevent a religious sin: infidelity. So, that bothers me. Too many laws in the South are bourne of the theocracy. But I wouldn't say it's linked to bigotry, except through that theocratic mindset. As too hooking, I wouldn't say that clause is specifically linked to hooking anyway.
threebyfate Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Oh, mostly true, and I didn't link the two. I was just clearing up the misconceptions you wrote based on another poster who did. I think the alienation of affection clause is also ignorant and religiously-motivated, as the others are, to prevent a religious sin: infidelity. So, that bothers me. Too many laws in the South are bourne of the theocracy. But I wouldn't say it's linked to bigotry, except through that theocratic mindset.There were no misconceptions presented in my post. Only your perception of such. If you read my post without bias, facts were stated. As too hooking, I wouldn't say that clause is specifically linked to hooking anyway.Depends on if the married men were regular customers of the hooker. It's also illegal to hook in North Carolina. Double jeopardy.
Els Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) It probably happens in Asia too but the places famous for it are typically in South America, not Asia as much. It's where Stella got her groove back after all. Brazil and the Caribbean are top destinations for North America. Fair point, this sounds likely. Asia is the top destination for female sex tourists from the UK and Aussie/NZ, but it would make sense that Brazil and the Caribbean are more popular to Americans, simply by law of proximity. Yeah some men can sell sex. But the number of men that can do it is far fewer than the number of women that can. Another issue is the type of clients they get. Odds are that female hookers get all types of men, from the very good looking to the not so good looking, young and old etc. A man who sells sex is just going to get middle aged or older. Basically speaking, sex is much easier for a woman to get, so if a woman has to pay to get laid, then she's pretty far down the food chain. It isn't necessarily about appearance, SD. This is what I don't understand about you and a few other male posters here; you have your own personal laws of attraction and you think it should apply to everyone. But they don't. I don't think many female hookers will say that they get sexual pleasure from their job - a few may, but then again I'm sure a few male gigolos do as well. Benefits quoted for the job usually involve flexible hours that allow pursuit of a second career, good treatment and high pay, etc. If a woman has sex with a man she's not attracted to who just pumps and dumps, it doesn't matter if he's a buff 6-foot-tall 20 year old football player, it isn't necessarily any 'better' than having sex with a 60-year-old obese person. She isn't attracted and she isn't being satisfied in any way, emotional or sexual, so it is definitely something she should be paid for, else why should she do it? Having sex and being 'used' (and I mean this word in a purely pragmatic sense, in the same way that repairmen are used for their services) for sex are two completely different things. That being said, if we are to talk solely about appearance, I have read about quite a few male escorts whose clientele are largely professional young or semi-young (below 40) women. They tend to offer services beyond what you would imagine to be the norm, though, from romantic dining and accompaniment to social functions, to professional domination or submission. Professional dominants, in fact, are pretty highly in demand in certain communities, and many of those men are not really good looking, they bank on skills, reputation and experience. I would venture to say that the reason fewer male prostitutes exist is simply because of social taboo about women seeking prostitutes - as you mentioned, you immediately think that a woman who seeks them out is likely to be 'bottom of the barrel'. Perhaps in a few generations' time this will equilibrize, as it is already beginning to. This is complete nonsense. Sex is not that hard to get if you make the effort to skill yourself (growing as a person' date=' actually bother with human interaction, etc.. You have received the advice before, but since you seem to refuse to make more effort than sitting in a chair and waiting for your angel to fall from the heavens. You have never really acted on the advice you get as far as I can tell).[/quote'] Well, difficulty is relative. I think more than what you described is what some people consider 'hard'. Edited June 12, 2012 by Elswyth
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Originally Posted by somedude81 Sex should not be so hard to get that one actually has to pay money for it. Actually, since we're talking about "shoulds," I think that sex "should not" be thought of as something that you "get," like an entitlement or a thing. But, since it is, specifically to you, the fact that you CAN go buy it makes it not hard to get at all. Is a pack of cigarettes or a soda "hard to get"? Stuff that's for sale is easy to get. The money? That might be a different story. Also, plenty of men who use the services of prostitutes aren't doing so because sex is "hard to get" for them. There are many other reasons for it.
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